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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:32:07 PM   
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i accounted for that, but considering i have serious doubts that they specified they mistook you based on your logical/analytical style, im pretty comfortable assuming that you made that conclusion independently....


Which again proves that your arguments are nearly always based on nothing but mere assumption, while you at the same time constantly demonstrate that you absolutely suck at actually making the right assumptions.

I've often corrected misconceptions people had about my gender in such situations, and have on more than one occasion, been giving the explanation, by the people involved, that the reason they jumped to such a conclusion was because my logical/analytical writing style.






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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:40:14 PM   
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i accounted for that, but considering i have serious doubts that they specified they mistook you based on your logical/analytical style, im pretty comfortable assuming that you made that conclusion independently....


Which again proves that your arguments are nearly always based on nothing but mere assumption, while you at the same time constantly demonstrate that you absolutely suck at actually making the right assumptions.

I've often corrected misconceptions people had about my gender in such situations, and have on more than one occasion, been giving the explanation, by the people involved, that the reason they jumped to such a conclusion was because my logical/analytical writing style.







thank you for this contribution.

i initially found it shocking that someone would be crass enough to offer such a backhanded compliment, yet i forget that you deal with male doms in some frequency. thus, the ironic component to this anecdote is that while refuting me in the short term, your testimony reinforces the larger point i staked out in the thread i started.


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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:45:58 PM   
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thank you for this contribution.

i initially found it shocking that someone would be crass enough to offer such a backhanded compliment, yet i forget that you deal with male doms in some frequency. thus, the ironic component to this anecdote is that while refuting me in the short term, your testimony reinforces the larger point i staked out in the thread i started.



Again with the absolutely ridiculous assumptions... do you ever think before you write something down?

There is no online medium where I communicate with fellow kinksters without there being a profile, a picture, or a back ground present.
As such, any interactions with dominant me always start of with it clearly know that I at least claim to be female.

The interactions I'm talking about where my writing style was mistaken as being male from nothing but textual content all happened either in mail or fora exchanges that I peruse from an academic interest, or work related manners.
As such, I find it highly questionable that these specific people would all be dominants.

Further more, it's not even the case that it are men who tend to assume I'm a guy.
I've heard that assumption almost equally from other women as I have heard it from men.




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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:48:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

thank you for this contribution.

i initially found it shocking that someone would be crass enough to offer such a backhanded compliment, yet i forget that you deal with male doms in some frequency. thus, the ironic component to this anecdote is that while refuting me in the short term, your testimony reinforces the larger point i staked out in the thread i started.



Again with the absolutely ridiculous assumptions... do you ever think before you write something down?

There is no online medium where I communicate with fellow kinksters without there being a profile, a picture, or a back ground present.
As such, any interactions with dominant me always start of with it clearly know that I at least claim to be female.

The interactions I'm talking about where my writing style was mistaken as being male from nothing but textual content all happened either in mail or fora exchanges that I peruse from an academic interest, or work related manners.
As such, I find it highly questionable that these specific people would all be dominants.

Further more, it's not even the case that it are men who tend to assume I'm a guy.
I've heard that assumption almost equally from other women as I have heard it from men.





blagh. i can't combat anecdotal evidence, so i therefore will concede. of course, you still live in iowa, so it is all relative.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:52:45 PM   
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All of this is retarded and completely off point, greatness...

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:53:28 PM   
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blagh. i can't combat anecdotal evidence, so i therefore will concede. of course, you still live in iowa, so it is all relative.


So your making an ad hominem attack instead, because you're trying to argue a point that you made up to begin with?

Impressive...

I'm moving to Chicago mid-August, does that make you feel better about my argument sweetie?




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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:56:43 PM   
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it obviously works at least a couple times for them or they wouldn't continue to use it.

It takes all kinds and some will respond to such emails and most won't.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 6:56:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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blagh. i can't combat anecdotal evidence, so i therefore will concede. of course, you still live in iowa, so it is all relative.


I'm moving to Chicago mid-August, does that make you feel better about my argument sweetie?





no.... but it does make me feel better about your life! im from illinois and lived in chicago for a bit myself... seriously, you will love it.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 7:03:59 PM   
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no.... but it does make me feel better about your life! im from illinois and lived in chicago for a bit myself... seriously, you will love it.


Thanks for the general pity you seem to take on my life, it's sincerely unappreciated...

I liked Chicago so far, though I am definitely going to miss the country... a lot.
My man is going house hunting in the not too distant future, and I've already started my devious ploy to convince him that I definitely need a very big back yard, even if that means we wont be living down-town Chicago.




