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Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 5:55:57 PM   
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Texas' Barton called deal with Obama a 'shakedown.'


What a great guy. I never would have guessed that he was a Republican from Texas.

Who'd a thunk it?

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:07:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes , don't you understand it is not American to expect them to pay for the mess they created.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:15:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		He's right. It was a shakedown. BP already has pledged to pay for any cleanup. It was grand standing by Obama.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:19:08 PM   
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He's right. It was a shakedown. BP already has pledged to pay for any cleanup. It was grand standing by Obama.


Hahahaha ....How much damage was done? You are such a puppet. You would let them walk like your fellow Republicans who have been bought and sold in dead sea critters and lost American wages.

Who says that 20 billion is even enough?

what if they got off easy? Can we go back and get more?

I am concerned.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:21:01 PM   
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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:21:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess you'll have to ask Obama those questions. He set it at 20 billion..

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:21:45 PM   
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He's right. It was a shakedown. BP already has pledged to pay for any cleanup. It was grand standing by Obama.


Wrong answer but thank you for playing.

The fund has nothing to do with the cleanup.  It is to pay the people who are suffering from the spill.  You know those pesky people who own resturants, hotels, and any other number of businesses or had jobs that depended on those businesses.  you know those pesky people some of whom are now drawing unemployment or watching their business go down the drain. 

BP has been rejecting many of those claims left and right.  Every time these people file they ask them for another piece of paper.

Now all they need to do is hand over the money and go about cleaning up the mess.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:29:45 PM   
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I guess you'll have to ask Obama those questions. He set it at 20 billion..


So now it might be too low? But..But..But...It was a shakedown.

I think someone shook you too hard when you were just a little baby conservative.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:34:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		What a pussy ... Just once I would like to see a politician with guts enough to say what they mean and stand by it…Republicans are the worse…they are forever saying something then apologizing for it.

I can understand his thinking…I don’t agree with him but damn if I thought it was a shake down I would say so and let the people decide if they want to re-elect me.

What kind of wishy-washy people do we have running our government?

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:35:46 PM   
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759828/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf

Texas' Barton called deal with Obama a 'shakedown.'


What a great guy. I never would have guessed that he was a Republican from Texas.

Who'd a thunk it?


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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:41:27 PM   
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What a pussy ... Just once I would like to see a politician with guts enough to say what they mean and stand by it…Republicans are the worse…they are forever saying something then apologizing for it.

I can understand his thinking…I don’t agree with him but damn if I thought it was a shake down I would say so and let the people decide if they want to re-elect me.

What kind of wishy-washy people do we have running our government?

Butch
Exactly, I am sick to death of politicians apologising for any vaguely controversial thing they say, I would love to see a pol stand up and say "Yup, I said it and I meant it"....


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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 6:45:05 PM   
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How much damage was done?


Sea creatures flee oil spill, gather near shore - Yahoo! News

GULF SHORES, Ala. – Dolphins and sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water off Florida beaches, like forest animals fleeing a fire. Mullets, crabs, rays and small fish congregate by the thousands off an Alabama pier. Birds covered in oil are crawling deep into marshes, never to be seen again.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100617/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_marine_life

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 7:07:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		By Repug standards, this guy has rock star creds:   Former Arco(=BP) executive,   has received the most oil and gas money of any House member in the last 20 years, and his biggest campaign contributor owns 1/4 of that well.  Plus he's irresistibly  illiterate  ( " your misconstrue...uction") and ignorant ( the ol "Chinese are drilling off our coast").

Rachel's good on this tonight .





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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 7:09:50 PM   
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How much damage was done?


Sea creatures flee oil spill, gather near shore - Yahoo! News

GULF SHORES, Ala. – Dolphins and sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water off Florida beaches, like forest animals fleeing a fire. Mullets, crabs, rays and small fish congregate by the thousands off an Alabama pier. Birds covered in oil are crawling deep into marshes, never to be seen again.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100617/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_marine_life



That is an absolutely horrible read.

Makes you think that BP might have to be dissolved to even begin to be able to pay for all of the damages that they are responsible for.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 7:15:39 PM   
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British Petroleum is not a US company.  They create a massive environmental disaster on US soil, by operating illegally and unsafely.  And then Barton whines when Obama tries a wimpy effort to hold them accountable.

