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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/16/2006 12:32:58 PM   
LokisBrat


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I love that this site is free.

I run this site strictly on Mozilla Firefox. The latest version includes ad-block software, so I don't ever even see ads such as those discussed here. 

I worked in radio years ago, and while I didn't always agree with the ads I had to make commercials out of, they paid the bills.

I didn't see anyone suggest it, (and I may have missed it )
but maybe you could message a Mod on the site and suggest the idea of making the ads a bit more "equal?"

Brat



I don't think the mods have anything to do with the ads.



True, but one always hopes that consumer feedback is passed along the chain of command!

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/16/2006 4:06:01 PM   
LaContessa


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/16/2006 4:11:32 PM   
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Oh ironbear... you ask Me about My level of education and blood line and YOU live in Queensland!! Haha... that's so rich. By the way is that sunburn on your neck, little man?


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/16/2006 4:15:54 PM   
JohnWarren


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Oh ironbear... you ask Me about My level of education and blood line and YOU live in Queensland!! Haha... that's so rich. By the way is that sunburn on your neck, little man?


Considering you raised the issue of breeding, I'd say his request was both reasonable and ... given your response, informative.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/16/2006 4:36:14 PM   
givemyall


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/17/2006 4:33:56 AM   
LaContessa


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Status: offline 		I know I'm going to get barred by the moderators anyway... so here goes. My original post was a valid observation on what I see as a total disregard for, not only Dommes but for all women who frequent this site (yes... even you, with your personally insulting messages, givemyall). I know that some of you understood what I was saying but the rest of you have just shown how truly rude and ignorant you are. I really hope Collarme remains "free", but quite frankly, I wouldn't have minded paying a small contribution to keep the cocksuckers out of view. Its not just a matter of allowing the market to decide... its what you choose to accept. Well, I don't accept it. I wish you all luck in your searches... god knows, some of you need it.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/17/2006 5:59:12 AM   
LostLenore


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Status: offline 		What irks me is not so much ads portraying females as cum sluts but the corresponding lack of images of women in control.  Granted, white males are the chief customers of companies that advertise on sites like this, but my impression is that most men involved in BDSM want to submit to a dominant female and/or be made into cum sluts themselves.  The ads don't reflect these predominant motivations of the target audience.  They may be generating sales, but ones of a feminist or homoerotic nature might do even better.  I believe it was Ghandi who said, "Be the change you want to see in the world."  If we are ever to overcome gender stereotypes and sexism, ads depicting women as inferior should not be the norm.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 4/18/2006 7:07:56 AM   
NeedToUseYou


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I know I'm going to get barred by the moderators anyway


So you realize your behaviour isn't acceptable. That's a start, big girls and boys then connect that thought to action, and repress their urges to be dickheads and bitches.


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 2:05:19 PM   
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What irks me is not so much ads portraying females as cum sluts but the corresponding lack of images of women in control.  


Nor do the ads portray any males as cum sluts, nor do they target the significant numbers of gay and bi men seeking male partners on this site...Not to mention the many lesbians on this site who are not looking to meet the "straight" women protrayed in these ads. I think the marketing ppl need to take a look at this and even things out a bit to more truly reflect the population on this site...it's not all dom men and sub women. Or, perhaps they just don't want to tap into a greater portion of the market share...too bad.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 2:19:53 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		Hmm... the ads I see are more regarding local dominant females looking for men to please them.  Maybe it's a regional thing.
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the sight of scantily clad cum hungry girls every time I log on to Collarme? 


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 2:46:10 PM   
crouchingtigress


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I certainly don't care what the ads show as long as it keeps the site free for us.


Ditto

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 3:01:20 PM   
CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: LaContessa

I know I'm going to get barred by the moderators anyway... so here goes. My original post was a valid observation on what I see as a total disregard for, not only Dommes but for all women who frequent this site (yes... even you, with your personally insulting messages, givemyall). I know that some of you understood what I was saying but the rest of you have just shown how truly rude and ignorant you are. I really hope Collarme remains "free", but quite frankly, I wouldn't have minded paying a small contribution to keep the cocksuckers out of view. Its not just a matter of allowing the market to decide... its what you choose to accept. Well, I don't accept it. I wish you all luck in your searches... god knows, some of you need it.


I am not sure how valid your complaint is though...whether you like it or not, there are more men that will pay for sexually-related material than there are women.  The owners of this site are simply engaging in what this country...Thank God...is so good at;  the free market.  And for the owners of this site...and any other American company...it IS about allowing the market to decide.

They have companies that come to them and want to pay to advertise on this site.  They accept the money and give the space to these companies.  Now, the fact that the majority of the companies willing to pony up the bucks to buy advertising space happen to be in the business of selling sex to men says little about the equality between the advertisers while it does speak volumes about the number of companies trying to sell sex to women who come to the owners of collarme and want to buy space.  Are they out there?  Maybe...but as someone else noted on another thread...how many women are all that interested in paying for the sexual services...of any sort be it phone sex, cam sex, used boxers or briefs...of males? 

