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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/14/2006 9:33:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The majority of pornography is made to entice heterosexual males. The advertising available is targeted towards the majority of pornography viewers and purchasers, which would, again, be heterosexual males.

We don't often see sub male fem dom porn, except when it is targeted towards males. Similarly, you will not often find homosexual female porn, nor homosexual male porn on a site such as this, which is still predominantly occupied by heterosexual males.

I'm not saying I agree with it. It is definitely a feminist issue. However, since I enjoy viewing heterosexual male porn as a bisexual female, I am less inclined to complain. Homosexual male porn does nothing for me. Homosexual female porn does nothing for me. So, heterosexual male-targeted porn is what I'm left with.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/14/2006 9:49:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

its simple....there are more straight male oriented porn sites than all others combined....so the adverts for those sites will tend to outnumber the others.
Collarme is in the business of selling space to people who wish to promote their product/service to an audience that self-defines as kinky, and most of those are in the business of making as much money as humanly possible as fast as humanly possible, and what is the best known way to do this.....pictures of naked college-aged women...it sells better than anytyhing else online, and it will also help you sell anything else better as well.
Why you ask?   because middle-aged white men are the largest consumers of porn out there, and they are also the demographic that controls the largest amount of cash, so if you want to get your hands on that money, you had best give them what they want. And what do middle-aged white men usually want....naked college girls.



I think Arpig put it best here.  The fact is somebody has to pay for collarme to stay in business and they can't afford to be too picky about who they accept advertising from.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/14/2006 10:53:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

I find it very interesting that, on a site such as Collarme, where there is such a highly articulated and defined focus on gender issues, the advertising predominantly portrays women as playthings for males. I would have thought, especially given the number of Dommes that frequent this site, that the advertising would be more balanced along gender lines. Why must I endure the sight of scantily clad cum hungry girls every time I log on to Collarme? I thought we had come further than that in the quest for female/male equality. Sadly, it seems that this is not the case.
Don't get me wrong... I'm not a prude, and I do understand the need for advertising on a site such as this, but where is the equity? Where are the ads for the gorgeous boys who would sell themselves for MY pleasure?
It seems patriarchy is alive and well even on Collarme and I despair at this ever changing even slightly while so little thought is going into the advertising images displayed on this site.


Ok... while I waited for others to post on this thread. All I have to say as a submissive... not  a Dom. I can see what you are saying here. I can see what others are saying too. But sense you posted..... I'll answer to you. I like to look at guys myself. Not just gals. I have no problems looking at a handsome female either. But it's always gals. I understand CM advertising to the the mob. And I can really understand what most others said on here about the advertising. I don't need to see anything homesexual..... or even a guy in bondage. But I agree it would be nice to see at least a few guys thrown up there to show this site is open to all those that would be interrested in what ever they are. It's not so much sexploitation of women... as much as I tihnk the guys are being left out.... LOL

TO answer another poster..... yep I look over there and see what new pics they're advertising as I wait for my firefox to load up so I can sign in. It's call having to deal with dial up... LOL...... But I personally like the new look to CM.... advertisements and all. I just would like to see a few guys over there as well. Shows that not only females are submissive or only men come on this site.

But this is only my own personal view on this subject..... not ment to  make others  feel how they think all wrong either.


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/14/2006 10:53:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wytchywoman

LMAO. Or as I said ealier in this thread...check eBay.  That is how my owner got me.

Ebay used to have this thing where they released real names, addresses, and phone numbers to ANYONE. I think they've stopped that practice unless it's between a buyer and seller.

At the time my owner found me though, he requested my info from eBay and they sent it. We were bidding on the same flogger and seems he wanted to know who the impudent bitch was who was bidding against him.

After many e-mails where I called him less than human, we are now very happy together. I should send eBay a thank you note for their horrible privacy policies.






Oh wow, lol i'm glad you clarified that wytchy, hehe was wondering a bit from your first post. Not sure how e-bay would react to an add to sell off a sub or slave
i've gotten alot of pretty good stuff off e-bay, never thought to go Dom shopping though *weg* 
oh well i guess not giving out personal information is a good thing *sighs*

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 1:48:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure if you're willing to pay for such ads, Collarme would be glad to run them.

Blaming Collarme for "the patriarchy" doesn't make much sense.  The patriarchy existed long before Collarme.

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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

Don't get me wrong... I'm not a prude, and I do understand the need for advertising on a site such as this, but where is the equity? Where are the ads for the gorgeous boys who would sell themselves for MY pleasure?

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 5:35:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wytchywoman

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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

Where are the ads for the gorgeous boys who would sell themselves for MY pleasure?



