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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 4:24:51 PM

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I provided it and you told me you had no sound working on your computer.
I don’t see God because there is no such thing. Why don’t you prove a unicorn is real?
You can'tprove a lie. Not that you will watch or listen.

Not being able to see something does not prove that it does not exist. Science believes in many things that cannot be seen; first an foremost is the ATOM. Furthermore you can't see me right now, does that mean I don't exist.

At any rate what difference should it make to you whether another person believes in God OR Unicorns.......it has no effect on you whatsoever. Its their faith. If you choose to believe in nothing and it works for you that's fine. If a religious person chooses to believe in a higher power that's fine too. Your thinking is as bad as radical religions that think we should force everybody to worship God. You don't need to convert anyone because its none of your business what they believe.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 5:34:44 PM

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I don’t see God because there is no such thing. Why don’t you prove a unicorn is real?
You can'tprove a lie.

Oh please. The hyperbolic analogies get tiresome.

Let's turn this around for a minute. If I started a thread about my belief in unicorns, exactly how much time, energy, and effort would you invest trying to debunk my belief?

Or better yet, why would you start a thread in an effort to debunk the belief in unicorns?

If the concept of God is such a strong disbelief that it doesn't even qualify as a belief to most atheists, why are you all focusing so much time on it?

I come from a family of Italian Catholics on both my maternal and paternal side. My parents were both raised with religion, but I was not raised with religion. I have not raised my own child with religion either. I didn't even get married in a church. Why is it that I've managed to live my entire life (in an entire family of practicing Catholics) not having a problem with those who believe, and never having felt like it was being shoved down my throat? I see a church, like I notice a gas station on the street. It doesn't hurt me, it doesn't effect me...who gives a fuck why someone believes in God and what brought them to those beliefs? And why the fuck should they prove it to anyone?

Frankly I'd rather be around happy God believers who are at peace with who they are, than a bunch of disgruntled atheists who lose sleep over things like unicorns. What positive effect does this crusade have on your lives?

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 6:46:19 PM

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Someone clearly needs to get laid...

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:05:15 PM

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Someone clearly needs to get laid...

Shouldn't you be off handwashing your thong and thigh-highs right about now?

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:23:54 PM

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Now PA's got wood. Nice job.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:24:39 PM

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Who gives a fuck? I do because we need to stop believing in bullshit to advance as humans.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

I don’t see God because there is no such thing. Why don’t you prove a unicorn is real?
You can'tprove a lie.

Oh please. The hyperbolic analogies get tiresome.

Let's turn this around for a minute. If I started a thread about my belief in unicorns, exactly how much time, energy, and effort would you invest trying to debunk my belief?

Or better yet, why would you start a thread in an effort to debunk the belief in unicorns?

If the concept of God is such a strong disbelief that it doesn't even qualify as a belief to most atheists, why are you all focusing so much time on it?

I come from a family of Italian Catholics on both my maternal and paternal side. My parents were both raised with religion, but I was not raised with religion. I have not raised my own child with religion either. I didn't even get married in a church. Why is it that I've managed to live my entire life (in an entire family of practicing Catholics) not having a problem with those who believe, and never having felt like it was being shoved down my throat? I see a church, like I notice a gas station on the street. It doesn't hurt me, it doesn't effect me...who gives a fuck why someone believes in God and what brought them to those beliefs? And why the fuck should they prove it to anyone?

Frankly I'd rather be around happy God believers who are at peace with who they are, than a bunch of disgruntled atheists who lose sleep over things like unicorns. What positive effect does this crusade have on your lives?

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:26:02 PM

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It could be argued that if we followed the 10 commandments... ALL of us... and ALL of them.... we would advance as humans

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:32:38 PM

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I`m all about 5 through 10.

The 1st 4 are nobody`s F`n business, tho.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:33:12 PM

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It is a pretty simple formula.

BTW - The Bible say anything about 'Do Overs"?

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:37:39 PM

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Holy fuck I'm regretting this as I type it but....

I gotta know what are the human advancements you envision that we need to achieve and how does anyone's belief in a God inhibit them from happening?

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ORIGINAL: Brain

Who gives a fuck? I do because we need to stop believing in bullshit to advance as humans.