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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 7:11:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

no.... but it does make me feel better about your life! im from illinois and lived in chicago for a bit myself... seriously, you will love it.


Thanks for the general pity you seem to take on my life, it's sincerely unappreciated...

I liked Chicago so far, though I am definitely going to miss the country... a lot.
My man is going house hunting in the not too distant future, and I've already started my devious ploy to convince him that I definitely need a very big back yard, even if that means we wont be living down-town Chicago.





lol. it isn't pity... it just isnt what i would carve out for you. and yeah, if you move to the suburbs at 25 you will secure my massive disappointment.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 7:17:00 PM   
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lol. it isn't pity... it just isnt what i would carve out for you. and yeah, if you move to the suburbs at 25 you will secure my massive disappointment.


Why thank you for feeling the need to carve out my life for me.
Is that that misogynistic undertone we discussed I see again popping up?

Indulge me darling, and please let me know exactly what kind of life you feel I should lead instead of the life I actually want to lead?

If I can help it, the suburbs will be exactly where we'll be going.
Again, thanks for your concern, and please, do not mistake my interest in hearing how you feel I should live for actually giving a shit about your opinion...
I ask merely because I'm bored and I'd like the personal entertainment I know you will so adequately provide...

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:03:28 PM   
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I am not meaning to bash how anyone else conducts themselves but it may seem like it. All I am trying to do is understand why people are acting as they do. To quote a email that a friend received, "Bow down to my dick you sub slut."


It's nice to see my emails ARE being read. I'll try not to feel bashed.

Jeff

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:09:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

lol. it isn't pity... it just isnt what i would carve out for you. and yeah, if you move to the suburbs at 25 you will secure my massive disappointment.


Why thank you for feeling the need to carve out my life for me.
Is that that misogynistic undertone we discussed I see again popping up?

Indulge me darling, and please let me know exactly what kind of life you feel I should lead instead of the life I actually want to lead?

If I can help it, the suburbs will be exactly where we'll be going.
Again, thanks for your concern, and please, do not mistake my interest in hearing how you feel I should live for actually giving a shit about your opinion...
I ask merely because I'm bored and I'd like the personal entertainment I know you will so adequately provide...


i've given it some consideration, and i feel like the best course for you would be to relocate not to chicago, but to cincinnati.... once there you could embrace your inner domme... i suppose being the gentleman that i am, i could even be persuaded to aid in this transition process. (a entirely selfless act on my behalf of course)

and should you not choose to do that... you should live in the city. it is ok being next to the fire, but its funner being in it. you have the rest of your life to be an old suburb person... but while you are in your 20s you need to experience the city.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:26:19 PM   
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i've given it some consideration, and i feel like the best course for you would be to relocate not to chicago, but to cincinnati.... once there you could embrace your inner domme... i suppose being the gentleman that i am, i could even be persuaded to aid in this transition process. (a entirely selfless act on my behalf of course)

and should you not choose to do that... you should live in the city. it is ok being next to the fire, but its funner being in it. you have the rest of your life to be an old suburb person... but while you are in your 20s you need to experience the city.


I'm absolutely not adverse to finding a cute subbie boy to out pour the highly sadistic side of me on.
In fact, it will be one of the things on the agenda as soon as I'm settled in after the move.

However, it is with the deepest regret and most honest remorse that I have to inform you that you fail short miserable for the standards I would set in behavior, prior to engaging with such a delicious treat/creature.
Your application is thus firmly rejected, even though I haven't even had the inclination to put the add out.

Further...
With your highly reputed educational background, I'm sure I don't need to remind of as futile a fact such as that the country, and most definitely the region, I grew up in is basically one big city, especially when judged by US standards.
More so, I'll kindly refer you to a post I made on [link=http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3257888]this[/link[ thread not too long ago, so you can confirm for yourself that I, in fact, really haven't been all that terrible depraved of worldly experiences in my previous years.
Thus, I sincerly hope you can sleep more soundly at night having the firm reassurance that I really no longer feel the desire to do as much growing up as you obviously still require to do, and that I'm in a place and time in my life where I would definitely welcome settling down a bit.




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Hör wie es schreit!

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:42:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

i've given it some consideration, and i feel like the best course for you would be to relocate not to chicago, but to cincinnati.... once there you could embrace your inner domme... i suppose being the gentleman that i am, i could even be persuaded to aid in this transition process. (a entirely selfless act on my behalf of course)

and should you not choose to do that... you should live in the city. it is ok being next to the fire, but its funner being in it. you have the rest of your life to be an old suburb person... but while you are in your 20s you need to experience the city.


I'm absolutely not adverse to finding a cute subbie boy to out pour the highly sadistic side of me on.
In fact, it will be one of the things on the agenda as soon as I'm settled in after the move.

