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Politesub53 -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 1:44:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub


The US lost 620,000 dead in a war and survived to become a world power...But...I am not questioning the courage of the French...just that they were inept at war.

And as far as that goes we are pretty inept ourselves of late.

Butch


The French were not so inept in 1776 though eh ?  Maybe your history lessons are a tad too selective.




splorff -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:19:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

--  I do like British humor.  



I imagine that American humour like that of the British, has regionality.

My favourite is the scouse [liverpudlian] sense of humour. It has been said that Liverpool is the capital of Ireland, and I think that this has something to do with it. The Irish and English who settled there have produced this off beat humour.

A good scouser will set out to have you rolling around the floor laughing at him, and he isn’t going to stop ill he gets you there. It’s opportunistic. He will see something ridiculous in the ordinary and play upon it. Then there is the curious accent, and the way they put words together.

London humour seems to be all about self depreciation. Scots, welsh and the humour of the Midlands are all quite amusing too.




splorff -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:24:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

The Brits have been lulled into loosing their national will to survive by their utopian labor liberals

In a few years they'll all be speaking various Arabic and Persian dialects. Their women will be wearing burkka's and they'll be living under Sharia law.

And of course American Liberal/Communists will still tell us how we should be more like the urbane and sophisticated, yet subjugated European's.




I agree, and should you protest or comment, they will queue up to throw rocks at you, while screaming bigot ! racist !




LadyEllen -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:27:49 AM)

The French have always been inept at war, believing that strength of numbers alone will do it for them - sometimes this strategy works and sometimes it doesnt, and it very often doesnt when theyre confronted by an enemy who puts a bit of thought into things, whether out of necessity (against us, we lack their numbers) or out of a wish to fuck them up real bad (the Germans in WWII).

The French at May 1940 had more troops and (surprisingly) more tanks in general and more bigger tanks too than the Germans; the French however had not put too much thought into how to use tanks, (one of many similar failings of the inter-war period) and placed them piecemeal as infantry support so that when the Germans arrived with a hundred tanks in one place the French forces - a couple of platoons plus a tank - stood little chance and were rapidly overcome, the line penetrated and encirclement begun with the footsoldiers following on mopping up any survivors.

What you cant fault the French for though (aside from their current team in S Africa of course) is bravery and spirit. A bit like the Welsh, Scots and Irish in this regard the French soldier is one of the best in the world. What they lack in war, and the Welsh, Scots and Irish have, is the cool head for strategic planning that comes from us calculating Germanic types, who tend to believe in working things out rather than getting drunk and charging headlong at the enemy.

E




splorff -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:30:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

With this recent warm sunny weather we have had, I have not yet burned, which is unusual, but I am experimenting at the moment with an oily diet and moisturising with coconut oil. I just go red, then brown instead of red, pain, brown itch and peel. Oh and beware sun blocks and things, some of them contain things that might alter DNA according to a recent study.


I rather prefer pale women, they contrast well with my strappery.




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:40:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Look mate: have a butcher's on youtube for clips from (to pick a few examples) Coming Of Age, Gavin And Stacey, Raw Power, The Girlie Show, Funky Bunker, Richard and Judy, Vanessa, Jeremy Kyle, Four Pints Of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps, On The Buses, Bread or Just Good Friends and then try and argue that your telly is worse than ours...


I can't compare british TV with american (haven't been long enough in america the last time, might get another view of it in september) however I am not a fan of british TV as it contains more rude behaviour in series and soap crap over here than I am used to from TV at home ... and whilst that might reflect reality here at times...it is getting on the nerves rather sooner than later for me...hence over here I never got fond of most of the series here where many people are overly keen on.




splorff -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:42:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


I am not questioning the courage of the French...just that they were inept at war.



Consider also the beatings they took at Agincourt, Crecy, Waterloo, Trafalgar and just about everywhere else they met the English. Then there are their spats with the Germans, consider the Franco Prussian war, and others. The Nordic people seem to be better at warfare

You are right, war is not their thing. But the French do excel at cooking, and art, and probably more besides.

And their language sounds so sexy on a woman






Syrox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 2:58:11 AM)

Haing lived on both sides of the pond (Brought up in America but have lived in England for the last 20 years) I think I have something of a balanced view on this. (or not).

I love the American's patriotism. That is something we are seriously lacking in Britain.  Britain are mostly a nation of moaners. What i have observed is there are a lot of people complaining about a lot of things and very few who will actually get off of their arses (or asses for our US brethren) and DO something about it.

The Amreicans have MUCH better food though.  I miss American Pancakes and waffles with Aunt Jamima syrup for breakfast, Twinkies, Sloppy Joes, and so many other foods that they have all slipped my mind momentarily.

It says a lot about British food (and not good) when our national dish is Chicken Tikka Masala. A dish that originated in INDIA and was bastardised when it was served in Britain and then adopted as British food can be so BLAND.

The Humour here in the UK is to my mind on the whole BETTER than that in the US (but the US DOES have some Gems and has had many in the past.)  The US is also much better at creating a grand spectacle.  Tahe the Olympic games for example. the closing ceremonies,  I almost cringe and dread to think what we are going to come up with here for the 2012 games..  Daniel O'Donnel, and the BBC News team doing a song and dance act to the tunes of Oklahoma.  (might just give it a miss.)

