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Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:08:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
As you know, the fastest way to get people's backs up around here is to tell them that they shouldn't post in a thread due to their sex/ orientation.


True enough.




BentUnit -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:11:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

You aren't getting it. You are being seriously Dense.

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It was mostly all jest and a friendly game of "cat and mouse" giving me some much needed exercise at trying to come up with decent comebacks in an obtuse and exorbitant manner.

Maybe it's just me, but I really enjoy picking on people that way... especially when I end up winning.


Do you not get that she did not LIKE what you were saying, she just didn't REACT to what you were saying. She found what you had to say Obtuse and Exorbitantly Mannered..... Do you think these are GOOD things?

What you Implied to her, when you said she was basically an Idiot for going to another country for a Master was SO OUT OF LINE. You just don't get it.

You really are Vapid.... this is also not a compliment, look it up.... Just because she didn't get a rise out of you DOES NOT MAKE WHAT YOU DID OKAY.

If you cannot get this then there has been no rehibilitation, all this nice shit is Bullshit, and you deserve far more than 60 days. You should leave... and the fact that someone has to point this out to you is a sign of your inability to tell the difference between acceptable and unacceptable.

QSM


we will put you in the (Majority) camp of posters who do not wish for me to stay. thank you for your contribution to this thread.


Fixed that for you.




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:13:23 AM)

Okay We can make this VERY simple.

Is there ANYONE who wants him to stay?

and I mean ANYONE.

Is there ANYONE here who thinks this guy deserves another chance?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

QSM.

Apparently those who just want him to GO are in the Minority camp.





LadyPact -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:18:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
to be honest before last week i thought/assumed that the SM part of BDSM stood for "slave master"...

as far as my comments on it, i apologized and stopped doing it. prior to coming here i had never ever encountered someone who identified as a sadist... i didnt know what it was and i found it abhorrent because i could conceptualize anyone subjecting themselves to that (or wanting to administer that). if it didnt interest you, and your initial exposure to it was on an internet board, i think you might have reacted just as vociferously as i did.

Are you kidding Me?  Now you're going to call ignorance?  You posted a thread less than 48 hours ago regarding Judge Mathis going on in various clips about "woman beaters".  This was well after discussions were held specifically addressing Dominance and sadism. 

You couldn't be more full of shit if it was coming out of your ears.




Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:20:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Okay We can make this VERY simple.

Is there ANYONE who wants him to stay?

and I mean ANYONE.

Is there ANYONE here who thinks this guy deserves another chance?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

QSM.

Apparently those who just want him to GO are in the Minority camp.




I don't care either way. I don't think he should be banned and I'm not going to encourage him to stay.

If you want him to go away though you can use the ignore button.




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:21:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.

I gotta call bullshit on this. I saw submale's posts on moderation just a week ago, then they came through immediately for a few days, now they are on mod again. Does it really count as "no warning" when someone just off moderation breaks TOS again??




here is what i got banned for:

It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.

Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:23:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
to be honest before last week i thought/assumed that the SM part of BDSM stood for "slave master"...

as far as my comments on it, i apologized and stopped doing it. prior to coming here i had never ever encountered someone who identified as a sadist... i didnt know what it was and i found it abhorrent because i could conceptualize anyone subjecting themselves to that (or wanting to administer that). if it didnt interest you, and your initial exposure to it was on an internet board, i think you might have reacted just as vociferously as i did.

Are you kidding Me?  Now you're going to call ignorance?  You posted a thread less than 48 hours ago regarding Judge Mathis going on in various clips about "woman beaters".  This was well after discussions were held specifically addressing Dominance and sadism. 

You couldn't be more full of shit if it was coming out of your ears.



that was off topic though... that is one of my favorite videos and i was just sharing it.




Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:25:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

here is what i got banned for:

It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.

Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.


Serious question - if I were to say you probably got banned because nobody likes you, would that make it easier to deal with?




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:26:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.

I gotta call bullshit on this. I saw submale's posts on moderation just a week ago, then they came through immediately for a few days, now they are on mod again. Does it really count as "no warning" when someone just off moderation breaks TOS again??




here is what i got banned for:

It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.

Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.


Actually, the more i think about it, we are arguing the wrong point here:

yes, i concede that i was acting immaturely at times and even posting irresponsibly (though i contend that i did contribute), but the reality is that this is a doped up charge. my initial appeal was on the wrong grounds- if justice prevails i should walk on this.




Rule -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:30:00 AM)

Um, could you please not be lazy and please edit your long quotes into pertinent short quotes?

Edited to add: that goes for other posters as well, please.




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:30:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

here is what i got banned for:

It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.

Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.


Serious question - if I were to say you probably got banned because nobody likes you, would that make it easier to deal with?


in many ways, yes. i suspected the whole time that i was being treated comparatively poor to other users. and im not even saying that i didnt deserve to be banned- there were things that i did which warranted this outcome. but, for me to get a two month ban for this...

anyways, to answer your question, yeah. i really dont want to be on a forum that im not welcome on.