Try eBay. That is where my owner got me.



You mean to say the e-bay has sub/slaves advertised???  What's to going price?


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 5:46:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		So on a site where people are seeking relationships that are by definition inequitable you are seeking equity in porn advertising? Hehehehehe. That's cute.

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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

I find it very interesting that, on a site such as Collarme, where there is such a highly articulated and defined focus on gender issues, the advertising predominantly portrays women as playthings for males. I would have thought, especially given the number of Dommes that frequent this site, that the advertising would be more balanced along gender lines. Why must I endure the sight of scantily clad cum hungry girls every time I log on to Collarme? I thought we had come further than that in the quest for female/male equality. Sadly, it seems that this is not the case.
Don't get me wrong... I'm not a prude, and I do understand the need for advertising on a site such as this, but where is the equity? Where are the ads for the gorgeous boys who would sell themselves for MY pleasure?
It seems patriarchy is alive and well even on Collarme and I despair at this ever changing even slightly while so little thought is going into the advertising images displayed on this site.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 6:22:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		 It is interesting and I can see your point. I think it may have to do with the way men are raised? (generalization but maybe not all that untrue...I don't know).Maybe someone will send her pics that give her the impression they are "boy toys" sometime soon. I've seen messages on the boards from male subs like this. One responded to my very first post on these boards 2 weeks ago, I remember. Nice person, just sent a comforting note in passing on the boards. So they exist. There seem to be a lot of male subs around here - I have the impression someone will write. Maybe someone out there is breaking new ground and reading this as we speak and will write La Contessa soon (and maybe they should).

I am not sure that will be a general phenomenon that is going away soon, if it's been weeks and weeks and nobody is sending mail at all?  Put that request in a profile, maybe, and se what happens? Maybe ask someone who has mailed if they have pictures and see if that helps in getting to know them better?  

I think all bets are off as far as "gender role" expectations for a group of people this large on an "alternative life-styles" site where there are so many alternatives. I think there is someone out there for everyone and can understand why it might bother her a little.  I'm a submissive and when I do seek, I want to be seen as 'an object' (just an object with a brain that can be used for good things). There are people who will know what she is aiming for. Keep the faith, LaContessa. 

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 6:50:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

I find it very interesting that, on a site such as Collarme, where there is such a highly articulated and defined focus on gender issues, the advertising predominantly portrays women as playthings for males. I would have thought, especially given the number of Dommes that frequent this site, that the advertising would be more balanced along gender lines. Why must I endure the sight of scantily clad cum hungry girls every time I log on to Collarme?


It is human nature to widely turn females into sex objects, and it always will be. Males and females alike are the impetus of this exploitation. Forget the male-oriented mediums of entertainment; casually flip through any Cosmopolitan or Harper's Bazaar magazine (publications targeted for women) and you will find far more ads sexploiting the female.

Simply, it's natural and it's what sells.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 7:09:58 AM   
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The male audience spends the most money on porn and is the easiest target so that is who the ad people focus on.  The wannabes and HNG's that hang out around here make a pretty good target audience.  CollarMe sells space, the ad pepople buy it.  Reading anything else into the ad structure is ridiculous.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 7:13:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		sorry...but with the membership numbers on CM...I don't give a flea fart what an Ad is...as long as it keeps this site free for those who choose to come here...I for one give the site operators my best..as they've given theirs...to keep this site free and open....although sometimes I feel they allow to much BS to flood the posts...at least even in that...it's more open to those who use them.....fear of big brother watching your every step...has tempered the site..not censored it or it's content....

be thankful for what we have here...not complain for what we don't.....

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 7:15:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm embarassed to ask this but...there are ads here? With pictures? That I haven't noticed them yet means I'm either completely clueless or so used to seeing advertising on websites that it doesn't even register anymore. I'm not sure which I prefer to be the case. 

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 9:15:12 AM   
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Where are the ads for the gorgeous boys who would sell themselves for MY pleasure?



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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 9:39:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that you cannot blame CM for the status quo, or even really expect them to take a stand, when business and income are involved. If, as an individual you disagree with their practices, you should express yourself as the OP did, but after that, your only option is to leave, if you really can't stand it.
 
 But for those of you who say you simply don't care what is advertised, as long as the site remains free for you, I wonder where your limits would be?  What if CM started running ads for males for sale?  Or, maybe one political party decided that the BDSM folk were a great undiscovered bunch of voters and CM ran ads for only one political party?   What if some neo-nazi group decided to advertise here?  At what point would yourideals outweigh your desire for a free site?  And at what point would you expect CM  to take a stand?
 
