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Hi LH,
It seems to me that you have been consorting with religious or spiritual nuts to have such a negative opinion only of religions and spirituality.
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A) WARS of every stripe through every century if not decade.
That has little to do with religion. There hopefully will always be wars, whatever the religions of people. Wars are often good and beneficient for our species.
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B) Suppression of even greater art through censorship.
I do not know about that. Can you provide examples?
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C) Missionary works that destroyed indigenous cultures.
That was probably because of the Jewish Old Testament, which is not Christian. What is rather quaint is that the destroyed indigenous cultures most often worshipped the same pagan god as the Jews, but that the Christians that destroyed those cultures did not realize that.
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D) Charitable works tied to religious messages. I'm thinking "Sit through the service. Then we'll give you dinner." Here in Denver, Missionaries of Charity (Mother Theresa's Order) "helps" AIDS sufferers in the most restrictive, inhumane way you can imagine. As a matter of fact, people have said they'd rather commit suicide.
In a long past thread on MT I have called that religious nut The Vulture of Calcutta. Yes, to suicide is better than to fall into the claws of a vulture.
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D) The killing of witches who were often healers, starting to use REAL medicinal knowledge.
I expect that also to be in the Jewish Old Testament? It is not Christian. Besides, rumor has it that the passage was mistranslated and that it actually spoke about poisoners of wells.
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F) Churches do not pay property taxes on their land. That is, non-believing taxpayers pay higher taxes so that church BUILDINGS are covered by police, fire, sewerage, etc. Estimates are at least 25% of LAND tax is exempted. Most businesses with Angelica in their name are owned by the Roman Catholic Church..... why should Angelica Dry-Cleaners not pay their property taxes just as Mom-n-Pop have done so for years?
Okay, let them pay taxes.
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G) Spirituality? What a waste of one's talents, believing that there's something out there? Live your life as if YOU are in charge of it, not some cosmic force like the zodiac. Spirituality makes one miss out on the BEST life has to offer, by keeping your head in the sand, performing mumbo-jumbo worthless rituals. Or worse, saying "Oh, I'm spiritual, not religious," when you really haven't thought about wtf that means. I have yet to have anyone give a real-life description of what makes them "spiritual." As defined, the word says "believing in another, other worldly realm. A belief in the super-natural." Sounds like hallucinations to me. And those are usually an indication of mental illness. Just sayin'
I have had major miracles happen to me, LH. (I might also and more accurately describe them as major disasters, one of them causing me to have 'died' - and yet I live.)
In any case, if you ever have read one of my pertinent posts, then you must recall that I have many times previously stated that the Divine facilitates our desires. Which means that yes, indeed, you are in charge of your life.
Spirituality can offer one the opportunity to make the most of life.
I have never advocated mumbo-jumbo rituals.
Hallucinations and mental illness? tsk, tsk.
So haven't you ever desired anything and been provided the opportunity to satisfy your desire? Like I know a woman who desired to have some rest. In the middle of the night she awoke and sat up in a strange bed and smashed her head against an overhead beam. She got the rest she so desperately desired: six weeks to recover from the concussion.
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H) Suppression of scientific advances and truth (a'la Galileo.) GREAT bumper sticker: "The last time religion ruled the world it was called the Dark Ages."
A similar quote: "We would be 1,500 years ahead if it hadn't been for the church dragging science back by its coattails and burning our best minds at the stake." (Catherine Fahringer - you can wiki her)
Christianity civilized and cultivated Europe. I have been told that there were quite a lot of inventions during the Dark Ages. And thanks to the Crusades the second millennium was jump started.
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