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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:03:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy -- so the governor has no say so- in his state. Why even have one then. If he is as useless as Jindal that is a very good question. LMAO. This from someone who has lived under Ted Strickland. Theres a reason Blowboy has visited Ohio more than any other state.

Icarys -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:11:27 PM)
Oh I think you know just what I mean....Play stupid if you want to. You guys argue about some of the silliest shit..It isn't even about the topics per-say but more about your personal views of each other I think and how you can make the other one look bad..Politics are just another way of attacking one another lol. Why the stance of safety is dumb in this case and I'll leave you to the political bickering and positioning. (My view short and sweet) We take risk all the time and we also "shirk" the risk for the greater good at times and to me that's what makes us better people. What most of you seem to be doing is looking at the smaller picture..oil spill...very bad for EVERYONE...Just can't fathom how people with any good sense about them would argue over that..especially arguing on political positions. Now back to blaming each others parties. Enjoy.

rulemylife -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:29:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy -- so the governor has no say so- in his state. Why even have one then. If he is as useless as Jindal that is a very good question. LMAO. This from someone who has lived under Ted Strickland. Theres a reason Blowboy has visited Ohio more than any other state. No, sorry Willbeur, you don't get to change the subject. As I've posted in links before, Jindal has been a vocal opponent of federal intervention for any reason. Until this. And now he is crying why there is not more federal help.

rulemylife -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:42:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Oh I think you know just what I mean....Play stupid if you want to. You guys argue about some of the silliest shit..It isn't even about the topics per-say but more about your personal views of each other I think and how you can make the other one look bad..Politics are just another way of attacking one another lol. Why the stance of safety is dumb in this case and I'll leave you to the political bickering and positioning. (My view short and sweet) We take risk all the time and we also "shirk" the risk for the greater good at times and to me that's what makes us better people. What most of you seem to be doing is looking at the smaller picture..oil spill...very bad for EVERYONE...Just can't fathom how people with any good sense about them would argue over that..especially arguing on political positions. Now back to blaming each others parties. Enjoy. It's per se, not per-say. Which I think sums things up about this conversation, per-say.

thompsonx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:46:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Oh I think you know just what I mean....Play stupid if you want to. You guys argue about some of the silliest shit..It isn't even about the topics per-say but more about your personal views of each other I think and how you can make the other one look bad..Politics are just another way of attacking one another lol. Why the stance of safety is dumb in this case and I'll leave you to the political bickering and positioning. (My view short and sweet) We take risk all the time and we also "shirk" the risk for the greater good at times and to me that's what makes us better people. What most of you seem to be doing is looking at the smaller picture..oil spill...very bad for EVERYONE...Just can't fathom how people with any good sense about them would argue over that..especially arguing on political positions. Now back to blaming each others parties. Enjoy. You are not there. You are not in the coast guard. You know only two of the reasons for the barges being held in port. Do you really think that the lack of a life jacket and a fire extinguisher, which could have been purchased at any hardware store in less than an hour, is the only reason? The hold up was only for about 24 hours. Yet with all of your accumulated ignorance you want to "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead". It is moronic attitudes like yours which gets people killed. Makes me happy that more experienced hands are at the helm on this one.

pahunkboy -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:49:42 PM)
How in the world did this become a D vs R issue? I doubt the oil takes that into consideration. As it slops onto the beach.

thompsonx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 6:52:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy How in the world did this become a D vs R issue? I doubt the oil takes that into consideration. As it slops onto the beach. I have not said anything about demopubs or republicrats in this thread.

rulemylife -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 7:01:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy How in the world did this become a D vs R issue? Gee gosh golly Pahunk, I don't know. Do you think it might be because your link was an article featuring a Republican governor criticizing the response of a Democratic Presidential administration?

xBullx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 7:12:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard Ok.... I read this thread title and here is all that comes to my mind: Rudimentary ships maintaining oral aficionados boarded by U.S. sailors…

thompsonx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 8:08:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard Ok.... I read this thread title and here is all that comes to my mind: Rudimentary ships maintaining oral aficionados boarded by U.S. sailors… Well they are coasties not real sailors ...but I get your drift. You did know that a soldier named alexander was a pretty well known cocksucker in his day.

Icarys -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/18/2010 8:20:15 PM)
Yeah we wouldn't want to rush anything at how many days? lol

xBullx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/19/2010 9:00:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx You did know that a soldier named alexander was a pretty well known cocksucker in his day. A great one even...............

Arpig -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/19/2010 9:07:57 AM)
quote: Gee using a disaster for political gain, no one in the GOP has ever done that before Politicians of every stripe have been doing that since politics bagan...nothing surprising there.

thompsonx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/19/2010 5:25:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx You did know that a soldier named alexander was a pretty well known cocksucker in his day. A great one even............... He did not do all that well against the indians...oh you meant the other thing, my bad

thompsonx -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/19/2010 5:37:46 PM)
You are not there. You are not in the coast guard. You know only two of the reasons for the barges being held in port. Do you really think that the lack of a life jacket and a fire extinguisher, which could have been purchased at any hardware store in less than an hour, is the only reason? The hold up was only for about 24 hours. Yet with all of your accumulated ignorance you want to "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead". It is moronic attitudes like yours which gets people killed. Makes me happy that more experienced hands are at the helm on this one. quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Yeah we wouldn't want to rush anything at how many days? lol More puerile bullshit...You have no response to my statement so you post up nonsense. You do not have a clue as to how to solve the problem but you feel competent to challange those who do. You have no clue as to what makes a vessel sea worthy. The coast guard does know what it requires for a vessel to be seaworthy but you want them to ignore the seaworthiness of a vessel, put lives at risk and endanger the mission. Do you have a clue as to how foolish that is?

thishereboi -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/20/2010 9:05:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy How in the world did this become a D vs R issue? Gee gosh golly Pahunk, I don't know. Do you think it might be because your link was an article featuring a Republican governor criticizing the response of a Democratic Presidential administration? If it had been a democrat doing the criticizing, would you agree with him then? And hunky it became a d vs r thing when it was posted on this forum. There are some members of CM who can't see anything any other way.

pahunkboy -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/20/2010 9:10:53 AM)
so then the question is- on the 24 hour delay- was it known up front that this is protocol?

housesub4you -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/20/2010 10:35:20 AM)
By "protocol" do you mean ships have to pass a safety inspection? Then yes the ships owners and captain would have known. People have made light of the delay because of "fire extinguishers" However fire on any size vessels is a huge ass problem and is compounded by the fact they would be in water that has millions of gallons of oil in it. For those of you who do not think oil burns in water, then I wonder how BP is burning off the oil in places. The last thing the Coast Guard needs is to to save some ship when it is easy enough to prevent. I also find it odd, that people say it was a waste of time to stop the ship for safety reason, when if BP had followed their own safety rules then this may never had happened.

pahunkboy -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/20/2010 11:19:12 AM)
Sine when does the coast guard do inspections? Why was it not known the delay would be 24 hours? That is not how it was understood. The really is starting to become Katrina.

susie -> RE: Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (6/20/2010 2:27:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Sine when does the coast guard do inspections? Why was it not known the delay would be 24 hours? That is not how it was understood. The really is starting to become Katrina. As I understand it the USCG is responsible for: Maritime Security Maritime Safety The Coast Guard is responsible for inspecting vessels that are registered in the United States or are foreign ships in U.S. waters.

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