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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 9:42:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those are good questions, and everyone's answer is going to be different.  All I can give you is my own answer, which is that my limit hasn't come close to being reached by the ads on this site.

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 But for those of you who say you simply don't care what is advertised, as long as the site remains free for you, I wonder where your limits would be?  What if CM started running ads for males for sale?  Or, maybe one political party decided that the BDSM folk were a great undiscovered bunch of voters and CM ran ads for only one political party?   What if some neo-nazi group decided to advertise here?  At what point would yourideals outweigh your desire for a free site?  And at what point would you expect CM  to take a stand?

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 10:17:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Smythe

I agree that you cannot blame CM for the status quo, or even really expect them to take a stand, when business and income are involved. If, as an individual you disagree with their practices, you should express yourself as the OP did, but after that, your only option is to leave, if you really can't stand it.
 
 But for those of you who say you simply don't care what is advertised, as long as the site remains free for you, I wonder where your limits would be?  What if CM started running ads for males for sale?  Or, maybe one political party decided that the BDSM folk were a great undiscovered bunch of voters and CM ran ads for only one political party?   What if some neo-nazi group decided to advertise here?  At what point would yourideals outweigh your desire for a free site?  And at what point would you expect CM  to take a stand?
 
Smythe


I'm willing to let the marketplace take care of that one. If CM decided to start promoting neo-nazi groups, I'd stop frequenting the site, as I'm sure a lot of other will. And if CM started running ads for males for sale, I'd be asking where I can sign myself up to be sold.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 10:50:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh for heavens sake, who cares? who even reads those things?  I'm sorry they are there, but I just ignore them, as I would if they were any other kinds of ads.  And the reason they are all WOMEN selling sex, is probably because it's the MEN who far outnumber the women in this lifestyle and are willing to pay.  And speaking of exploitation, I'm sorry, did I miss the notice that these women whose pictures are up there didn't do so willingly, and they are not getting paid to show off their luscious fake titties?  If you have a problem with it, take it up with THEM!

As far as I'm concerned, I'm just thankful that Collarme is a FREE site!!!  If you haven't noticed, many (all?) other sites such as this one charge $$$.  Heck, alt charges just to read full profiles, as well as to send emails and IMs.  As long as Collarme doesn't start putting up animals and watersports, I'm cool with whatever ads pay enough to enable them to keep this site FREE FOR US.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 10:52:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

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ORIGINAL: Smythe

I agree that you cannot blame CM for the status quo, or even really expect them to take a stand, when business and income are involved. If, as an individual you disagree with their practices, you should express yourself as the OP did, but after that, your only option is to leave, if you really can't stand it.
 
 But for those of you who say you simply don't care what is advertised, as long as the site remains free for you, I wonder where your limits would be?  What if CM started running ads for males for sale?  Or, maybe one political party decided that the BDSM folk were a great undiscovered bunch of voters and CM ran ads for only one political party?   What if some neo-nazi group decided to advertise here?  At what point would yourideals outweigh your desire for a free site?  And at what point would you expect CM  to take a stand?
 
Smythe


I'm willing to let the marketplace take care of that one. If CM decided to start promoting neo-nazi groups, I'd stop frequenting the site, as I'm sure a lot of other will. And if CM started running ads for males for sale, I'd be asking where I can sign myself up to be sold.



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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 11:00:16 AM   
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getting paid to show off their luscious fake titties


Well they have to pay off the loan for them somehow

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/15/2006 11:09:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KittenWithaTwist

The majority of pornography is made to entice heterosexual males. The advertising available is targeted towards the majority of pornography viewers and purchasers, which would, again, be heterosexual males.

We don't often see sub male fem dom porn, except when it is targeted towards males. Similarly, you will not often find homosexual female porn, nor homosexual male porn on a site such as this, which is still predominantly occupied by heterosexual males.

I'm not saying I agree with it. It is definitely a feminist issue.


I don't see it as a feminist issue as in 'Where Is My Porn?'

(not meaning to offend anyone, and I'm speaking generally )

I see it more as... men are (shock!) the ones who 'have to' pay for sex or porn or whatever, because, generally speaking, of the lack of women interested in a casual sexual partner compared to the numbers of men who want sex. It's just one of those numbers things. A result (ultimately, I think) of social differences in how people generally view women who have slept around vs. men who have slept around. Sorry, I'm stating the obvious probably.

So, I don't see it as a patriarchal society, men have it good issue... all those men with money in their pocket 'able to' pay for it... I feed sad for them that that's what they usually end up resorting to.


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