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subtee -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:19:20 PM)

I've posted nothing but logic. Why do you have such an emotional investment? Why do you need her to answer to you?

She was asking for help and she got it. Why isn't that enough for you? Why do you have to have an answer? What does it mean to you?

Many folks have come here for help. And they've gotten it, in large part. When they've been given such good, great advice and have decided to humbly go on from there, what do you get out of continuing to harass her?




domiguy -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:32:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

The truth is you all love drama. She's not obligated to post here to tell us anything. Give it a rest. She's 18 and feeling out what life is really like, you all made mistakes at 18 too, stop pointing fingers.


Pfffft. At 18 I was a captain of industry.




domiguy -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:35:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

subtee:

While I understand where you are coming from, the OP has three threads on this one week old relationship, including one where she willingly shares all the " gory details ". Of course those were good gorey details. So, yeah, I don't think it is too much or trying to inflict trauma on her to ask for the upsot of the resolution.

I am personally hoping this 27 y/o man has the good sense and good character to tell her she needs to get an education and to not jump " full steam ahead " into something she knows little to nothing about. And that he continues to be there to support her. Since she is quite taken by this man, it may be best coming from him rather than her parents. I would have serious concerns if he was content to be a wedge between her and her family.


She could marry him...Just like that young gal did with that big fat old Gorean guy.

They didn't lose a daughter they gained a social security check.




LafayetteLady -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:35:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

I've posted nothing but logic. Why do you have such an emotional investment? Why do you need her to answer to you?

She was asking for help and she got it. Why isn't that enough for you? Why do you have to have an answer? What does it mean to you?

Many folks have come here for help. And they've gotten it, in large part. When they've been given such good, great advice and have decided to humbly go on from there, what do you get out of continuing to harass her?



Not surprisingly, you see it as harassment, emotional involvement and any other number of negatives.

However, if you were as open minded and logical you claim to be, you would see there is a lot more to it.

Many times, others have posted with REAL problems, and they have come here for advice, and gotten good, sensible advice from the "peanut gallery" (some of whom actually have a background in counseling and therapy). Sometimes they have come back months later with an "update" of how things turned out, good or bad. It isn't because anyone was "calling them out," trying to "berate them further," or find enjoyment from their suffering.

People like to hear those updates, especially the good ones (which goes against your view of reasoning) so that we can offer them congratulations, and some modicum of emotional support on dealing with what can sometimes be some pretty big fall out from the tough decisions that they made.

Perhaps if you find so many of us here to be such horrible people, you should avoid threads where we post against your beliefs. Because right now, your continual comments here are becoming more amusing than the childish tantrum of the OP.

It's true that the OP may never come back and update us with what happened (although based on previous posts, she is quite the attention seeker). But the reality is that the next time she posts with one of her childish issues, she isn't likely to get much advice.

Most people around here are more than happy to try to help. However, when someone shows that they are never going to listen to what is usually common sense, they make themselves the butt of the joke, not the people who answer. You might do well to learn that lesson.




missrairai -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:37:09 PM)

Now, my mother told me about this thread.

As the 18 year old daughter, I must say that I don't think you should be moving in with this guy.
I committed myself last week, but then again we have been together almost 2 years, and have known each other longer than that.
Yes, I still live at home with my mom. BUT I help with bills, I pay my own bills, and I am putting myself through college. I don't broadcast to my mom my husband and mine's lifestyle, but she is aware. What we do behind closed doors is our own business.

Really, you should thank your parents for what they do for you, and not think about giving all that up becuase some guy you have known for a week busts in. He'll prolly be gone in another week or two anyway.




happylittlepet -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:41:56 PM)

FR to no one in particular

a. the two profiles involved give a hint as to what is going on.

b. based on the three threads of the OP, and knowing how real life unfolded, will those who responded to the OP in her first thread, think about giving advice in a different way if this kind of scenario is presented to them in the future? Just curious.




girlygurl -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 8:55:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

I love your ass!


*wishes she could see yours* [;)]




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 9:18:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3




By your post count you're still a bit new here, three pages of bitching at someone to disclose something they may not want to isn't usual or really even appropriate. It's a public forum, people tell us what they choose and not more. Live with it.


Actually Subtee asked why people would like an answer, I have explained why I wished an answer as well as my point of view on someone claiming to want to be an adult but not deal with the consequences of adult actions and only have 3 posts on that before I let the topic go because I see no point in trying to argue with a wall.






heartcream -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 9:34:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


Not surprisingly, you see it as harassment, emotional involvement and any other number of negatives.

However, if you were as open minded and logical you claim to be, you would see there is a lot more to it.

Many times, others have posted with REAL problems, and they have come here for advice, and gotten good, sensible advice from the "peanut gallery" (some of whom actually have a background in counseling and therapy). Sometimes they have come back months later with an "update" of how things turned out, good or bad. It isn't because anyone was "calling them out," trying to "berate them further," or find enjoyment from their suffering.

