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thishereboi -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 2:00:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella It's not hypocritical - we didn't put any men on the front when we decimated Nagasaki. It's not hypocritical that Ted "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" Nugent pussied out of going to Vietnam? How long ago did he "pussy" out of Vietnam and when did he make the statement about Bush? Now I am sure you hold the same exact political beliefs that you did 30-40 years ago, but a lot of people grow. Not always in the right direction, but there is usually some changes.

Moonhead -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 2:09:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella It's not hypocritical - we didn't put any men on the front when we decimated Nagasaki. It's not hypocritical that Ted "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" Nugent pussied out of going to Vietnam? How long ago did he "pussy" out of Vietnam and when did he make the statement about Bush? Now I am sure you hold the same exact political beliefs that you did 30-40 years ago, but a lot of people grow. Not always in the right direction, but there is usually some changes. What, like there was between Ronald Reagan's time as governor of California and his death, you mean?

Sanity -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 2:36:28 PM)
Quite. How old was Lewinsky again? quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide.

mnottertail -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 2:38:31 PM)
age of majority and another decade, give or take.

Moonhead -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 2:40:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail age of majority. There'd have been complaints about a lot more than Clinton getting his dick sucked if the LibDems had been employing underaged interns, I suspect.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:05:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Quite. How old was Lewinsky again? quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide. 21...also beyond the age of consent.

Jeffff -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:11:45 PM)
Comparing what a rock star does , to what a sitting President does is nonsensical. Whether that President is Eisenhower or Nixon or Clinton. More is expected of a President.

Sanity -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:13:23 PM)
Good point. quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Comparing what a rock star does , to what a sitting President does is nonsensical. Whether that President is Eisenhower or Nixon or Clinton. More is expected of a President.

rulemylife -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:24:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife It's not hypocritical that Ted "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" Nugent pussied out of going to Vietnam? How long ago did he "pussy" out of Vietnam and when did he make the statement about Bush? Now I am sure you hold the same exact political beliefs that you did 30-40 years ago, but a lot of people grow. Not always in the right direction, but there is usually some changes. Really? He grew? Now from my perspective if I had admittedly dodged the draft I would not "grow" by proclaiming the cowardice of others. For Uncle Ted I don't even think the term chickenhawk fits, as he has managed to disgrace himself well beyond that.

rulemylife -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:42:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub I reckon not. Why you do the "" around reckon? You trying to tell me I don't speak proper or something? eta I reckon now that you are saying took a toll on his career instead of ruined it, we are in total agreement. Reckon you'll sleep good tonight knowing that huh? I guess what we are arguing about is how we each define ruined. You can't argue that his career was all but dead for a long time. Yes he did rebuild it to a certain degree but he never regained the level of popularity he had in the '50's. So in that sense it was ruined.

juliaoceania -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 3:43:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Comparing what a rock star does , to what a sitting President does is nonsensical. Whether that President is Eisenhower or Nixon or Clinton. More is expected of a President. Which is why they should get all the blow jobs they can handle... we expect so much of them, it is the least we can do

AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 4:23:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Comparing what a rock star does , to what a sitting President does is nonsensical. Whether that President is Eisenhower or Nixon or Clinton. More is expected of a President. Which is why they should get all the blow jobs they can handle... we expect so much of them, it is the least we can do I actually agree with this. If you are the president of this country you should have your own Harem... Most other Country Officials and Leaders do... It was funny to hear how badly they though we as a country were to make a joke of our leader just because he got a blowjob. QSM

Owner59 -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 7:53:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 And by republican officials,elected and appointed. I understand if this tread might get pulled. But I still have to ask. Why is this man given any credibility and or attention? http://www.spin.com/articles/rock-n-roll-hall-sleaze " Ted Nugent Madman; carnivore Best described as: Maniacal Claim to eternal infamy: Though best known today as a guy who'd rather be bow-hunting, the Nuge cut a wide swath through the untamed pubic hair of the 1970s. His crowning achievement occurred in 1978, when Nugent became the legal guardian of a 17-year-old Hawaiian girl" http://www.activemusician.com/Ted-Nugent-Biography--t8i2885 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent And I have to ask why you are such an asshole? I have no idea what the relationship has been. Why do you assume the worst? Is that what women mean to you? I honestly do not fucking care what their relaitonship has been. It has been 32 years. If she did not like it she could have spoken out. (It takes about 7 years for someone in a domestic violence situation.) She had time. If this is some angst over the Roman Polanski thing, I am sorry. But bringing up something that happened over 32 years ago to a girl that is about 50 now. . . is just fucked up. Find your absolution somewhere else. What you`re saying is that you`d have no problem sending your 17 y/o daughter(or someone else`s minor)to sleep with a 30 year old man. Did I get that correct? The Polanski thing was quite a trip.lol How many did you take to get there?

