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Lucylastic -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 6:48:46 PM)


Im sorry Firm I thought I could comment on any post I wished, I didnt realise I had to post on certain subjects.
could you please give me a list of those you would prefer me to comment on
When Ive watched this wood warp, Ill get right on that
stop back peddling, no one bought up his race, your suppositions and assumptions are bogus.
truly grasping at straws
funny man(NOT)






Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 6:58:06 PM)


I heard Jim DeMints’ voting record and "He isn't DeMint" is very satisfactory to vote for Alvin Green.

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

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ORIGINAL: Brain
Alvin Green would be better than Jim DeMint in the United States Senate!
A positive note about Alvin Green! Go Al go!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#37791007

Now I know as a Canadian who hates South Carolina and all southerners Alvin Green would be a great candidate.  Have you actually listened to any of Mr. Green's interviews regarding his views on the issues that face the United States or South Carolina?

All the clip said is: "He isn't DeMint". 

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"He isn't DeMint".




Elisabella -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:01:13 PM)

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Your "wink, wink, nod, nod" assumption is that he is a poor, dumb, black guy, and therefore couldn't have decided to do something like this himself.  He must be someone's puppet.


I really don't think that's it.

The guy can barely string a sentence together. Everything he says is a generality, no specifics. How did he campaign without signs or a website? "Good old fashioned campaigning." What exactly does that entail? "You know, just, campaigning."

What's his platform??? What is his opinion on specific policies that affect South Carolinans? When asked about the charges he's facing he simply repeats "My laywer is handling that" which I suppose is a version of "no comment" but the phrasing sounds ridiculous.

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDb7l0AAvUY

A black man interviewing another black man. One is intelligent, well spoken, and familiar with the political system. Here's a hint - it's not the candidate.




Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:04:07 PM)

Throw the incumbent bums out! I want Alvin Green to win. Jim DeMint is a loser for the American people.
I heard one woman say she voted for Green and she said she thought he was Al Green the singer.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im sure Mr Greene is a decent chap, but someone is fucking with a lot of dumbass people
at thispoint... party doesnt matter, its a mockery






Elisabella -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:07:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain

I heard one woman say she voted for Green and she said she thought he was Al Green the singer.


lol voting




Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:09:24 PM)

Anything is possible, especially after Brown won in Massachusetts. I would love to see Republicans lose this seat because of their uncooperative and obstructionist behavior. Republicans deserve to lose this seat! Maybe they'll get their minds right and start doing what's good for the American people instead of themselves.


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Greene is a stalking horse put in the race by DeMint. We'll eventually learn the details but the guy is there to lose.


Why?

DeMint is a prohibitive favorite.  Greene is a complete unknown, but who the hell has heard of Vic Rawl?  Rawl spent no effort or money towards the primary - why is he entitled to a victory?  Who cares if it's him or Greene that gets clobbered by DeMint in the general?

DeMint stands to gain nothing by planting a stalking horse - he should win either way.  He stands to lose a LOT if he did that and it came to light.






FirmhandKY -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:11:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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Your "wink, wink, nod, nod" assumption is that he is a poor, dumb, black guy, and therefore couldn't have decided to do something like this himself.  He must be someone's puppet.


I really don't think that's it.

The guy can barely string a sentence together. Everything he says is a generality, no specifics. How did he campaign without signs or a website? "Good old fashioned campaigning." What exactly does that entail? "You know, just, campaigning."

What's his platform??? What is his opinion on specific policies that affect South Carolinans? When asked about the charges he's facing he simply repeats "My laywer is handling that" which I suppose is a version of "no comment" but the phrasing sounds ridiculous.

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDb7l0AAvUY

A black man interviewing another black man. One is intelligent, well spoken, and familiar with the political system. Here's a hint - it's not the candidate.

I read a couple of detailed explanations of how Green could have possibly gotten the number of votes required to win the Democratic nomination.  The confusion between his name, and Al Green was one of them.

It is however, not a question that DK or some others wish to address.  Regardless of how he came up with $10,400 for the registration, he was also elected by the majority of Democrats in his area.

The absence of that question is what points me to the liberal condescension.

Firm




Elisabella -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:13:15 PM)

I actually hope that he gets elected too. The phrase "Pyrrhic victory" comes to mind but I'd love to see the face of the guy who put him up for this if he does get elected.

lol I trolled the election OH SHI----




DarkSteven -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:14:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Then you have to explain where the filing fee came from. His explanation is fairly obviously untrue.


Good point.  I have no answer for that.  But I stand by my assertion that DeMint has nothing to gain.  However, I do not know who put up the $10K.




Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:15:39 PM)

That is a good question but I think it came from somebody who doesn't like the other Democratic candidate Rawls. It doesn't make sense for Jim DeMint to give the money because nobody could expect him to lose this seat and I think it could backfire on him if he was the person who did it.


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Greene is a stalking horse put in the race by DeMint. We'll eventually learn the details but the guy is there to lose.


Why?

DeMint is a prohibitive favorite.  Greene is a complete unknown, but who the hell has heard of Vic Rawl?  Rawl spent no effort or money towards the primary - why is he entitled to a victory?  Who cares if it's him or Greene that gets clobbered by DeMint in the general?

DeMint stands to gain nothing by planting a stalking horse - he should win either way.  He stands to lose a LOT if he did that and it came to light.


