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To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 10:42:33 AM   
submissivemale22


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im curious as to what kind of emotional response would be evoked if, upon reaching the age of maturity*, your child became interested in d/s?

would your sentiment in anyway vary based on factors such as gender/orientation (by this i mean, would you be more disappointed/ashamed in a submissive boy than, say, a dominant girl?

I realize that the majority of users will feel that their love is unconditional, that they just want happiness for their child, etc.... but im more interested in hearing from any dominant females who have alternative opinions. I'm not asking if you would love your child any less, or blame them in any way... im just curious how you would view it.

*Just to clarify... im talking about children 18+ arriving at the decision independent of any parental influence.


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 10:52:31 AM   
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I wonder about your wording...why would there be disappointment or shame about being a submissive male?  We are just as powerful, strong, and capable as the Dominant Women are.  As powerful, strong, and capable as -we- choose to be. 

"Submissive" does not equal "weak".


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:00:05 AM   
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I wonder about your wording...why would there be disappointment or shame about being a submissive male?  We are just as powerful, strong, and capable as the Dominant Women are.  As powerful, strong, and capable as -we- choose to be. 

"Submissive" does not equal "weak".



i wonder about your reading comprehension- beyond the fact that i clearly stated i was seeking the opinions of dominant females, i was just offering that permutation as an example.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:12:18 AM   
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Your "permutation" of reaction gave an impression of your position on submission vs. domination.  I questioned the wording because it was liable to garner reactions just like the one I had to it.

And it's an open forum - anyone here with a thought is likely gonna respond.


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:13:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

Your "permutation" of reaction gave an impression of your position on submission vs. domination.  I questioned the wording because it was liable to garner reactions just like the one I had to it.

And it's an open forum - anyone here with a thought is likely gonna respond.




He doesn't get that about CM, Otters. He wants to cherrypick opinions on all his threads. Oh well.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:15:13 AM   
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If you ask a question on a public forum you will get answers from who ever happens to feel like answering. Don't be a prick about it.

Now on to the question itself. Once my child is a legal adult she can persue any type of relationship she so wishes, that's her choice as an adult. It wont effect how I feel about her one way or the other.

I do second what OttersSwim says, submissive doesn't mean weak and you could have worded your question slightly better.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:19:30 AM   
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My 31yo son would benefit greatly from a compatible, mature, dominant woman in his life.

My 29yo daughter is growing dramatically as a dominant woman in her marriage.

Neither is kinky, as far as I know. I do not see personality traits as either a strength or weakness. I do not see a power exchange relationship or kinky fun as something to be concerned with.

I simply want my children to be happy and have successful relationships.


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:27:40 AM   
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If my children grow up to be happy, healthy, productive citizens whatever kink they might add to their lives would not matter to me; whether male or female, Dom/me or sub.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:28:24 AM   
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I've rolled with this Op before... But on this I get what he is asking it is pretty cut and dry.

As a Dominant Male, there is a possibility that I would be upset if my son became a submissive Male. If I had a Daughter knowing the kind of Bullshit that some Dominant Men call being Dominant I may not want her to be a submissive Female for fear that she may end up in a relationship where she is in fact abused rather than Dominated.

It is the same question as would you be upset if your child grew up and stated that they were Gay, I get the social stigma that the Op is discussing.

I do not believe that the Op thinks submissive means weak, he himself is submissive and although rough around the edges seems to be able to stick up for himself even when doing so gets him Moderated because of the way he chooses to do so.

All this being said, I am sure there are people who when it comes to the choices they made for themselves and the journey it took to get where they are if their offspring sought to choose a similar path they might not want to see them go through what they went through.

Personally I do not want my son to grow up and become a submissive Male, I don't WANT him to grow up as a Homosexual Male either, If he did I would accept him but I would have an internal issue with the decision he chose.

Personally I would Love it if my son stayed away from this lifestyle completely, that really isn't likely considering how involved his mother and I are in it. I would love to be able to save him the frustration, and the possible lonelyness that comes from having a reduced selection pool when it comes to having a partner, I would also want to save him from the social stigma that comes from being involved in an alternative lifestyle. The having to hide some part of who you are, the not being able to be accepted for the way you choose to express your love and desire to interact with your partner.

So in the end I get what the Op is asking, and althought I would accept my son no matter what choice he makes I would not like him to make certain decisions. I will not try to program him to make certain decisions, I won't try to create an overly masculine testosterone laden life just in hopes he won't be Gay, I don't believe it would work anyway cause if he is going to be gay he will be gay, Just like I won't push for him to controling of others, I will do my best to teach him self control, but his decisions will be his own.

This is actually a good question. Thanks Op for the Mental Journey.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:28:45 AM   
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I want my children to be happy. I could care less whether they are kinky. Actually, their sex lives are none of my business.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:34:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I want my children to be happy. I could care less whether they are kinky. Actually, their sex lives are none of my business.