When Muslims drove airplanes into the Twin Towers, it was viewed as an act of terrorism.  When BP kills eleven workers and destroys the Gulf ecosystem more effectively than Bin Laden hurt our economy, GOP Congressidiots fall over each other claiming that the US taxpayers should foot the bill.

We have no money for health care but we have plenty to pay for corporate malfeasance?


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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 9:14:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmm. NYT says BP's "Profit rose to $6.08 billion from $2.56 billion in the first quarter of last year."

Now let's see here. I don't imagine they report their worldwide profits do you ? Is this the total or just what they are paying taxes on in the US ? Only the US branch needs report to the US correct ? Stockholders in the US are holding stock in the US division, or am I mistaken ?

Regardless of the answer to that, which I don't know because I don't play the market, even if it is the total, $20 billion ain't shit. It is not going to begin to repair anything, and I mean people's livelyhoods and property values. And this is a shakedown ? That is so fucking ridiculous it amazes even me.

For the whole ticket, they better try more like $2 trillion. And I want to know who let them do it, how much they got bribed to let them do it and how they would like some lead in the head. In many places you can't even have a community gathering place in certain areas despite the fact you supposedly own the place. In some places they won't even let you have a bonfire. And they allow this ?

And now I suppose all these think tanks are working on stopping the leak, and in all their glory what have they come up with ? Maybe better ideas would come from someone's kitchen table or at a bar. They deserve what they have ? And I'm a Communist for thinking so ? Bullshit.

The major problem with government is they handle too many small things, big things like this are their job. Either they don't know their job or they're unwilling to do it. Can the fucking lot of them. What's more throw everything the BP owns in this country into the filth they made in the gulf. Find every yacht, and everything their officers own on US soil or water and sink it all there as well. Then let them sue to get their money back, with jury trials of course. See just how good their PR department is then.

And that's just the beginning.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 9:33:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		The news reported that Barton has received more than 1.5 million from the oil industry in his twenty years of service in the house....The most of any member.

They all take the money. If we cannot get rid of these lobbyists our politicians will never work for the people.

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/17/2010 9:39:50 PM   
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Florida GOP Congressman Wants Joe Barton Destroyed

Here is the corporate troll and traitor Joe Barton (R-Texas) apologizing to BP for the terrible inconvenience America has caused BP, and also promising to move back to communist-land because he hates America so much. Now a Republican congressman from Florida wants Barton kicked off the energy committee for being such a dildo.
Rep. Jeff Miller (R-Florida) represents Pensacola, which will soon be completely covered in BP gunk and death. Here’s his statement:
“I condemn Mr. Barton’s statement. Mr. Barton’s remarks are out of touch with this tragedy and I feel his comments call into question his judgment and ability to serve in a leadership on the Energy and Commerce Committee. He should step down as ranking member of the Committee.”
When will Joe Barton be chained up and drowned in a vat of Black Oil with Tony Hayward? [The Hill]






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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/18/2010 5:19:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wrong again, they just like Exxon with the spill up in Alaska are only worried about their profits and paying as little as possible.

The 20 billion is not a limit either, unlike Exxon who challenged in court the level of their fine and the % of the clean-up they had to pay, it started out in the billions and they ended up paying less then 500 million, thank you very much to the GOP who kept fighting for them saying the fines where to much.

Watch, BP will fight all other costs including the fines until their is a Conservative in charge, then they will ask to have the amount lowered, like Exxon and the GOP will bow to them because they only care about corporate America, not the people

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RE: Republican forced to apologize for BP apology - 6/18/2010 5:24:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		That whole evidence giving process was a farce, I was trying to distinguish the actual questions from the political speeches.

Did anyone expect the other oil companies to admit they would have failed in the same way, did anyone expect the BP CEO to admit to negligence? As for those asking for the CEO to be fired what would that achieve? You'd have no continuity in the organisation and so a different set of puppets to reprimand next time with them all blaming the previous CEO for the previous record. Politics before logic.

You'll not learn anything from people if the questions have a flavour of accusation to them. Where are all the pragmatists? To get answers, if that is what you want, you have to put the people being questioned at ease otherwise self preservation instinct will control their response.

We had the same situation here with the banks being questioned by select committees, everyone knew what they were going to say so it served no purpose and nothing was learnt from it. Nothing that we didn't already know.

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