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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 5:59:51 PM   
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What?

You don't recall the cold war?

That - would be a huge gap.   I thought most the world went thru the cold war.   The other items make sense.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:03:58 PM   
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I don't care how old or young someone is as long as they have the tools to make a relationship successful and are compatible. Like any stereotype, it's foolish to assume anything based on age other than physiological differences. I know a helll of a lot of really immature 40-50 age range people that many 20 somethings have beat hands down on maturity and relationship skills.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:07:15 PM   
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How about the cold war?

Disco?

The draft?

The energy crises?

Jaws?  ET?    Dance Fever?

Little House?

The Brady Bunch?

Mood rings?

Rubics cubes?

LPs?




awesome..;)

My Master is my age, or, as He likes to point out out, 6 months younger. I had serious issues about our ages when we met because i have always been with older men.. and i think the way that men and women age differently, it is difficult for me sometimes. I feel like i look older than He does. But, i have to say W/we both really enjoy the common experiences.. for instance, we both went to see Kiss as freshmen..lol.. when a song comes on, we remember similar experiences.. we both love Journey..:) he likes the whole disco/dance music and i do not, however..lol
But, it so pleasurable to have shared experiences!

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:14:16 PM   
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xX, we are the same age.

I think there are a good many around age 46 on this site.  :-)

Not that - one has to have had every fad ever known- but the general frame of reference- the mood of the society- the hope, dreams, fears, the pop culture- it all adds up.


I drove my sister crazy with cold war movies.  But I recall being afraid of Soviet nukes.  So- it was part of life that place and time.   He age group had not really gone thru the cold war-  (she was born in 74) So the idea -mentality was foreign to her.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:19:22 PM   
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-- then there was the Fleetwood Mac Rumours album.


Donna Summer live and more was good.   Music going from the 70s rock into 80s- with a stop off in disco was an interesting time.

this when machine ate 8 track tapes.

STOMP

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:20:34 PM   
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I don't care how old or young someone is as long as they have the tools to make a relationship successful and are compatible. Like any stereotype, it's foolish to assume anything based on age other than physiological differences. I know a helll of a lot of really immature 40-50 age range people that many 20 somethings have beat hands down on maturity and relationship skills.


As someone that is a parent of a very young adult, I would not approve of it if he brought home a 50 year old woman, why? I want him to find someone that there is the possibility of building a life with. My oldest brother married a woman my age when he was 18 and it was a huge mistake for him.

If I offer advice to someone about matters like this, it isn't because I think I know it all, but I do believe that in most cases that level of age difference between a teenager and their significant other is detrimental on average. On average most teenagers do not have the skills to engage in an intimate relationship with someone so much older than themselves, and I think it is wrong to have such a relationship with a teenager. Someone in their mid to late 20s, somewhat different, they are more established into adulthood....

People do what they are going to do, but in my experience with the people I have known that engaged in these relationships, and I have known a few (teenagers marrying people over 40), it did not end well. I have another friend who was a widow at 38 and because she couldn't deal with the death of her hubby that was 35 yrs older than her, they took her kids away.... she melted down. He told me before he died he thought he had made a mistake, he should have let her be and maybe she would have made a life with someone her own age. In some ways he said he felt like he had raised her.


Now perhaps you know of better ending stories, but to ignore the potential for abuse of power, the potential for a young person to invest emotionally in a relationship with no real future, etc etc etc, I do not think it is "judgmental" to advise against it, and I would advise my son against it... but only because I want what is best for him and I love him

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:26:42 PM   
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Age is a distinction best suited to place a metric on life.

We start out as two cells working a groove thing into a person that will be missed after they pass into the dust of the ether.

It is rare for me to find a young miss thing with the caliber of maturity and mental acuity I seek. Those that are older have a general disposition of not wanting me as a mate due to the age difference.

1.) I don't want to die before you.
2.) You are not mature enough.
3.) I'm looking for a real man.
4.) It would be socially awkward
5.) Eh, your good enough for a personal toilet.
6.) SURPRISE. I SMOKE CRYSTAL METH AND EAT PILLS ALL DAY. I ran from that one.

I could go on but I won't.
I try to eat rejection like twizzlers but there is no twiz. Or zlers.

I'm young and 'pretty' and eager to assist those that need assisting. I entertain those that need entertained. In some ways I am a step ahead.

Age does not tell is the amount of experience one is capable of having. The good and the bad. and the nonplussed.

Take it or leave it but don't let me rot. Please and thank you Ladies.




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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:27:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

-- then there was the Fleetwood Mac Rumours album.