People like to hear those updates, especially the good ones (which goes against your view of reasoning) so that we can offer them congratulations, and some modicum of emotional support on dealing with what can sometimes be some pretty big fall out from the tough decisions that they made.

Perhaps if you find so many of us here to be such horrible people, you should avoid threads where we post against your beliefs. Because right now, your continual comments here are becoming more amusing than the childish tantrum of the OP.

It's true that the OP may never come back and update us with what happened (although based on previous posts, she is quite the attention seeker). But the reality is that the next time she posts with one of her childish issues, she isn't likely to get much advice.

Most people around here are more than happy to try to help. However, when someone shows that they are never going to listen to what is usually common sense, they make themselves the butt of the joke, not the people who answer. You might do well to learn that lesson.


Well we all have our valid opinion. I like where subtee is coming from and I like that she stood up and said something. I wasnt following close enough to each and everyones input but I do have the opinion that some of the people in the realm of therapy and counseling can be some purty skeery folks so just cuz they is doesnt mean they necessarily is, gnome sayin?

I hope the chick gets the best help in her sitch eye ay.




ModTwentyOne -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/14/2010 9:50:22 PM)

Let's stick to the topic please. 




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 5:34:15 AM)

Are you guys fucking kidding me?

Are you really doing this?

Are you Cyber Coddling?

Are you Text Wiping this girls ass?

When the fuck did Collar Me become a place where any one of you give a fuck?

I mean so far the people who are dropping some serious LOVE on this individual have said some of the most vile shit this web site has ever seen.

Now some young dumb and full of cum walking poster girl for a chastity belt walks on and opens up her life to serious scrutiny on a public forum and you are trying to defend her? Are you fucking kidding me?

Lets be honest, she does not have to come back here and tell us anything but the legacy she left is that if you are 18 you are wired to be a moron and showing that she could not take the licks for her own stupidity does nothing but further the idea that YOUNG = RETARDED.

All those trying to sing Kumbya for this girl need to be explaining to her how if she really wants to show maturity or at very least Mental Capasity she should come here and tell the REAL STORY, you know how things work in the REAL world.

There is no Chateau
There is no Prince
There is no soft chains
There is no whip kisses

This is Life, not just a Fabio cover Bodice ripper novel that ends with the girl in rapture holding the chains at her breasts.

There is 23 more hours in the day and some of them are ugly.

Some of them are people saying, "No, I'm not going to let you move into my house after knowing you for a week when you don;t have a job and really have no desire to get one, no your slave like behavior is not worth me taking on a second job to support you, no what we have isn't strong enough to move this quickly this soon."

And if that isn't what happened, if what we said got through that thick skull (Cause god knows it never would have gotten thought mine at 18) maybe she needs to talk about actual responsibility and actually not being able to have a cake and eat it too.

but the last thing she needs, the last thing ANYONE in an adult lifestyle needs is someone wiping a scraped knee especially when it is stupidity that caused it.

My two bits and a lolly.

QSM




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 6:58:42 AM)

Obviously some people do give a fuck enough to respond with sincere rational posts, Just because they are not filled with ugly dramatic hateful words or cyber floggings does not mean they are trying to coddle nor wipe ass.




heartcream -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 7:33:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Are you guys fucking kidding me?

Are you really doing this?

Are you Cyber Coddling?

Are you Text Wiping this girls ass?

When the fuck did Collar Me become a place where any one of you give a fuck?

I mean so far the people who are dropping some serious LOVE on this individual have said some of the most vile shit this web site has ever seen.


Now some young dumb and full of cum walking poster girl for a chastity belt walks on and opens up her life to serious scrutiny on a public forum and you are trying to defend her? Are you fucking kidding me?

Lets be honest, she does not have to come back here and tell us anything but the legacy she left is that if you are 18 you are wired to be a moron and showing that she could not take the licks for her own stupidity does nothing but further the idea that YOUNG = RETARDED.

All those trying to sing Kumbya for this girl need to be explaining to her how if she really wants to show maturity or at very least Mental Capasity she should come here and tell the REAL STORY, you know how things work in the REAL world.

There is no Chateau
There is no Prince
There is no soft chains
There is no whip kisses

This is Life, not just a Fabio cover Bodice ripper novel that ends with the girl in rapture holding the chains at her breasts.

There is 23 more hours in the day and some of them are ugly.

Some of them are people saying, "No, I'm not going to let you move into my house after knowing you for a week when you don;t have a job and really have no desire to get one, no your slave like behavior is not worth me taking on a second job to support you, no what we have isn't strong enough to move this quickly this soon."