Now...if it was ME offering the services...then I can see where there'd be a horde of females...

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 3:23:55 PM   
dvart


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I find it very interesting that, on a site such as Collarme, where there is such a highly articulated and defined focus on gender issues, the advertising predominantly portrays women as playthings for males. I would have thought, especially given the number of Dommes that frequent this site, that the advertising would be more balanced along gender lines. 

But I thought you Dommes got absolutely flooded with emails from willing Male Subs, so much so that you hardly had time to look at the adverts. Some of us potential Doms are probably a bit more desperate.

It's all to do with supply and demand.

I think it must be regionally based, because my right hand column is filled with implausibly attractive young women from the Berlin area. Now if any of them would like to get in touch my email is ..

(PS I assume LaContessa means you are a Domme, because you profile won't appear for some reason)

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 3:43:33 PM   
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What irks me is not so much ads portraying females as cum sluts but the corresponding lack of images of women in control.  


Nor do the ads portray any males as cum sluts,


Perhaps because the minute the price was mentioned, comparable to the price for the women "cumsluts", most of the femDoms would turn away from the ad?  Why should they pay for male submission when there are so many male subs willing to cough up the bucks either as "financial tribute" to the "NON-pro" femDoms or out and out "cash for services rendered" to the Pro femDoms? 
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nor do they target the significant numbers of gay and bi men seeking male partners on this site to the Not to mention the many lesbians on this site who are not looking to meet the "straight" women protrayed in these ads.


I will grant you that I have not seen many ads that would appeal to the gay or bi men.  I have seen several ads quite a few times for Pro femDoms looking for lesbian slaves/submissives.  In all honesty though, there must be SOME reason why Gay Male websites have decided not to advertise here.  I don't think it is a lack of resources as you can certainly see their ads on many other adult sites.  Perhaps it is because that, contrary to your statement, there are less gay and bi males here than you think and so, said gay male sites do not see much sense in spending their advertising dollar here?

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 I think the marketing ppl need to take a look at this and even things out a bit to more truly reflect the population on this site...it's not all dom men and sub women. Or, perhaps they just don't want to tap into a greater portion of the market share...too bad.
MNN


Seems to me that, despite the complaints...and there must be relatively few given this is the first time I have seen a thread on this type of subject since I joined...the marketing people are doing a pretty good job of selling space and keeping this site free.  And given the number of profiles of dominant women and submissive men on here, they must be managing to do something right by the majority of those people.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 4:38:45 PM   
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LMAO. Or as I said ealier in this thread...check eBay.  That is how my owner got me.

Ebay used to have this thing where they released real names, addresses, and phone numbers to ANYONE. I think they've stopped that practice unless it's between a buyer and seller.

At the time my owner found me though, he requested my info from eBay and they sent it. We were bidding on the same flogger and seems he wanted to know who the impudent bitch was who was bidding against him.

After many e-mails where I called him less than human, we are now very happy together. I should send eBay a thank you note for their horrible privacy policies.

Interesting, you think an actual bidding could happen for the sale of slaves?  I know it's generally best in the realm of fantasy but...has it been done on any level in the last ten years?

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 6:33:52 PM   
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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 7:15:39 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Bottom line, prodommes are a dime a dozen but prodoms are relatively unheard of.  I think it has something to do with it being harder for men to get laid than women but I could be wrong.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 7:30:36 PM   
Daddyslittlgirl


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Status: offline 		I have noticed that within the past week or so that the pics i am seeing have gotten a lot more explicit. They were a bit more tame in the past. I am not going to complain though as long as it keeps CM a free site.

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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 7:35:09 PM   
Eric8


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RE: Sexploitation of Women in Advertising on Collarme - 1/13/2007 8:17:40 PM   
BlackKnight


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Status: offline 		Alright, I like the scantily clad women,even if it is advertising, hell I click them to register that the adv brought me there to keep paying for collarme.
I understand your wanting your preferance, but I got mine, and I aint guna click a male.
In agreement with Creative's point, I'm sure collar me doesn't turn down a chance to make a buck," no we don't want your money."
Yeah right, so that leaves us with what?  Hmmm... lack of professionls needing advertising.  Now they're advertising what?
on a what site? Hmmmm.... dontcha think the advrtisors need to go to the next level? Let's show the most revealing pics to bring t
he dumb ones in, the demogaphic most likely to pay in, and make it look like their pay site is better than this free one.
H3ll, I'm going to agree with the gremlin, and take her point to the next level, and ask : Why the h3ll are we having this discussion here?
whatever-

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