Donna Summer live and more was good.   Music going from the 70s rock into 80s- with a stop off in disco was an interesting time.

this when machine ate 8 track tapes.

STOMP



HeeHee i never did the 8 track or cassete, remember the tv adds.. $9.99 lp, 12.99 8track or cassette...



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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:28:43 PM   
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Julia, I dont see how that is possible.

Telling someone they cant- wont work.   Your son might go for just because he cant have it.  See?

So how would you diffuse any of that?  Other then hinting and suggesting.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:31:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xXsoumisXx


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

-- then there was the Fleetwood Mac Rumours album.


Donna Summer live and more was good.   Music going from the 70s rock into 80s- with a stop off in disco was an interesting time.

this when machine ate 8 track tapes.

STOMP



HeeHee i never did the 8 track or cassete, remember the tv adds.. $9.99 lp, 12.99 8track or cassette...



Thats right- the tapes were always more expensive.  I forgot that.  lol

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:31:54 PM   
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Julia, I dont see how that is possible.

Telling someone they cant- wont work.   Your son might go for just because he cant have it.  See?

So how would you diffuse any of that?  Other then hinting and suggesting.



Are you saying he would do it because I would disapprove? Like to prove a point to me? My son has more maturity than to do something to prove he is an adult. I treat him like an adult, he is an adult...

If he made that choice I would voice my objections, he is an adult and he would do what he wanted to do....

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:33:20 PM   
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xX, we are the same age.

I think there are a good many around age 46 on this site.  :-)

Not that - one has to have had every fad ever known- but the general frame of reference- the mood of the society- the hope, dreams, fears, the pop culture- it all adds up.


I drove my sister crazy with cold war movies.  But I recall being afraid of Soviet nukes.  So- it was part of life that place and time.   He age group had not really gone thru the cold war-  (she was born in 74) So the idea -mentality was foreign to her.



Ok i have a funny story.. i have a little brother born in 73. One day, i was discussing the very recent death of John Lennon, and how sad i was, cause i had hopes of a reunion.. my brother was listening.. heard me mention Paul McCartney..
he said wow, Paul McCartney? he was in a band before Wings???


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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:33:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Julia, I dont see how that is possible.

Telling someone they cant- wont work.   Your son might go for just because he cant have it.  See?

So how would you diffuse any of that?  Other then hinting and suggesting.



Are you saying he would do it because I would disapprove? Like to prove a point to me? My son has more maturity than to do something to prove he is an adult. I treat him like an adult, he is an adult...

If he made that choice I would voice my objections, he is an adult and he would do what he wanted to do....


Some kids would do so- yes.

He sounds more mature then that.  Tho I know a good many who are not.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:36:06 PM   
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quote:

Wings
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

xX, we are the same age.

I think there are a good many around age 46 on this site.  :-)

Not that - one has to have had every fad ever known- but the general frame of reference- the mood of the society- the hope, dreams, fears, the pop culture- it all adds up.


I drove my sister crazy with cold war movies.  But I recall being afraid of Soviet nukes.  So- it was part of life that place and time.   He age group had not really gone thru the cold war-  (she was born in 74) So the idea -mentality was foreign to her.



Ok i have a funny story.. i have a little brother born in 73. One day, i was discussing the very recent death of John Lennon, and how sad i was, cause i had hopes of a reunion.. my brother was listening.. heard me mention Paul McCartney..
he said wow, Paul McCartney? he was in a band before Wings???




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_%28band%29

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:39:26 PM   
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Most of my partner were usually 8-14 years older...my C-Dom is 22 years older but he is the exception where I felt comfortable with that age difference (as he simply is special).

Same age usually isnt useful for me.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:47:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

I don't care how old or young someone is as long as they have the tools to make a relationship successful and are compatible. Like any stereotype, it's foolish to assume anything based on age other than physiological differences. I know a helll of a lot of really immature 40-50 age range people that many 20 somethings have beat hands down on maturity and relationship skills.


As someone that is a parent of a very young adult, I would not approve of it if he brought home a 50 year old woman, why? I want him to find someone that there is the possibility of building a life with. My oldest brother married a woman my age when he was 18 and it was a huge mistake for him.

If I offer advice to someone about matters like this, it isn't because I think I know it all, but I do believe that in most cases that level of age difference between a teenager and their significant other is detrimental on average. On average most teenagers do not have the skills to engage in an intimate relationship with someone so much older than themselves, and I think it is wrong to have such a relationship with a teenager. Someone in their mid to late 20s, somewhat different, they are more established into adulthood....