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:30:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Okay We can make this VERY simple.

Is there ANYONE who wants him to stay?

and I mean ANYONE.

Is there ANYONE here who thinks this guy deserves another chance?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

QSM.

Apparently those who just want him to GO are in the Minority camp.




I don't care either way. I don't think he should be banned and I'm not going to encourage him to stay.

If you want him to go away though you can use the ignore button.


Elisabella,

I get what you are saying I really do, I can ignore anyone I choose and I choose not to ignore people. If he stays, I will still not ignore him, The fact that he really doesn't get why he was Moderated, why what he says is offensive, and unacceptable, and now that he has even admitted he has no idea what this lifestyle is even about ... He though SM ment slave master, I mean he is trying to have an opinion without a basic understanding of the dynamic and telling people they are abusive.

I don't care what the site chooses to do with him, I just hope that somewhere in side this whole circus he gets the idea that MAYBE before he goes about calling himself a PART of the lifestyle he might wanna know just what that means??

I agree that telling him what he can and cannot do is silly especially when we are telling him TO do what we just told him NOT to do. I also think that it is okay not to like someone.... in this case he honestly thinks that the way he continues to treat people, things he says, which in the way he says them violate at the very most TOS at the very least good taste..... I am not asking for an Off with his head moment... in fact a post or so back I sais that many his moderation should be redisucssed and possible lessened..... but then he came back with the idea that what he said to Ishtarr was fine because she didn't react to it the way others did.

QSM




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:31:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

Um, could you please not be lazy and please edit your long quotes into pertinent short quotes?


Im not allowed to edit. The only pertinent part though was the immediately preceding quote.




Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:31:19 AM)

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if justice prevails i should walk on this.


Who will play the jury?




LadyPact -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:33:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
that was off topic though... that is one of my favorite videos and i was just sharing it.

What section you posted it has little to do with it.  The same goes with the "Hostel" thread.  According to TOS, I'm not permitted to reference your other threads.




Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:33:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Elisabella,

I get what you are saying I really do, I can ignore anyone I choose and I choose not to ignore people. If he stays, I will still not ignore him, The fact that he really doesn't get why he was Moderated, why what he says is offensive, and unacceptable, and now that he has even admitted he has no idea what this lifestyle is even about ... He though SM ment slave master, I mean he is trying to have an opinion without a basic understanding of the dynamic and telling people they are abusive.

I don't care what the site chooses to do with him, I just hope that somewhere in side this whole circus he gets the idea that MAYBE before he goes about calling himself a PART of the lifestyle he might wanna know just what that means??

I agree that telling him what he can and cannot do is silly especially when we are telling him TO do what we just told him NOT to do. I also think that it is okay not to like someone.... in this case he honestly thinks that the way he continues to treat people, things he says, which in the way he says them violate at the very most TOS at the very least good taste..... I am not asking for an Off with his head moment... in fact a post or so back I sais that many his moderation should be redisucssed and possible lessened..... but then he came back with the idea that what he said to Ishtarr was fine because she didn't react to it the way others did.

QSM


Like I said I really don't care if he stays or leaves. I haven't read that many posts by him and I don't even know what post to Ishtar you're referring to.

The only problem I have with <awaiting approval> messages is that I have to wait to read and reply to them. That annoys me.




submissivemale22 -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:33:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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if justice prevails i should walk on this.


Who will play the jury?


it has to be my peers, who can operate without prejudice or bias. i have made friends and enemies on the general/master/mistress/submissive boards... im a relative unknown with the goreans. if we can get 12 of them together, i will seek summary judgment.




WyldHrt -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:34:00 AM)

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here is what i got banned for

You aren't banned. I can tell because you are still spewing crap.
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It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.


Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.

Took me about 2 seconds to find this:
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This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_72/tm.htm
JMO, but I'd say calling out 20 or so forum regulars while shoving them into insulting little boxes of your making (yes, I saw the post before it was pulled) qualifies here.




Elisabella -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:34:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

in many ways, yes. i suspected the whole time that i was being treated comparatively poor to other users. and im not even saying that i didnt deserve to be banned- there were things that i did which warranted this outcome. but, for me to get a two month ban for this...

anyways, to answer your question, yeah. i really dont want to be on a forum that im not welcome on.


Cool, because I think that's probably the reason.




ModTwentyOne -> RE: How Many Strikes? (7/9/2010 12:35:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: Rule

Um, could you please not be lazy and please edit your long quotes into pertinent short quotes?


Im not allowed to edit. The only pertinent part though was the immediately preceding quote.


Alpha asked you not to edit after you posted.  Rule meant to trim out the long quotes from others.  If you don't know how to do this, there is a sticky thread in the TEST forum that demonstrates the technique.




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