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TheHeretic -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/25/2010 6:17:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
wetback



More "sarcasm," Moon, or do you just get a kick out of using racial epithets?




pahunkboy -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/25/2010 6:29:17 PM)

I agree.   It is out of line to use derogatory terms like that.




thishereboi -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/25/2010 9:00:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level


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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
That's it!  I'm done with these boards and this site.


I hope not, I enjoy your posts.


I do too[:)]




LadyEllen -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 2:51:16 AM)

What do Republicans have to say to the millions of working poor (including qualified middle class people) and their kids made homeless and reliant on food from charities as a result of an economic downturn derived directly from the failure of the financial sector arising from their fetish for deregulation I wonder?
 
At least its now clear what trickle down means - it means standing outside a tent and pissing on the inhabitants.
 
From Channel 4 Unreported World
 
Unreported World meets the USA's new middle-class homeless: families struggling to hold down jobs that pay so little they're forced to live in tent cities or their cars and receive little help from the government.
 
Reporter Ramita Navai and producer Clancy Chassay begin their journey in Chicago, one of the country's manufacturing centres, which has been hit hard by the effects of the worst financial crisis in decades. St Columbanus church is one of 600 charities across the city that gives out emergency food rations.
 
Across America, many working people from all sectors have taken as much as 40% in pay cuts in desperation to hold on to their jobs. Their motivation is clear: if you are a temporary, part-time or self-employed worker you don't qualify for government help. The result is that many can't make ends meet and afford to feed themselves and their families.
 
Father Matt Eyerman tells Navai that the number of families receiving help from his church has leapt from 240 to 498 over the last two years, even though many of them still have jobs.
 
Today, more than 37 million Americans receive either state or private food assistance. More than three million were made homeless in 2009 despite holding down jobs. More than half of those living in shelters have had their homes repossessed by banks.
 
The team travels south to the state of Tennessee. They've been told that thousands of homeless people are taking refuge in temporary encampments. The City of Nashville, which has only only one emergency shelter for families, has more than 40 of these 'tent cities'.
 
Navai meets Michael and Stacey Farley, who have been living in the tent city for six months. Stacey tells Navai that she has been forced to leave her son and daughter with relatives while they both look for work.
 
Navai and Chassay move on to California, where more and more people are ending up on the streets. California has the highest debt in the USA and many essential services have been cut, including emergency housing assistance. 'Skid Row', which is one square mile of Los Angeles, has as many as 2,000 people sleeping rough every night. It has a reputation for drugs and crime and Navai talks to homeless people who are forced to walk all day to avoid being picked up by the police for loitering.
 
The US economy is in recovery but many experts believe the most damaging effects have yet to be felt. It's predicted that another 1.5 million people will be forced into homelessness within two years, and in a country with few safety nets, many more people could fall through the cracks.
 
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thishereboi -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 5:03:54 AM)

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What do Republicans have to say to the millions of working poor (including qualified middle class people) and their kids made homeless and reliant on food from charities as a result of an economic downturn derived directly from the failure of the financial sector arising from their fetish for deregulation I wonder?


Which republicans? The rich ones, the working poor or the unemployed?

You do realize that not all republicans are rich and not all democrats are poor right?




subrob1967 -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 5:46:36 AM)

Lady E, Chicago is a Democrat stronghold, and got Kennedy elected. It's been run by Dems forever, with the exception of Michael Bilandic. I really can't see how you can blame this one on Republicans.

Google Richard Daley, both the father and the son have run Chicago for decades.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 5:58:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Lady E, Chicago is a Democrat stronghold, and got Kennedy elected. It's been run by Dems forever, with the exception of Michael Bilandic. I really can't see how you can blame this one on Republicans.

Google Richard Daley, both the father and the son have run Chicago for decades.

Nashville has a Democratic mayor.  Tennessee has a Democratic Governor. The US has a Democratic President and Congress.

Al Gore is from near Nashville.

Firm




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 8:16:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

The US economy is in recovery



ROFL. Sure it is. And the oil spill has been plugged. Hopefully this isnt a business reporter.




popeye1250 -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 12:38:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zzzynick

I work construction, Where I am from if you do not speak spainish you will not work as a drywaller, a roofer, a cement finisher, a framer, are you getting the picture. I am  all for profit. It is what makes America great. What I cannot stand is greed. The price of a house has not gone down with the use of cheap labor, the contractors are just lining thier pockets. We need to put a screeching halt to illeagle labor in this country. We need to put honest hardworking Arericans back to work.


That sums it up pretty well.
Anyone who thinks that the homebuilders or anyone else useing illegal alien labor are going to "pass the savings on to the consumer" is nieve.
Any type of job should pay enough to live on in this country.
As I've said before, if we started importing lawyers into the country from India by the hundreds of thousands and dropped the "billable hourly rates" down to $50 an hour the people (lobbyists, lawyers, pols etc) in Washington would put a stop to that right away!
But, they don't seem to care what happens to the people that they're supposed to be "representing" do they?

Brain, congradulations on having a post go longer than one page!




LadyEllen -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 3:03:44 PM)

Incredible.

Just think of all those hours of investigation wasted, when all the while it was those bastards and it was only necessary to ask the wise heads of CM for names!

I assume now that we have identified this vile cabal, consisting of Al Gore, the mayor Of Nashville, the Governor of Tennessee and President Obama (acting in his "demonic anticipation" role presumably) and the rest, that swift justice may be executed on all of them? 

That's showed all those investigative journalists up and that Michael Moore too eh? Barking up the wrong tree as usual, damnable socialist lefty libtards!

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FirmhandKY -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 4:31:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Incredible.

Just think of all those hours of investigation wasted, when all the while it was those bastards and it was only necessary to ask the wise heads of CM for names!