Short, sweet and to the point :)

As long as my child grows up to be happy, healthy and safe what she does with her personal life is none of my never mind.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:39:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

I wonder about your wording...why would there be disappointment or shame about being a submissive male?  We are just as powerful, strong, and capable as the Dominant Women are.  As powerful, strong, and capable as -we- choose to be. 

"Submissive" does not equal "weak".




This. ^

Happy now, OP?


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:39:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I've rolled with this Op before... But on this I get what he is asking it is pretty cut and dry.

As a Dominant Male, there is a possibility that I would be upset if my son became a submissive Male. If I had a Daughter knowing the kind of Bullshit that some Dominant Men call being Dominant I may not want her to be a submissive Female for fear that she may end up in a relationship where she is in fact abused rather than Dominated.

It is the same question as would you be upset if your child grew up and stated that they were Gay, I get the social stigma that the Op is discussing.

I do not believe that the Op thinks submissive means weak, he himself is submissive and although rough around the edges seems to be able to stick up for himself even when doing so gets him Moderated because of the way he chooses to do so.

All this being said, I am sure there are people who when it comes to the choices they made for themselves and the journey it took to get where they are if their offspring sought to choose a similar path they might not want to see them go through what they went through.

Personally I do not want my son to grow up and become a submissive Male, I don't WANT him to grow up as a Homosexual Male either, If he did I would accept him but I would have an internal issue with the decision he chose.

Personally I would Love it if my son stayed away from this lifestyle completely, that really isn't likely considering how involved his mother and I are in it. I would love to be able to save him the frustration, and the possible lonelyness that comes from having a reduced selection pool when it comes to having a partner, I would also want to save him from the social stigma that comes from being involved in an alternative lifestyle. The having to hide some part of who you are, the not being able to be accepted for the way you choose to express your love and desire to interact with your partner.

So in the end I get what the Op is asking, and althought I would accept my son no matter what choice he makes I would not like him to make certain decisions. I will not try to program him to make certain decisions, I won't try to create an overly masculine testosterone laden life just in hopes he won't be Gay, I don't believe it would work anyway cause if he is going to be gay he will be gay, Just like I won't push for him to controling of others, I will do my best to teach him self control, but his decisions will be his own.

This is actually a good question. Thanks Op for the Mental Journey.

QSM


Excellent post. Your honesty and willing to say things that others might deem politically incorrect earns you my respect and appreciation.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:44:21 AM   
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Except..........no one chooses to be gay and no one chooses to be submissive.

It's just one of those things you either are or not. If my son were gay or submissive I would want him to live a life in which he chose to live his authentic life. Not pretending to be straight or dominant because he thought I, or anyone else, expected that of him. Or god forbid, that he thought I would be disappointed in him or think less of him!


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:44:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: childoftheshadow


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I want my children to be happy. I could care less whether they are kinky. Actually, their sex lives are none of my business.


Short, sweet and to the point :)

As long as my child grows up to be happy, healthy and safe what she does with her personal life is none of my never mind.


You don't think their potential for happiness could ultimately be dictated by personal choices?

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:45:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Except..........no one chooses to be gay and no one chooses to be submissive.

It's just one of those things you either are or not. If my son were gay or submissive I would want him to live a life in which he chose to live his authentic life. Not pretending to be straight or dominant because he thought I, or anyone else, expected that of him. Or god forbid, that he thought I would be disappointed in him or think less of him!



You need not be disappointed in him to be disappointed for him.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:46:25 AM   
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All of us affect our lives by the choices we make. Relationship issues are but a small part of that.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:46:51 AM   
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I would hope my kids are raised to be true to themselves and follow their hearts.

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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:47:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Except..........no one chooses to be gay and no one chooses to be submissive.

It's just one of those things you either are or not. If my son were gay or submissive I would want him to live a life in which he chose to live his authentic life. Not pretending to be straight or dominant because he thought I, or anyone else, expected that of him. Or god forbid, that he thought I would be disappointed in him or think less of him!



You need not be disappointed in him to be disappointed for him.


Give me one good reason, why on earth I would be either.


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RE: To those of you who have children.... - 7/6/2010 11:48:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

im curious as to what kind of emotional response would be evoked if, upon reaching the age of maturity*, your child became interested in d/s?

would your sentiment in anyway vary based on factors such as gender/orientation (by this i mean, would you be more disappointed/ashamed in a submissive boy than, say, a dominant girl?

I realize that the majority of users will feel that their love is unconditional, that they just want happiness for their child, etc.... but im more interested in hearing from any dominant females who have alternative opinions. I'm not asking if you would love your child any less, or blame them in any way... im just curious how you would view it.

*Just to clarify... im talking about children 18+ arriving at the decision independent of any parental influence.



Please see the bolded portion.

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