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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Perhaps the change that Obama was, was not the change he was thought to be. Though a president of a major country, he is only a human just like everyone else and as a human finds the same problems as everyone else, quite possibly even what Obama thought himself has become something different as looking in is very different from actually being there.

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

Sparking the concern of Russian diplomats over the growing totalitarian bent of the Obama government is the planned reintroduction of what these reports call one of the most draconian laws ever introduced in a free society that is titled “The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act”.

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/new-obama-law-warned-will-jail-500000-americans/

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Perhaps the change that Obama was, was not the change he was thought to be. Though a president of a major country, he is only a human just like everyone else and as a human finds the same problems as everyone else, quite possibly even what Obama thought himself has become something different as looking in is very different from actually being there.

he is not the president of a country he is the president of a major corporation under the united States of America.

see the articles of confederation if you do not believe the US Code

TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002
§ 3002.
Definitions

SNIP

(14) “State” means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.

(15) “United States” means— (A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States. (16) “United States marshal” means a United States marshal, a deputy marshal, or an official of the United States Marshals Service designated under section 564. .

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Perhaps the change that Obama was, was not the change he was thought to be. Though a president of a major country, he is only a human just like everyone else and as a human finds the same problems as everyone else, quite possibly even what Obama thought himself has become something different as looking in is very different from actually being there.

he is not the president of a country he is the president of a major corporation under the united States of America.

see the articles of confederation if you do not believe the US Code

TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002
§ 3002.
Definitions

SNIP

(14) “State” means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.

(15) “United States” means— (A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States. (16) “United States marshal” means a United States marshal, a deputy marshal, or an official of the United States Marshals Service designated under section 564. .

ROFLMAO. You dont have a clue about construction of legal documents, do you?

That doesnt say that the United States IS a corporation, it says that for purposes of this statute United States INCLUDES corporations formed under its jurisdiction.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

lol, and realZero, my constitution has the paragraph obliterated where it outlawed anything but gold and silver, perhaps you could loan me yours, the one signed by Bozo the Clown, and the Hamburgler.  

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

that is the most fucking stupid shit you have posted to date.  check it out, it even contradicts your own fucked up view!!!!!

nowhere does the constitution say: dear mr guv we grant you the authority to stamp worthless gold and silver into money.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

LOL

Did I toss another wrench into your world?

Lets see your constitution LMAO

See ron in the constitution the guv only has legitmate authority GRANTED to it.

That means it has to say.

Dear mister guv - we the people grant you the authority to print worthless paper for our money.

It does not say they have the authority therefore they have no authority.

on the other hand people have the authority to claim any right we want as long we do not trample on someone elses rights.

thats just the way it works sorry

we are not canada  (yet)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was so nice on the boards while real was gone.  I was just beginning to believe that we had somehow earned grace and the good Lord removed him from our presence.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was so nice on the boards while real was gone.  I was just beginning to believe that we had somehow earned grace and the good Lord removed him from our presence.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Perhaps the change that Obama was, was not the change he was thought to be. Though a president of a major country, he is only a human just like everyone else and as a human finds the same problems as everyone else, quite possibly even what Obama thought himself has become something different as looking in is very different from actually being there. Could it be Obama is now in with and up against the establishment, he is the new interloper to be kept under control, a case of work with us and survive or against us we will find the ways to destroy you.

The establishment exists in every political regime, the way it was always done and the interests of old maintained, it is the natural order for many, change is something that makes the establishment nervous and they, whoever they are want to maintain their status quo or else why be there.

I see it as though never mind who is the people's figurehead, it is the behind the scenes faceless faces that hold the real power, the bureacratic machine.

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ORIGINAL: Nineveh

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Lets hope Congress keeps this guy under control. This guy actually wants to declare American citizens the enemy, and surrender to radical Islam. There is no doubt that we will be withdrawing from Iraq,

Wasn't that one of his campagn promises?

which in itself may have disastrous consequences, but now he has announced plans that he intends to withdraw from Afghanistan by a certain date which is telling the Taliban, that all they have to do is wait, and we will be gone.

Wasn't that another one of his campagn promises?


This guy should be impeached for Treason for aiding and abetting the enemy. He also divulged state secrets to the Russians and gave them classified information as to how many nukes we had and where they were located.

You mean the russians did not know where they were? How did you find out that their satellites were not working?

The way I understood his campaign promises they included pulling out of Iraq and focusing harder on Afghanistan.  I'll be pretty shocked if he announces a withdrawal date for Afghanistan, but in a good way.

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ORIGINAL: jin99

American domestic terrorists already shot two guards to death in the Holocaust museum and assassinated an abortion clinic. Barack Obama receives 1,200 death threats per day, as compared to Bush's 400. Either Obama is 3 times more popular, or much of that is race-motivated.

The withdraw was decided after 2 things. 1. The majority of the American people no longer wanted to fight this war and withdrew their mandate by electing a president who promised to end it 2. The democratically elected Iraqi government told Bush through the US ambassador that they want the US to leave their soil, on a clearly defined time table, published in the immediate future and to leave no later than 2010 or so--and Bush agreed. Unless you want to flout the will of the legitimate Iraqi government, you must leave. The war, in case you have not noticed, had been won if victory is defined by the destruction of Al-Qaeda forces in Iraq. It is dead. The rest of the sectarian stuff does not concern the US. If the Iraq government need help, the US had already given them the number to call--if there is need, the US forces will be recalled on the initiative of the Iraqi state.

In case you have not noticed, too, the war in Afghanistan's withdraw time table is subject to change if there is a need-to, as Robert Gates briefed the Congress. Obama is not one to stick to a deadline if the job isn't done. Such as the stimulus plan and health care reform.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
I'm curious to know why you didn't include the possibility that Obama is 3 times more unpopular than Bush as a reason he receives 1,200 death threats per day compared to Bush's 400. Kool-aid impaired?

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The vote was 52% vs 46%, so only a 6% majority of Americans elected Obama. According to your own opinion, in case you didn't realize it, the war in Iraq was over BEFORE Obama took office. Funny, I don't recall ever hearing Obama, anyone in his adminstration, or any Obamabot crediting Bush with winning the war in Iraq.

Also in case you haven't noticed, Obama's approval rating is now below 40% even according to center/center-left polls/surveys and 60% believe he is taking the country in the wrong direction. Such is we the people's opinion of his stimulus plan and health care reform, and everything else.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Obama's approval rating is now below 40%

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

he is not the president of a country he is the president of a major corporation under the united States of America.

see the articles of confederation if you do not believe the US Code

TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002
§ 3002.
Definitions

SNIP

(14) “State” means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.

(15) “United States” means— (A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States. (16) “United States marshal” means a United States marshal, a deputy marshal, or an official of the United States Marshals Service designated under section 564. .

ROFLMAO. You dont have a clue about construction of legal documents, do you?

That doesnt say that the United States IS a corporation, it says that for purposes of this statute United States INCLUDES corporations formed under its jurisdiction.