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ORIGINAL: marie2

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

I don’t see God because there is no such thing. Why don’t you prove a unicorn is real?
You can'tprove a lie.

Oh please. The hyperbolic analogies get tiresome.

Let's turn this around for a minute. If I started a thread about my belief in unicorns, exactly how much time, energy, and effort would you invest trying to debunk my belief?

Or better yet, why would you start a thread in an effort to debunk the belief in unicorns?

If the concept of God is such a strong disbelief that it doesn't even qualify as a belief to most atheists, why are you all focusing so much time on it?

I come from a family of Italian Catholics on both my maternal and paternal side. My parents were both raised with religion, but I was not raised with religion. I have not raised my own child with religion either. I didn't even get married in a church. Why is it that I've managed to live my entire life (in an entire family of practicing Catholics) not having a problem with those who believe, and never having felt like it was being shoved down my throat? I see a church, like I notice a gas station on the street. It doesn't hurt me, it doesn't effect me...who gives a fuck why someone believes in God and what brought them to those beliefs? And why the fuck should they prove it to anyone?

Frankly I'd rather be around happy God believers who are at peace with who they are, than a bunch of disgruntled atheists who lose sleep over things like unicorns. What positive effect does this crusade have on your lives?

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:39:20 PM

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I`m all about 5 through 10.

The 1st 4 are nobody`s F`n business, tho.

Hey... I was winging it.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:41:17 PM

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Below is a paragraph from a website which also shows the bible's recommendations for justice regarding breaking any of the 10 commandments. They would not, do not, and have never furthered society nor any part of the human race. However, Christianity has greatly served to hold the human race back and has also fostered hate towards our fellow man and been the root cause of many a war.
“Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”: There are many Christians and Jews who demand that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public institutions. In my opinion it is only fair that if the commandments are to be displayed, so should the penalties for breaking those commandments. Matter of fact they should be posted in its entirety so that society can see just what kind of crap these religions are feeding us. I also encourage those of you Judeo/Christians who visit here to print out this very list and post it where your children can see it. It’s time you explain to them what a murderous, unjust god you brainwash them into worshiping.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:44:28 PM

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Ok... after this I am hopping out.

People fuck up good ideas all the time.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the 10 commandments.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:45:01 PM

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Who gives a fuck? I do because we need to stop believing in bullshit to advance as humans.

So what you are saying is that you strongly believe in this, practice it and feel that others need to conform to your way of thinking right.......for the good of mankind, right

Religion: : a personal set or institutionalized system of attitudes, beliefs, and practicesarchaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

That would make your athieistic beliefs a RELIGION. The only difference is their belief is in God. Yours is in yourself. So in trying to defeat religion you have become it.

Way to go man.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:48:34 PM

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Ok... after this I am hopping out.

People fuck up good ideas all the time.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the 10 commandments.

That's not true, there's a hell of a lot inherently wrong with the first commandment. There's also a lot of shit wrong with the second one, too for that matter.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:52:15 PM

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Then there's that one about honoring your father and mother. What if your parents were abusive? Are you supposed to hang around even after you can leave and continue to suffer their abuse? That shit takes years and years of therapy to get over!

Lastly, you shouldn't drop a gauntlet and then run, that's a pussy move.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:54:50 PM

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Only if you take them individually. As part of the whole package they make sense....... but for the sake of argument... I will give you the first 4

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:55:39 PM

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You can honor your parents without being with them physically.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 7:57:02 PM

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Then there's that one about honoring your father and mother. What if your parents were abusive? Are you supposed to hang around even after you can leave and continue to suffer their abuse? That shit takes years and years of therapy to get over!

Lastly, you shouldn't drop a gauntlet and then run, that's a pussy move.

Ok.... but if everyones parents followed them, they would not be shitty parents.... thats kinda my point.

AS for the pussy move, I am not going to spend hours debating with people who are firmly intrenched.

Thats the psycho move.

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RE: Christ Wasnt Crucified: Scholar - 6/26/2010 8:02:45 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=PlayList&p=29D638BF1A659FD3&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo&feature=related

now, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there..
but on a serious note...who cares what others believe in as long as their belief isn't hurting others? it's none of anyone's concern what others believe if they aren't hurting others with their beliefs

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