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Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 2:48:00 AM   
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Inspired by this:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3133558

I could use cheering up-I'm stuck in bed in the bad sort of pain :-(

So I'm taking a leaf out of Akasha's book and trolling for my own gratification :D

She wanted to know about vulnerability. I want to know about pain. Cause I'm nasty like that. My questions to those of you who are or have been on the receiving end in any kind of painplay dynamic:

1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?

2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)

3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?

4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?

5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?

6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness.

Obviously, don't feel you have to answer them aaaaall, but there will be virtual cookies for anyone who does

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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:08:43 AM   
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1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?

I don't consider myself a masochist. I don't orgasm from pain. I suffer through it because he loves to hit me. And yet...I crave him hitting me and I get wet when he does even though I beg for him to stop when he's doing it.

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2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)

I love the flogger. I hate the paddle. My favorite, by far though, is his bare hands. Being punched, spanked, slapped by his bare hands is so much more intimate to me.

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3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?

I don't float. I have never experienced subspace. I feel every single thing at full force. I cope by crying. And then deep weeping. And then I try to crawl away and hide under the bed. (The bastard always drags me back out)

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4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?

I always like to try and see what he has in his hands. Some days he lets me see. Some days he doesn't. All depends on his moods.

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5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?

I like some things that are stingy. Some that are thuddy. He uses what he feels like using.

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6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness.

Some days he's a 10. Some days he's less.



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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:25:55 AM   
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1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?

Who knows, I was with a rather talented sadist early on in my exploration, I'm not sure if I was always a masochist or if he conditioned me. My dynamics now are purposefully with sadists.

2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)

haha I'm soooo not telling! I refuse to answer this question on the grounds I may incriminate myself.


3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?

I do need to process the pain up until the point I drift. Really the biggest strategy is mental, adjusting how I am reacting mentally will usually do it for me. However, when it doesn't I also breathe and have found that relaxing the tension in your body helps quite a bit as well. Things hurt a hell of a lot more when your muscles are all clenched up.

4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes?


Take it as it comes. I've never really understood the scripted thing. I don't want to know, it's totally up to him.


5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy?


My preference is stingy because for me it is more difficult.



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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:33:44 AM   
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My favorite, by far though, is his bare hands. Being punched, spanked, slapped by his bare hands is so much more intimate to me.
I'm officially going to hell-that totally made me go 'Aaaaaaawww'. I'm glad you have that kind of intimacy 

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And then I try to crawl away and hide under the bed. (The bastard always drags me back out)
If you don't mind me asking (and feel free to ignore the question if you do, 'cause you've already answered a load ), if he always drags you out then how come you still try to hide? Are you thinking 'maybe this time he'll let me be', or something?

Thankyou for responding-I'm grinning now :D


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:37:04 AM   
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1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?


I'm not a masochist who has fallen for a masochist but yet I crave anything and everything he does to me no matter how much I absolutely hate the pain.

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2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)


I hate anything stingy or pinchy. I love things that are thuddy. I abhore clips of any kind but I love his hands. His hands touching me in any way is a thrill for me.

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3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?


I do get into subspace if there's a warmup and the pain is built up slowly over time but when he just full out causes me pain I just scream and cry and just try to get through it the best I can. i try to remember to breathe in and out slowly. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

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4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?


It depends on what it is and when. Depends on my mood but it's not my choice. He does what he wants, when he wants.

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5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?



thuddy. I hate stingy toys. Absolutely abhore canes, paddles, etc...Sometimes he takes this into account, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he takes it into account in a nice way, sometimes in the most evil, sadistic way he can think of.

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6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness


There are days I think he could give the Devil a run for his money.


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:40:59 AM   
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Who knows, I was with a rather talented sadist early on in my exploration, I'm not sure if I was always a masochist or if he conditioned me.
Wow, laurell-it's an amazing thought that a single individual could have such an impact on a person's sexual expression for the rest of their lives-he must have been pretty special.

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haha I'm soooo not telling! I refuse to answer this question on the grounds I may incriminate myself.
Spoilsport :P

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My preference is stingy because for me it is more difficult.
Well you're incriminating yourself a little bit (self-incrimination is sexy! )

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I'm sorry you're not feeling well. I hope you're feeling better soon.
Thankyou-both for the well-wishes and the sexy responses


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:48:42 AM   
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I crave anything and everything he does to me no matter how much I absolutely hate the pain.
This contradiction is lovely

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His hands touching me in any way is a thrill for me.
I'm sensing a theme here-this ties in beautifully with what Aileen said above.

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There are days I think he could give the Devil a run for his money.
And are those days the good days or the bad days?

Thanks, littlewonder

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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 3:50:12 AM   
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I want to know about pain


It hurts.

You're welcome.

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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 7:52:41 AM   
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VC, I hope you feel better soon! Take good care of yourself.
1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?
My first experience with pain was with a switch who I primarily topped. He only hit me when, how, and where I told him to. ;) I started out with more of a sensation-play level, and it took a while to increase my pain tolerance.