People do what they are going to do, but in my experience with the people I have known that engaged in these relationships, and I have known a few (teenagers marrying people over 40), it did not end well. I have another friend who was a widow at 38 and because she couldn't deal with the death of her hubby that was 35 yrs older than her, they took her kids away.... she melted down. He told me before he died he thought he had made a mistake, he should have let her be and maybe she would have made a life with someone her own age. In some ways he said he felt like he had raised her.


Now perhaps you know of better ending stories, but to ignore the potential for abuse of power, the potential for a young person to invest emotionally in a relationship with no real future, etc etc etc, I do not think it is "judgmental" to advise against it, and I would advise my son against it... but only because I want what is best for him and I love him


Thank you, juliaoceania, you said everything I was trying to say much better than I was able to say it.  That whole situation really gets to me, though, having been taken advantage of when I was a teenager, my emotions may have gotten the better of me, though, I don't think I was wrong.  But that, along with your previous post on here, is exactly what I was trying to say. 

< Message edited by DarlingSavage -- 6/22/2010 6:48:04 PM >


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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:55:41 PM   
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As for me, personally, I also have a daughter who is a young adult.  I would feel wierd if she brought home some 50 yr old man as a mate.  I would also advise her against it.  I would love her no matter what, but I would strongly try to deter her from making such a mistake.  I've also had the experience of having my own father marry a girl who was 1 year older than myself, when I was 23, and he married her on MY birthday.  That was pretty creepy, and she looked like me.  Very creepy, along with all the other stuff that happened between the 2 of us when I was growing up.  So, yeah, I have strong feelings on the topic. 

Also, I like talking to kids (20 somethings), I don't mind hanging out with them some, I feel motherly towards them, and it's a pretty unavoidable situation being that I'm in university, however, I've gone out of my way to find places where people my own age hang out.  Even if most of them aren't all that attractive, I'd still rather hang out with the big kids. 


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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 6:58:10 PM   
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I have a brother who is becoming that 50 year old man.  It is not pretty either.  The whole idea is a trainwreck to me.

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 7:02:03 PM   
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I'm sorry to hear that.  It's not pretty, is it?

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RE: Age... - 6/22/2010 7:03:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

I don't care how old or young someone is as long as they have the tools to make a relationship successful and are compatible. Like any stereotype, it's foolish to assume anything based on age other than physiological differences. I know a helll of a lot of really immature 40-50 age range people that many 20 somethings have beat hands down on maturity and relationship skills.


As someone that is a parent of a very young adult, I would not approve of it if he brought home a 50 year old woman, why? I want him to find someone that there is the possibility of building a life with. My oldest brother married a woman my age when he was 18 and it was a huge mistake for him.

If I offer advice to someone about matters like this, it isn't because I think I know it all, but I do believe that in most cases that level of age difference between a teenager and their significant other is detrimental on average. On average most teenagers do not have the skills to engage in an intimate relationship with someone so much older than themselves, and I think it is wrong to have such a relationship with a teenager.

I have another friend who was a widow at 38 and because she couldn't deal with the death of her hubby that was 35 yrs older than her, they took her kids away.... she melted down. He told me before he died he thought he had made a mistake, he should have let her be and maybe she would have made a life with someone her own age. In some ways he said he felt like he had raised her.

Now perhaps you know of better ending stories, but to ignore the potential for abuse of power, the potential for a young person to invest emotionally in a relationship with no real future, etc etc etc, I do not think it is "judgmental" to advise against it, and I would advise my son against it... but only because I want what is best for him and I love him


Whilst I hear what you are saying I know that if my parents would try to interfere in anything like that they wouldn't succeed....as I simply have the strong view that just because they are my parents doesn't mean they are right or that they know better...I know that my mother wasn't pleased when I met C-Dom a view times, aged 27 when he was 49 or 50 but it couldn't have bothered me less what she thinks about it as I am not born to live her life but to live mine instead.

In regards to the fact that your friend could not deal with it when her husband died, quite frankly life doesn't give guarantees like that. A friend of mine was heavily pregnant with twins when her partner died from an accident. So age isn't the argument for me in that respect either as you can lose your partner at any age.

And in regards to abuse of power...I would trust someone who is older in life and more stable more than someone in my age who still is building up his career or in regards to younger age not even necessarily know what he wants from life. As much as there are older people who aren't that good as much are there older people who are gorgeous and I would not put them into the group of being abusive with their power. At the end of the day a lot depends as well on how much you allow to let play with yourself from other people and thats again one thing which depends on your upbringing, how easily you are a target to be used.

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