I assume now that we have identified this vile cabal, consisting of Al Gore, the mayor Of Nashville, the Governor of Tennessee and President Obama (acting in his "demonic anticipation" role presumably) and the rest, that swift justice may be executed on all of them? 

That's showed all those investigative journalists up and that Michael Moore too eh? Barking up the wrong tree as usual, damnable socialist lefty libtards!

E

I dunno what's happened to you in the last few weeks, but you seem to be losing your grip occasionally, LadyE.

You posted a report about all the "poor in tent cities throughout America", and basically blaming it on the Republicans. 

Thisherboi and I showed you that at least two of the example cities that were in your post were/are controlled by Democrats.

Now this smart aleck response, apropo absolutely nothing, but showing a snotty attitude.

What's got  your panties in a wad, anyway?

Firm




pahunkboy -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 4:33:47 PM)

Es post had me baffled too.

I figured she just is in an odd mood right now.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 7:42:14 PM)

A remarkable serendipity …

The political party that turned a surplus into a deficit when they were in power …

One that voted for unemployment extension as recently as three months ago …

And one that now argues deficit spending … no way!

The repercussions, eventually, will be enormous!






seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/26/2010 8:48:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain

would anyone believe unemployment is voluntary when there is so much evidence to the contrary?


It's not ... and to think it is ... is pure fantasy.

An effort to create propaganda, just as hitler and the commies used, too.

I know many bright, intelligent, talented people who before G. W. BUSH ... made six figure incomes ...

and are now struggling to pay the bills ... on meager unemployment checks ...

think they choose this because they are lazy?

Guess what they think of republicans and conservatives ... now!





seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 12:27:39 AM)

And so many ... think illegal immigration is a problem ...

people here ... are talking about ... total US withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan ...

to pay for Medicaid ... and Extended Unemployment ...

As i recall my history ... the USA had to pull an elite COMBAT Division ... out of Vietnam ... to quell a riot ...

in a certain city of the country.

Has anyone thought ... history cannot repeat itself?




LadyEllen -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 4:53:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

You posted a report about all the "poor in tent cities throughout America", and basically blaming it on the Republicans. 

Thisherboi and I showed you that at least two of the example cities that were in your post were/are controlled by Democrats.



And you honestly expect me to believe that its Democrat local government, or indeed local government of any sort, that brought about this shambles and that has the wherewithal to resolve it now?

You honestly expect me to believe this when at the very same time your side of the debate is bemoaning the centralisation of power in Federal hands and proclaiming the end of the US at the whim of those in Washington cautioned to be bringing about a socialist state?

You really think I will accept your version of events that the mess we are all in is due to local government incompetence which, due to its further incompetence, continues? That it has nothing whatever to do with failed economic policy set centrally?

You expect me to believe that the collapse of the financial sector under the weight of its own avarice was directed by local government?

That local government instituted the deregulation and that it also then insisted on writing unconditional blank cheques to these financial institutions?

That it is local government that has since engineered the evictions and foreclosures that have put people into shanty towns and shelters?

That local government failed to insist on banks receiving taxpayer bailout that lending be provided to businesses so that a banking problem wouldnt impact on real people, their businesses and their jobs?

Just incredible.

You want me to believe at one and the same time that Obama has the power to do terrible things (aka things you dont like) whilst at the same time wanting me to believe that the mess we are all in is nothing to do with the previous incumbent but rather down to the failure and incompetence of local government?

Doublethink only works if you write the history books though, or control the news media - no wonder Rupert Murdoch et al is pissed off at the BBC and ITN - in the meantime some of us have an attention span longer than others.

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FirmhandKY -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 6:44:06 AM)

What's incredible is that your normally thoughtful replies have denigrated to nothing more than another glimpse into the hateful, hate-filled mind of just another thoughtless partisan.

It's not all black and white, right versus left.

The Democrats are just as much blame as the Republicans (if not more so, in my opinion). 

It's more about personal power, the personal acquisition of wealth and the shift to control of society to uncaring bureaucracies, and the use of them by individuals politicians than the agenda of any particular political party.

Until you can correctly identify the problem, you can't give good solutions.

Firm




thishereboi -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 6:47:46 AM)

Well I can't speak for firm, But no I don't expect that at all. I expect you to continue to blame everything bad on the republicans. Continue to assume that all conservatives are rich and just trying to screw the poor little liberals. Seriously.

And to address this particular point...."You really think I will accept your version of events that the mess we are all in is due to local government incompetence which, due to its further incompetence, continues? That it has nothing whatever to do with failed economic policy set centrally?"

Considering that you are in the UK and firm and I are in the states it would be really stupid to say. We don't have a common local government. And no, telling me your pm had his head up bush's ass doesn't count. It's not our fault you can't elect someone with balls.




LadyEllen -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 11:07:25 AM)

Ooh! Getting close to those sensitive spots am I dears?

Sore I bet? Unfortunately I'm something of a sadist though so I might just keep going yet

E




thornhappy -> RE: Republicans to the Unemployed: You're Lazy (6/27/2010 11:10:06 AM)

Frankly, how did the governors/mayors,etc. of TN bring down Wall Street?
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

What's incredible is that your normally thoughtful replies have denigrated to nothing more than another glimpse into the hateful, hate-filled mind of just another thoughtless partisan.

It's not all black and white, right versus left.

The Democrats are just as much blame as the Republicans (if not more so, in my opinion). 

It's more about personal power, the personal acquisition of wealth and the shift to control of society to uncaring bureaucracies, and the use of them by individuals politicians than the agenda of any particular political party.

Until you can correctly identify the problem, you can't give good solutions.

Firm





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