2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'?
I'm kind of a wimp about my nipples, but most things can be done in a way I'll love or hate. The connection with the other person, and their reactions, matter more than the toy they used. I do particularly enjoy the sensation from fireplay, sensual caning, wrestling/playfighting, and having my hair pulled.

3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?
It depends on how they warm me up. Gentle ramp up, and I float. Starting out more intense, I need to focus on breathing and let the pain diffuse through my body. If a strike hits over bone or something, I go still for a few seconds and hold my breath while I process it. I warn people ahead of time about that, since I can't talk in order to safeword then. Generally I'm fine to keep going, but I ask that they keep it lighter until I relax. I've used the breathing/diffusion part at the doctor/dentist, and it works well for that kind of pain as well. If I am put in sensory deprivation while they are laying out the toys and stuff, the sensory overload when it comes off is enough to get me pretty warmed up, even if I haven't been touched yet.

4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?
I'm fine either way, but we generally haven't done a lot of planning or scripting.

5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?

I mostly prefer thud, but I adore single-tails, and "thuddy canes" which still have some sting to them. I can take a thinner, whippier one if I'm being double-caned with one that's more solid. It also depends on how warmed up I am, and how hard they use it. Once I'm flying, it takes a lot to bring me out of it. If I'm submissive to someone, I can take more pain sooner than if I'm not, and they're more likely to want to hurt me in ways I don't entirely like.

6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness.
At the moment, I'm only doing the thwacking. My playpartner reacts submissively to me, and we just haven't really been drawn to switching with each other. I let her do fireplay on me during a class, so she can do it to other people if she likes, and I'd be willing to basically "stunt bottom" for her in other classes. Doing a whole scene that way would feel a little weird. Previous partners have generally stayed on the lighter side, with a couple of sadists who enjoyed a much higher level of intensity. I've tended to play harder with casual partners in the past, since they had more experience and expertise with the specific things they were using on me.




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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 8:04:14 AM   
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1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?


I'm a masochist (and a sadist!)

quote:

2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)


Favorite.. sharpies (needles are best with knife play a close second). Least favorite.. um.. um.. I'll get back to you on that one. Can't think of anything right now.

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Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?


It depends - to get to subspace, I need a constant evolution of pain or I'm not going there. I don't need to process pain exactly, it's more .. hm.. like *give in* to it and just enjoy it while it's there until the endorphins kick in.. then, unfortunately, pain pretty much stops actually hurting.

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4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?


I'm a surprise me kinda gal. :D Himself takes *his* desires into account, not mine but if I ask for a pain session he's usually agreeable. Gotta love sadists. :D

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5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?


Stingy for sure. Thuddy just doesn't produce pain for me at all. Himself likes stingy for pain, too, so we're good on that one.

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6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness.


I rate him slightly under AAAAAAAARGH.. somewhere around Rat Bastid. ;P

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Obviously, don't feel you have to answer them aaaaall, but there will be virtual cookies for anyone who does


Where's my cookie?






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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 8:09:31 AM   
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Fabulous thread, VC!

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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 8:28:40 AM   
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VC, I hope you feel better soon! Take good care of yourself.
Thanks, Anda-I've just overestimated how active I can be recently, and my legs aren't too happy. They'll settle down soon, and in the meantime I have all these yummy responses to distract me :-)

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most things can be done in a way I'll love or hate. The connection with the other person, and their reactions, matter more than the toy they used.
I've seen you say these two things a few times. I've always thought 'what a wonderful attitude', but I've never felt like it was my place to say so-this is, however, MY THREAD, so I'm going to say it: yours is a wonderful attitude to have, IMO.

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If I am put in sensory deprivation while they are laying out the toys and stuff, the sensory overload when it comes off is enough to get me pretty warmed up, even if I haven't been touched yet.
*Ahem*, erm...yum. I don't have an intelligent comment to make. Just, erm. Yum.

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If I'm submissive to someone, I can take more pain sooner than if I'm not, and they're more likely to want to hurt me in ways I don't entirely like.
Again, yum. This thread is simultaneously making me happystupid and guaranteeing me a place in hell...


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 8:37:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Least favorite.. um.. um.. I'll get back to you on that one. Can't think of anything right now.
All-encompassing enthusiasm is a good thing-no need to get back to me!

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It depends - to get to subspace, I need a constant evolution of pain or I'm not going there.
That's interesting-I've not heard it put that way before. Does the level of pain you start at make a difference, or is the shift and evolution the important part?

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Gotta love sadists. :D
Gotta love masochists too :D


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I rate him slightly under AAAAAAAARGH.. somewhere around Rat Bastid. ;P
Hehe-an awesome place to be on the scale :D

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Where's my cookie?
Shit! I forgot-thanks for the reminder.

