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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 12:16:10 PM   
kdsub


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Nope 500 or so million for you... 300 million for us... face it you guys are cheapskates...but better football players. Better hope it doesn't get popular here or we will win all the time.

Butch


Turns out Butch that you have something like 6.5 times the population of England and have bought something like twice the number of tickets England have.

But....credit where it's due.....can't knock the Yanks for showing an interest. And you're right....you have the resources to plough into it....and if you ever did take it seriously you would be up there by virtue off being such a big country.




Yes there is no skill level inherent to a nationality except perhaps in the quality of training. Those nations with the largest populations and the organization to recognize and develop the raw talent should have the best teams on average over time.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 12:20:46 PM   
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Re Bee hive - woowoozelas (sp), the south africans seem to like blowing.


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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 12:27:41 PM   
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I went with Italy.


Me too. But then, everything I know about soccer, I know from Italians. I'll be walking through little Italy in a bit. Between FIFA and the Montreal F1 Grand Prix here this weekend, it's a little crazy.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 3:57:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		The USA played okay in tonight 1-1 draw with England. Our keeper let in a soft goal which I could have saved, which is saying something.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 4:59:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh come on...you got your asses handed to you on a platter...to hear you all before the game it was to be a mismatch.

Hell only 10 shots on both goals the whole game and 6 were from the US… You were outplayed and over confident…just better coaching on our side not better talent.

If you are real nice we could loan you our goalie...or hell for a few bucks I could step in and do a better job.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 5:15:14 PM   
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The trouble us with any professional sport in the UK is what we have to represent our country is people who are not hungry enough, I mean, they get paid shit loads and that is it, it is a money game. Now this is where I understand the US will win through, as despite what your players get paid, you have an allegiance to your country which exceeds any wage taken. Many on Britain when they get to big money forget their allegiances.

I despite my dislike for the game watched the last twenty minutes of the match down the pub, and my impressions were neither side were really trying, this could be because the US team with what years of experience came up against a country with a century of experience, but with the latter and their history, it showed the latter were perhaps resting on their laurels, for it was evident to me despite what experience, they could'nt really give a toss, which brings me back to the fact that money is the name of the game and well paid people in the UK could'nt give a shit, Queen and country is only something the captive armed forces fight for.



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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 5:37:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't despair The UK is a better team and will go further in the Cup than the US... you just took us too lightly. It seemed to me we were just trying not to loss rather than to win.

Our men’s program is 10 years away with a lack of desire in this country to get better...For some reason the women however are doing much better.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 5:54:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I am not bothered as I have already formed my own view of popular sport in the UK, and so am cynical in regards to, but tonight a sports fan knowing my dislike for the game noticed I saw the end and later asked me what I thought. My answer was firstly the players are not hungry enough due to their high wage win or lose and secondly because football now seems far slower than I remember when I for some unknown reason last took an interest in the world cup, somewhere around 1991/92. The sportsfan who asked me on hearing what I said about them not being hungry enough conferred with his pal and I heard the words, told you the reason they didn't try, which leaves me with the understanding that fans might also understand when big money enters the game, the players do what is needed to secure their employment and nothing more. Queen and country is largely dead in the UK.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:00:18 PM   
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Oh come on...you got your asses handed to you on a platter...


I think that's an optomisitc (from your POV) impression of a game you only drew thanks to fluke goalie error.

I think it all went quite well considering. It's the considering that's worrysome, our defense looking leaky isn't surprising considering our Captain central defender was injured just before tournament, his replacement went off injured at half time, and we were using attacking rather than defensive full backs....but that it isn't surprising doesn't make it any better.

Main other problems were simply reminders that neither of our speedy wingers can shoot....and neither can one of our strikers. Reckon Heskey had a really good game doing what he does well very well, just.....he needs to score. I know he can score, he got plenty at club level. Set pieces have got to be good for his head I guess. We got forward so much though, don't think we'll have too much problem finding goals....

As for USA....I'd be fairly confident about getting through the group stage, did fairly well all round, well organised....I'd be worried about attacking though....if you had to choose Altidore as the best guy to take advantage of sluggish central defenders...that's a worry, cos he sucks...gonna have to find goals elsewhere.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:09:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nope can't get off that easy...goal tending is a part of the game...my only point is we at least belonged in the stadium and were not the walkover many in CM were proclaiming. I think you will agree neither team has much of a chance at the cup however.

Butch

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:21:35 PM   
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I stayed up to watch the Aussies give England a complete drubbing in the Rugby.

Yayayayyy Wallabies!


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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:27:27 PM   
frazzle


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Status: offline 		There is football happening??? where??? i must have missed it between the tennis and Formula 1

or is this another game we invented to just be useless at????

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:29:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, you guys haven't been walkovers for years now. Dunno who was proclaiming that.

As for the cup....the great thing about football is almost anything is possible. Before 2004 Greece had never won a single game in a competition, then they became European champions....their odds at the beginning were 150-1.
To win the cup, even after a draw, England are at 8-1, (roughly 4th favourites) USA 66-1. (roughly 12th favourites).


It's by far most likely that England won't win, but it's by far most likely every team won't win, yet someone's gonna.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:32:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's SOCCER stop calling it football.


The NFL.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 6:36:16 PM   
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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 7:00:09 PM   
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It's SOCCER stop calling it football.


The NFL.


It's only you lot that have a different version of football, which having observed your game, it beats me why you call it foot ball, as;

1. It's not a ball, unless you have a different understanding to what a ball is compared to the rest of the football world, in which case what do you call spherical objects.

2. It seems from observation the act of engaging the foot to the object you refer to as a ball is fairly rare in a game as you spend more time carrying the thing.

If you try to draw some sort of comparison with that other English inspired game of Rugby, notice that at no point do they attempt to call the game foot ball or even hand ball, it is simply Rugby, named after the public school where it was created.

But of your game of foot ? ball ?, what's with all the armour, scared or something ?


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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/12/2010 7:06:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought the origin was as below... maybe it should have been called kick the head.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/13/2010 4:25:46 AM   
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Yes, it was a soft goal England let in and something of a fluke in the general scheme of things.

but - that is to overlook something very important; that the USA played very well indeed, the best team ever to take the field for the US. England played very well too, and that the USA conceded only one of what could have been a handful of goals was down to the USA playing very well too. Not only that but the USA built so many good attacks and threatened the England goal so often that it could have gone either way.

Congrats USA - though I commented earlier that your team was not to be written off - this was a brilliant performance; welcome to a "world series" that really is.

Overall, a draw was the right result. Disappointing for me of course, but justified.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/13/2010 7:08:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think both the US and England have the disadvantage of a weak group. If either of them take away much positive from this and have the same views on beating the various other weak opponents in that group then they'll hit reality as soon as they get out of the group stage. It's no great warm up; a couple of the players from the US stood out for their great efforts but they had a very weak defence and England's failure to capitalise is the prime example of what always seems to change at the international level for us. What is it with this game of pass the parcel England seem to like playing, it's the most boring element of football. If you score and then become all defensive or have no aggression then you'll not be ahead for long, proven time and time again.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/13/2010 7:30:50 AM   
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It can't save anything.

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