However, it is with the deepest regret and most honest remorse that I have to inform you that you fail short miserable for the standards I would set in behavior, prior to engaging with such a delicious treat/creature.
Your application is thus firmly rejected, even though I haven't even had the inclination to put the add out.

Further...
With your highly reputed educational background, I'm sure I don't need to remind of as futile a fact such as that the country, and most definitely the region, I grew up in is basically one big city, especially when judged by US standards.
More so, I'll kindly refer you to a post I made on [link=http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3257888]this[/link[ thread not too long ago, so you can confirm for yourself that I, in fact, really haven't been all that terrible depraved of worldly experiences in my previous years.
Thus, I sincerly hope you can sleep more soundly at night having the firm reassurance that I really no longer feel the desire to do as much growing up as you obviously still require to do, and that I'm in a place and time in my life where I would definitely welcome settling down a bit.



ouch... now you are just getting cruel and breaking my poor little heart unnecessarily.

also, despite my much ballyhooed education, i kinda suck in the realm of geography. where did you say you hail from... bulgaria? if given an hour and $100 for naming every country on the top of my head, i probably would have left that one on the table. i'm going to assume it is one of those scary eastern europe countries that ive become acquainted with thanks to hostel and taken. perhaps iowa isn't so bad...

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:43:57 PM   
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I get the opposite and it is just as annoying. Some men contact me and start submitting from the first message.
Telling me they are on their knees and kissing my feet.

I say hey wait a minute. I have no pictures here, an incomplete profile, and few forum post. Are you really that unselective? How NOT flattering.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:48:39 PM   
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ouch... now you are just getting cruel and breaking my poor little heart unnecessarily.

also, despite my much ballyhooed education, i kinda suck in the realm of geography. where did you say you hail from... bulgaria? if given an hour and $100 for naming every country on the top of my head, i probably would have left that one on the table. i'm going to assume it is one of those scary eastern europe countries that ive become acquainted with thanks to hostel and taken. perhaps iowa isn't so bad...


Belgium, as clearly stated in the profile you've so repeatedly enjoyed peeving.
As a general side-note, yes, that IS still very much Western-Europe we are talking about.
The heart of the European Union, it's sometimes called, but with your extensive background on any subject you wish to pretend to know a shit about, I sure you were already fully aware of that.

You should have realized already that I'd have no intention in claiming you as my personal play toy, seeing that I had already very clearly expressed that I have no interest whatsoever in fucking you, and that I most definitely plan to do that with any male-sub I ever may have the pleasure of entertaining myself with.




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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 8:57:47 PM   
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That's rather odd, because I seems that I remember the relationship lasting nearly two years.
Am I to assume you are now more knowledgeable as to the back grounds of my previous relationships than I am myself?


i was addressing the point where you began cohabitation. You claim in your profile to have moved in 08/09. We are presently in 06/10.




So am I to assume from that that relationships don't actually count until people are living together permanently?
And am I thus to totally discredit the year prior to me getting my visa I spend in Bull's collar, of which I did, incidentally spend nearly 5 months living with them?




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Hör wie es schreit!

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 9:03:20 PM   
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ouch... now you are just getting cruel and breaking my poor little heart unnecessarily.

also, despite my much ballyhooed education, i kinda suck in the realm of geography. where did you say you hail from... bulgaria? if given an hour and $100 for naming every country on the top of my head, i probably would have left that one on the table. i'm going to assume it is one of those scary eastern europe countries that ive become acquainted with thanks to hostel and taken. perhaps iowa isn't so bad...


Belgium, as clearly stated in the profile you've so repeatedly enjoyed peeving.
As a general side-note, yes, that IS still very much Western-Europe we are talking about.
The heart of the European Union, it's sometimes called, but with your extensive background on any subject you wish to pretend to know a shit about, I sure you were already fully aware of that.

You should have realized already that I'd have no intention in claiming you as my personal play toy, seeing that I had already very clearly expressed that I have no interest whatsoever in fucking you, and that I most definitely plan to do that with any male-sub I ever may have the pleasure of entertaining myself with.





lol, oh my god. i went to your profile to corroborate the date that you stated you moved. the fact that you monitored that is rather flattering.

and yeah, i actually had belgium typed initially, but was dissuaded. ugh.

regarding your last point, yeah... i realize that. however, you live way far away, so this development does not distress me all that much.

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RE: Overtly Agressive Dominance - 6/23/2010 9:04:20 PM   
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Okay, be honest---who misses our Bosnian friend right now? Who is imagining a keyboard to keyboard matchup?

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