As for the Brits following the Americans blindly.  I was under the impression that the "Special Relationship" came about because the US bailed the UK out when it was on the verge of being a bankrupt nation somewhere around (I believe it was) the 40s or 50s.  meaning that now Britain feels obliged to follow blindly wherever the US decides to go.  Just my take on it, but then we have always been more culturally close to the US than Europe anyway (after all, we have *Under Consideration* written on our profile to become the 51st State)

When I come to power and rule the world I would take what is BEST from both countries, combine them, Kick France out of their own country (the could go occupy Antarctica or something) and build my own Anglo-American culture there




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 3:03:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

A part of British culture the yanks on here might be unaware with is the late Frank Sidebottom: a fine comedian and dynamite in bed. Apparently the poor guy's just died of cancer.
Frank Sidebottom sings a Smiths cover...



or another part of less known british culture are the pantomimes here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqdgXfiBhc&feature=related





Syrox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 3:06:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

A part of British culture the yanks on here might be unaware with is the late Frank Sidebottom: a fine comedian and dynamite in bed. Apparently the poor guy's just died of cancer.
Frank Sidebottom sings a Smiths cover...





or another part of less known british culture are the pantomimes here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqdgXfiBhc&feature=related




OH NO IT ISN'T!!!
Couldn't resist.... Sorry.




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 3:16:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Syrox

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ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

A part of British culture the yanks on here might be unaware with is the late Frank Sidebottom: a fine comedian and dynamite in bed. Apparently the poor guy's just died of cancer.
Frank Sidebottom sings a Smiths cover...





or another part of less known british culture are the pantomimes here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqdgXfiBhc&feature=related




OH NO IT ISN'T!!!
Couldn't resist.... Sorry.




OH YES IT IS!!! [;)]


That will probably be one of the main things I will be missing a lil bit when I leave this isle for good, as some of them (the ones who aren't over the top) can really be fun [:)]

When I met my C(asual)-Dom again last year after not meeting him for years I even brought up the phrase "and off we go" in pantomime style..once he indicated that it was time to get serious now [&:]

which brought good laughter to us at that moment (though my laughter then soon vanished for the rest of the night [&:])




eyesopened -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 3:40:56 AM)

My only real contact with the British has been in the travel and hospitality industries.  My impression is the general public in the UK (except the Irish, I love speaking with the Irish folks) think we in the US are generally dolts and cannot have a real understanding of anything.  It's as if Americans are their mentally-challenged cousins.  I've actually heard many times when they reach my desk, "Oh.  You're a Yank!  You can't know anything." and hang up.

From my experience, how they come across is Heathrow to JFK.




LadyEllen -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:05:51 AM)

The general public in the UK and Ireland are utter morons Eyes, and you only suffer them on account of budget air travel (otherwise they'd be in Spain).

Now you know how status rules everything here? Well this explains their interactions with you, in that theyre generally too stupid to be anything other than themselves and their moronity extends in most instances to believing themselves of far higher status, (presumably owing to some misunderstanding about purchasing social housing at knock down prices), than they really are, especially when abroad (presumably due to a daily dose of tabloid "news" papers whose xenophobia is a key selling point).

There are good reasons I pretend to be German if, on my travels, I run across "Brits On Tour".

E




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:40:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
There are good reasons I pretend to be German if, on my travels, I run across "Brits On Tour".
E


I pretend that, too [:)]


*adores LadyEllen*





Moonhead -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:47:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Syrox
It says a lot about British food (and not good) when our national dish is Chicken Tikka Masala. A dish that originated in INDIA and was bastardised when it was served in Britain and then adopted as British food can be so BLAND.

Actually, that one is far more British than Indian (or properly, Pakistani). It's the very model of a crap and ludicrously overseasoned curry of interest only to the murghish, so the national dish thing isn't inappropriate in that light. It's rather more English than tea, to pick an obvious example.




LadyEllen -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:48:11 AM)

I bet you pull it off better than me though eh? You have an unfair advantage mind.....!

Its not just the moronic behaviour of the majority of my compatriots, its also their insistence once they find out you speak a language other than English, that you become their personal interpreter and translator (and by extension, mom).

E




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:51:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: Syrox
It says a lot about British food (and not good) when our national dish is Chicken Tikka Masala. A dish that originated in INDIA and was bastardised when it was served in Britain and then adopted as British food can be so BLAND.

Actually, that one is far more British than Indian (or properly, Pakistani). It's the very model of a crap and ludicrously overseasoned curry of interest only to the murghish, so the national dish thing isn't inappropriate in that light. It's rather more English than tea, to pick an obvious example.


I always thought that ready meals in general would be "traditional british food" considering how much variety of that crap is to find in the stores and all the shows where Jamie etc try to teach folks over here to actually cook....[8|]

I seriously learned to appreciate the food I got at my school as a kid after seeing what seem to be normal school dinners here [:'(][:'(][:'(]




Moonhead -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:58:13 AM)

The really hilarious thing about that stupidity was the way a whiney television chef seemed to have more influence on what the kids were fed than the education minister. What the fuck was that all about?
Good point about the preprocessed crap, though.




PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 4:58:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I bet you pull it off better than me though eh? You have an unfair advantage mind.....!

Its not just the moronic behaviour of the majority of my compatriots, its also their insistence once they find out you speak a language other than English, that you become their personal interpreter and translator (and by extension, mom).

E


lol, not that sure if it is an advantage really...at least when you talk german they wouldn't have a clue if there is any word or grammar wrong in it...you actually can tell them anything and they believe you as they can't understand you in the first place...whereas when I talk english...they are smart enough to figure it out when grammar isn't correct [8|] and then the power games like to start at times how great they are as they are so good in their languge...[8|] and of course aren't able to talk any other language themselves, so feel no need to face reality that they aren't perfect either

However, I take life here as my personal pantomime...and in january my visa application gets filed at last [:)]




Moonhead -> RE: The British ? (6/22/2010 5:01:00 AM)

There is an easy way around that problem, of course:
"My mate here says that Hitler was a very great man, and that he should have gassed a lot more jews. He also says that your wife has a face like a slapped arse, but he'd definitely give your son a good seeing to..."




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