And if that isn't what happened, if what we said got through that thick skull (Cause god knows it never would have gotten thought mine at 18) maybe she needs to talk about actual responsibility and actually not being able to have a cake and eat it too.

but the last thing she needs, the last thing ANYONE in an adult lifestyle needs is someone wiping a scraped knee especially when it is stupidity that caused it.

My two bits and a lolly.

QSM



Oh there is a Prince alright and then MJ went and named a couple of his kids Prince too.

Seems to me plenty of caring individuals have and do frequent this here CM thingamajig. Seriously who are the vilest posters here? Your vile is my humor. Your common sense is my lack of consciousness.

How old are you anyway spouting that you cant have your cake and eat it too line of crap? Plenty of people have the cake and eat all of it all by themselves.




LadySilver0523 -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 8:30:02 AM)

*smiles to herself as she posts this* Ahem... Well, for all of you "older folks" that couldn't read my previous posts, I'll make sure from now on that I write in this dull and lifeless large black font, just for you. (By the way, there is such a thing as highlighting it to make it show up better for all of you... But um... Well, I supose that's besides the point.... ¬ _____ ¬ )
 
Now, to respond to all of you that were less than impressed with my advice. *laughs*
 
First of all, obviously, opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one. That does include ME! :D If you don't like it;
 
DON'T READ IT!
 
*smiles politely in a mocking manner*
 
Yes, I DO wholehartedly condone what you call, "lying" to her parents. Now I'm just debating wheather it's worth my time explaining WHY to those of you that pitched a fit about it. I'm debating wheather I really give a flying fuck what you think of my opinion. And while yes, I do have a sense of integrity and morality, ect. That doesn't mean that you have to live by the book every single second of every single day. That's MY view on it. If YOU all want to live that way; KUDOS to you! I don't put my nose in your personal buisness unless you want someones opinion here on the forums, so do me a favor and stay out of mine unless asked. Hope that's clear enough for all of you.
 
As for "maturity"... *grins* Hmmmm... Again, do I want to explain? No... Not really. You can say what you like about me and I usually don't care. The ONLY reason why I'm responding to this is because I find it rather amusing that so many had crap to say about what I posted.
 
Last thing to address before ending this post;
 
Age.
 
I don't remember who posted this comment but saying, "Age is just a number." is the philosopie (sp??) of PEDIFILES EVERYWHERE!? LOL That may be the case, (which, honestly, I've never heard that before, but hey. *shrugs*) but I am NOT a pedefile and I'm NOT into children and such nor do I condone such things. So... again, think whatever you want.
 
Point being;

SHE'S !18 NOT FUCKING 5!!!! GET A CLUE!
 
She's old enough to make her own discisions in life and doesn't need her 'mommy' and 'daddy' to hold her fucking hand! Get over it people! Shit.
 
As for ME needing to grow up... Well... *smiles* I'll leave it at that. ;)
 
Be blessed,
 
Silver
 
 




urineme -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 9:31:40 AM)

You've said all that needs to be said to evaluate this situation, YOU are 18, HE is 27, you've known him for a WEEK.  I hate to say it, but, drawing from retrospective, (That 20/20 hindsight thing) you don't even have a CLUE about the real YOU, let alone the real HIM. Your eagerness for "independance" (You leave your folks and become dependant on him?) and your glands, are clouding your judgement. Play as you will, but get that education and become self-sufficient in the world, that is the only sensible thing to do. If this means staying at home and getting that education, then just do it. A little job experience wouldn't hurt either.

William
(Who can look back and laugh wryly at the 18yo version of himself)




ModTwentyOne -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 9:37:06 AM)

Seriously?  Three and a half pages of arguing about how to respond, whether anyone should respond, why people are responding, what abbreviations mean, who is gorean, all occurring AFTER I asked to keep it on topic??





missrairai -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 10:04:22 AM)

I never lied to my mother, and I just turned 18.
Would I lie to my mother if she was the prude type?
Damn straight. Especially if she was letting me live in her house rent free, feeding me, paying my bills, AND putting my ass through college.
But alas, I am a lucky person, and my mom is on this site [truesub4u]

Somethings don't need to be shared.

Besides, why give up what you have for something we all know won't last?




truesub4u -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 10:10:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missrairai


Besides, why give up what you have for something we all know won't last?



Now wait a minute Rai... when I first mnt your now husband. My first thoughts was... he won't be around long. Almost two years later... yall got married... don't be to judgemental here. It may be the best thing that happpens to this young lady. One doesn't know till one tries... as I stated to you plenty of times




divi -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 10:12:25 AM)

Not sure about anyone .. I think its fucked up when mom/daughter chat on CM ..(IMHO )




missrairai -> RE: My parents do not approve, and might kick me out (6/15/2010 10:15:14 AM)

True, but then again, I wasn't trying to leave home and move in with him after just a week of knowing him to get away from you.
Yeah, we all have to learn from our mistakes, just as I have.




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