*Hands out virtual cookies to all the lovelies who answered, including laurell even though she's holding out on the self-incrimination, and two for Bita for reminding me*


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 8:42:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Fabulous thread, VC!
Why thankyou-it's more 'fabulous responses', though-they are doing all the work, we're getting all the gratification


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 9:03:09 AM   
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That's interesting-I've not heard it put that way before. Does the level of pain you start at make a difference, or is the shift and evolution the important part?


It doesn't really matter where it starts. He can start off fluffy bunny and building it into an absolute ass trashing and I can go into subspace from that. If he starts off in ass trash mode and it stays at that same level, most likely I won't go into subspace from that because rhythmic beating tends to get me too horny for me to reach subspace and I'll just have an orgasm instead.. which is not to say that's a bad thing or anything but it is the shift and evolution that enables my brain to tweak out and go woah... shut down and fly chickie. Say he starts off with a couple of hundred with the single tail on my ass then switches up with a nice cayenne pepper rub on my hamburger meat ass.. that's a recipe for subspace for me. Sticking with *just* the single tail is most likely going to have me begging to cum but not freak out my brain enough to drop off the edge into space. :D




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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 9:24:55 AM   
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Great thread, VC.  I'm almost tempted to answer for clip since he isn't able to do so just now.

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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 9:34:39 AM   
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Say he starts off with a couple of hundred with the single tail on my ass then switches up with a nice cayenne pepper rub on my hamburger meat ass.. that's a recipe for subspace for me. Sticking with *just* the single tail is most likely going to have me begging to cum
ImpossibleChoiceImpossibleChoiceImpossibleChoiceImpossibleChoice...:D

Thankyou for taking the time to elaborate for me :-)


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 9:36:18 AM   
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Great thread, VC.  I'm almost tempted to answer for clip since he isn't able to do so just now.
Thanks :D

And go for it! I'm sure you've got a pretty good idea of what goes on in his head


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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 9:38:57 AM   
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1) Are you a masochist yourself, or do/did you suffer through it because you've fallen for a sadist and the presence of pain in your dynamic is a consequence of that?

I discovered I was a masochist about 8 years ago. I started seeing a sadist, and thought I'd cope with the pain stuff in order to get the control I thought I wanted. Very quickly it became clear it was the other way round - pain is wonderful!

2) What's your favourite/least favourite form of painplay? Is there one particular toy/instrument/technique that you take one look at and go 'nonononononono' or 'pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease'? (For the purposes of this question let's pretend that a technique is something you can take a look at...)

Least favourite - paddle. Waaaaay too stingy! Love the aftereffects (the lingering pain, the bruises) and the fact it can propel me into subspace in no time flat.

Most favourite - violet wand. OMG -take me to heaven and back! I try to hold off from subspace just so I can have a little bit more :)



3) Are you one of those people who can just float away on top of the pain to a land of clouds and fluffy bunnies, or do you need to actively process the pain? If you need them, what sort of coping strategies have you developed? Do they work?

I need to process the pain - sort of 'go inside' myself and take as much as I can. It's a little like I was taught in tai chi when we were doing meditating. Find the 'golden ball of chi' inside me, focus on it, and then just be at one with it. Works at the dentist too, so I found out! And then this fluffy bunny floats off to the land of clouds and other fluffy bunnies

4) Do you like to know what (and how much of it) is coming, or do you prefer to just take it as it comes? Does/did your partner take this preference into account?

I don't want to know what is coming - just the thought that pain is on it's way is enough to arouse me. The 'not knowing' makes it all the more delicious All my previous partners knew what I enjoyed, and tended to include it in our play.


5) Your preference: stingy or thuddy? Does/did your partner take this preference into account? If so, do they take it into account in the nice way (you get what they know you like) or the eeeeevil way (you get what they know you hate)?

I prefer thuddy overall, but stingy is a close second. Ideally, a mix of both is wonderful! Again, my partners have taken this into account, although not necessarily in the 'nice' way...


6) On a scale of ouch to AAAAAAAAAARGH, rate your partner in terms of evilness.

I'll have to get back to you on that




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RE: Unashamed Trolling Take 2: The Painplay Version! - 6/25/2010 11:36:57 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

Most favourite - violet wand. OMG -take me to heaven and back! I try to hold off from subspace just so I can have a little bit more :)
How effectively can you hold off?

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I need to process the pain - sort of 'go inside' myself and take as much as I can. It's a little like I was taught in tai chi when we were doing meditating. Find the 'golden ball of chi' inside me, focus on it, and then just be at one with it. Works at the dentist too, so I found out! And then this fluffy bunny floats off to the land of clouds and other fluffy bunnies
I thought of you just after I wrote the fluffy bunny line :P

Out of interest, did you learn tai chi before or after you discovered your masochism? If it was after, did it affect how you received/processed pain?

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Now give me the damn cookie!!!!!


*places cookie in cleavage*
Come and get it, Bunny!


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