Owner59 -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:02:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Quite. How old was Lewinsky again? quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide. Now what you`re saying is that b/c Clinton`s blowjob was wrong,ted is also wrong for fucking someone almost half is age. I always said Clintons b/j was wrong. Thanx for admitting the same about your uncle teddy. I don`t think age gap relationships are all that spicy anymore. Sleeping with minors is still a no no,tho. As far as the length of time that`s transpired,some 30 years. Weren`t you cons recently hammering the late Sen.Byrd for something that happened more than fifty years ago? Boy, that took guts.Hammering a dead guy. And didn`t Byrd show contrition over what he did? Uncle teddy remains un-apologetic.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:33:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Quite. How old was Lewinsky again? quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide. Now what you`re saying is that b/c Clinton`s blowjob was wrong,ted is also wrong for fucking someone almost half is age. I always said Clintons b/j was wrong. Thanx for admitting the same about your uncle teddy. I don`t think age gap relationships are all that spicy anymore. Sleeping with minors is still a no no.tho. And, as has been repeated many times, 17 was not considered a minor in Hawaii...in fact the age of consent was 14.

Owner59 -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:41:33 PM)
Then why did uncle teddy "adopt" her? Taking legal custody. Please explain the need for that,professor. You cons are really loosing it here. As far as the length of time that`s transpired,some 30 years. Weren`t you cons recently hammering the late Sen.Byrd for something that happened more than fifty years ago? Boy, that took guts.Hammering a dead guy. And didn`t Byrd show contrition over what he did? Uncle teddy remains un-apologetic.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:52:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Then why did uncle teddy "adopt" her? Taking legal custody. Please explain the need for that,professor. LMAO. If you bothered to read the thread you would see that I have asked that question 2 or 3 times. The story makes no sense on its face. Until someone explains how taking custody would change the legal situation, I dont buy it.

Elisabella -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:56:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy LMAO. If you bothered to read the thread you would see that I have asked that question 2 or 3 times. The story makes no sense on its face. Until someone explains how taking custody would change the legal situation, I dont buy it. Marriage is a legal contract, thus most states require people to be 18 years old to enter into it. Sex is not a legal contract, and ages for sexual consent vary by state.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 8:59:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy LMAO. If you bothered to read the thread you would see that I have asked that question 2 or 3 times. The story makes no sense on its face. Until someone explains how taking custody would change the legal situation, I dont buy it. Marriage is a legal contract, thus most states require people to be 18 years old to enter into it. Sex is not a legal contract, and ages for sexual consent vary by state. Which of course says nothing about TN taking legal custody supposedly for the purpose of being able to sleep with "a minor", who wasnt a minor for purposes of consent/statutory rape, and if she was, legal custody wouldnt permit it anyway. Incest laws apply to step/guardianship relationships exactly as they do to biological relatives in most states. In fact taking legal custody would expose him to MORE legal risk than just doing her.

Elisabella -> RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media? (7/8/2010 9:01:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Which of course says nothing about TN taking legal custody supposedly for the purpose of being able to sleep with "a minor", who wasnt a minor, and if she was, legal custody wouldnt permit it anyway. Incest laws apply to step/guardianship relationships exactly as they do to biological relatives in most states. From his wiki article: In 1978, Nugent began a now-infamous relationship with a seventeen-year-old Hawaii native named Pele Massa. Due to the age difference between him and Massa, Nugent could not marry the young woman; so he instead asked Pele's parents if he could be her legal guardian. It appears the guardianship was a form of quasi-marriage, not a way to be able to legally have sex with her. He was already able to legally have sex with her.

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