Then you have to explain where the filing fee came from. His explanation is fairly obviously untrue.





Elisabella -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:19:15 PM)

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It is however, not a question that DK or some others wish to address.  Regardless of how he came up with $10,400 for the registration, he was also elected by the majority of Democrats in his area.

The absence of that question is what points me to the liberal condescension.


Actually with open primaries it just means he got more votes than the other guy did. But I do think that the name confusion might have played a part in it.

I think it's possible that whoever nominated him intentionally chose a dumb black guy instead of a dumb white guy, but I think the "wtf" reactions from just about everyone are more focused on the "dumb" part than the "black" part.




FirmhandKY -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:20:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


Im sorry Firm I thought I could comment on any post I wished, I didnt realise I had to post on certain subjects.
could you please give me a list of those you would prefer me to comment on
When Ive watched this wood warp, Ill get right on that
stop back peddling, no one bought up his race, your suppositions and assumptions are bogus.
truly grasping at straws
funny man(NOT)


*shrugs*

I say fuck off with your liberal condescension, whiny, and smart ass comments.

However, you are allowed to comment how you wish, when you wish.

I will however, post how I wish, and when I wish.

Pointing out your "agreement by absence" to certain other posters' constant snide remarks and innuendos is perfectly within my rights.

Pointing out that your failure to mention how he received sufficient votes to win, and speculating on why you fail to mention it is perfectly within my rights.

Just put me on "ignore" if you can't stand the heat.

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:22:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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It is however, not a question that DK or some others wish to address.  Regardless of how he came up with $10,400 for the registration, he was also elected by the majority of Democrats in his area.

The absence of that question is what points me to the liberal condescension.


Actually with open primaries it just means he got more votes than the other guy did. But I do think that the name confusion might have played a part in it.

I think it's possible that whoever nominated him intentionally chose a dumb black guy instead of a dumb white guy, but I think the "wtf" reactions from just about everyone are more focused on the "dumb" part than the "black" part.

Yeah, I've heard that as well (that Republicans voted for Green).

Yet no one seems the least bit interested in checking the voter rolls against party affiliation to determine if it has any validity.

I wonder why?

Firm




DarkSteven -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:22:29 PM)

Okay, let me sum this up.  There are two questions:

1. Where did the $10K filing fee come from?
2. Why did he win over Rawl?

I have no answer for the first question, but the answer to the second is because Rawl ran a piss poor campaign.  It looks like random voting may have done him in.




Elisabella -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:27:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Yeah, I've heard that as well (that Republicans voted for Green).

Yet no one seems the least bit interested in checking the voter rolls against party affiliation to determine if it has any validity.

I wonder why?

Firm



I don't know. Honestly I don't think it was "republicans" who did it, at least not republicans who were acting in the interests of the republican party.

Basically the two options are:

1. A group of people made a coordinated effort to get people to vote for Greene.

2. A lot of stupid people vote when they have no clue who they're voting for.

I'd place my money on #2 but I think it could have been a combination of both.




Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:31:18 PM)

I believe he's telling the truth. I believe he's a Democrat and I believe he is a better man for the job of United States Sen. than Jim DeMint. It's entirely possible he got the money from family or maybe it was from a drug deal but I believe it was his money. And if it was from the Army that's entirely possible also because the government has been giving away a lot of bonus money for people to join the Army.


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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Your "wink, wink, nod, nod" assumption is that he is a poor, dumb, black guy, and therefore couldn't have decided to do something like this himself.  He must be someone's puppet.


I really don't think that's it.

The guy can barely string a sentence together. Everything he says is a generality, no specifics. How did he campaign without signs or a website? "Good old fashioned campaigning." What exactly does that entail? "You know, just, campaigning."

What's his platform??? What is his opinion on specific policies that affect South Carolinans? When asked about the charges he's facing he simply repeats "My laywer is handling that" which I suppose is a version of "no comment" but the phrasing sounds ridiculous.

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDb7l0AAvUY

A black man interviewing another black man. One is intelligent, well spoken, and familiar with the political system. Here's a hint - it's not the candidate.





DCWoody -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:36:42 PM)

This story even came over here. Suggestions on this side of the pond that his 'stupidity' is just stumbling over words due to nerves, and he's got a brain when he realises an interviewer isn't just there to 'gotcha' him. I do like this story....if only he had any form of online website I bet he could get a load of funding and put on a good show at least. Be hard for the other guy to refuse his 'live debate' suggestion when everyone's saying he's an idiot.






Brain -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:42:12 PM)

It's too bad people won't help him because with some support he could do the impossible.


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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

This story even came over here. Suggestions on this side of the pond that his 'stupidity' is just stumbling over words due to nerves, and he's got a brain when he realises an interviewer isn't just there to 'gotcha' him. I do like this story....if only he had any form of online website I bet he could get a load of funding and put on a good show at least. Be hard for the other guy to refuse his 'live debate' suggestion when everyone's saying he's an idiot.








servantforuse -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 7:55:41 PM)

I hope the IRS investigates Al to see if he shows a $ 10,000 gift on his 2010 tax return ..




servantforuse -> RE: A positive note about Alvin Green! (6/19/2010 8:10:35 PM)

Brain. Since you don't like DeMints voting record, what do you like about al Green's voting record ?




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