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juliaoceania -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 9:25:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Oh so true...we are all flawed...but we were talking hostile not pitifully embarrassing. Men in this position tend to beg...where women get mad…thus hostile.

Butch


If you read the male journals that is where you will find the hostility...not on their profiles


"All the fakes on here.."

"If you were a real submissive you would answer my emails, and if you are reading my journal, fuck you"

"CM has nothing but scammers"

"Nothing but bitches on here"

etc etc etc




Firebirdseeking -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 9:32:36 AM)

LOL, Julianaoceana and KdSub, you are both accurate.

But I have also had men get angry with me because I was not behaving the way they thought a sub "should".




kdsub -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 9:33:58 AM)

Not too bright are they... not a good advertisement of dominance if they advertise their rejections…lol

If I were to be an asshole, which we all agree I’m not, I would do all my ranting in the mail then block them so they can’t respond…bwaaa ha ha ha

Butch




juliaoceania -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 9:35:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Not too bright are they... not a good advertisement of dominance if they advertise their rejections…lol

If I were to be an asshole, which we all agree I’m not, I would do all my ranting in the mail then block them so they can’t respond…bwaaa ha ha ha

Butch


Yeah.... I have experienced that....


"You aren't a real sub, julia, get the fuck off this site, we don't want you here"[:D]




KatyLied -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 10:26:20 AM)

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But I have also had men get angry with me because I was not behaving the way they thought a sub "should".


But again, good to know ahead of time, before you waste too much time talking to them.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 10:37:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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But I have also had men get angry with me because I was not behaving the way they thought a sub "should".


But again, good to know ahead of time, before you waste too much time talking to them.



Which again might be the source of hostility in those who have had their time wasted...

I have had a couple of bisexual switches email me, and I have emailed them back that I only date het doms both told me that this was fairly common for het subs to seek het doms. Hence the emailing subs that have stated a contrary preference....

Maybe it is hard for some men to be honest... which is why some switches have multiple profiles for each orientation... some see that as being "dishonest", but in their mind they maybe acting on that orientation at that particular moment...




porcelaine -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 10:58:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ElizabethAnne

Hell, it's just not profiles.  Look at how many hostile replies there are on Collar Me.  I think it's partly because of the anonymity of the internet, anyone can act anyway they please.  Who really knows them?   I've met several people from on line, one guy comes to mind;  He was an ass, a total jerk on line, the reality?  He was a really super nice guy.   Somehow I doubt when meeting off line many people would be as nasty as they appear on line.   Guess it makes a person super cool to call someone a cunt on line....especially if they are not the "in crowd", and there is a bandwagon to jump aboard.   Lots of pact mentality exists.   Or is it sophomoric behavior?   Or are people so desperate to fit in, they go along with the crowd.


ElizabethAnne,

I'm uncertain but I agree that Internet the brings out some zany things. CollarMe has its issues but I frequent other sites that are far worse in all truth. I do believe the pack mentality behavior is pretty sad when you consider the ages it typically involves. It's rarely comprised of the twenty somethings that are bored out of their brains. I agree with your sentiments regarding demeanor. Some people enjoy inciting others and pushing buttons. I've known people like that and they're laughing as they write messages/posts just to see how the other person will react. I get a bigger chuckle from the would be bully because I suspect they're clamoring for respect elsewhere (that's lacking) and using unsuspecting strangers as their scapegoats.

~porcelaine




sexyred1 -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:06:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Did I say what people SHOULD say or NOT not? I dont think so. I am not the thought or print police. I posted a straightforwar inquiry about the level of hostility expressed by people getting profile responses they dont want or like. I have certainly gotten my share as well of inappropriate, disgusting things. I just delete.

If someone is repeatedly getting messaged by ONLY losers, maybe its time to look at what is in the profile? we tend to attract what we put out there. Hostility tends to create more hostility. The ripple effect, you know...



I find the bolded part to be a vast overgeneralization. I mean really, let's not be naive. No matter what one puts on their profile, no matter how articulate, a woman is bound to receive loser replies.

My own profile is just fine, lacking hostility and I continually get inappropriate emails. I just ignore them.

So let's not blame the victims here; not that I feel that I or anyone else who receives idiotic messages are victims. I just feel it is a bit silly to make such an idealistic comment like that.




pahunkboy -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:20:13 AM)

While the CM lured me in- I stay due to the cool people on this side.

While it is fun to dream, look around, I find the banter on this side a whole lot more fulfilling.


If someone posts- they are taken more seriously by me... I can look at their posts to size them up.

Even still- I enjoy this side. The rotten attitude I agree is a turn off- but to that I say- maybe the profiler brings it all upon themself.




Jeffff -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:21:25 AM)

You are here for the dancing and the shoes!




pahunkboy -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:31:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

You are here for the dancing and the shoes!


Hell yeah!


Jefff is one of my fav posters. I have a few. He helps make this board a great place. :-)




pahunkboy -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:32:45 AM)

STOMP




hunbubbee -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:35:32 AM)

I just laugh off aggressively hostile folks now and steer clear away from defensively aggressive ones. Indulging in the anger venting seems to be what the angry/ hostile posters want - evoking combat or dominating someones emotions by making them react out of character -ie, upset or demoralized. I personally put things in perspective when in forums/ online with 'Jerkolas'.... there's alot to enjoy in life online and offline regardless of Jerkolas attempts to rain on one's parade. I think those who  feel inclined to react to hostile types with out of character anger should take a deep breath and not react right away- just gather clear thoughts before and if replying back.




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:39:36 AM)

I still think it's Hormones.

QSM




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 11:41:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

STOMP

STOMP!!!!! *grins*




poise -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 1:08:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

FR

Helpful tip: for people wishing to skip the profiles altogether (sort of), simply set the age range with the older age preceding the younger age. 99-18 for example.

You will still be brought to the Home page and to the right (the profile section), it will simply say "No Profiles Found".

edit: clarity

thanks so much for this little hint. I like the results.




AquaticSub -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 1:18:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Did I say what people SHOULD say or NOT not? I dont think so.

And I didn't say you did. You said that they made inappropriate comments. I asked why you got to decide what was appropriate for them.
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I am not the thought or print police. I posted a straightforwar inquiry about the level of hostility expressed by people getting profile responses they dont want or like. I have certainly gotten my share as well of inappropriate, disgusting things. I just delete.

And I do the same. Great for us. Does everyone have to be like us? Why is a different response, as you said, inappropriate?
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If someone is repeatedly getting messaged by ONLY losers, maybe its time to look at what is in the profile? we tend to attract what we put out there. Hostility tends to create more hostility. The ripple effect, you know...

Maybe it's just losers. Maybe they have bad luck. Maybe they get a mix but the losers are truly horrible. You don't know what kind of profile they had before they added the comments you deem hostile.

The point is: You DON'T know what kind of messages they are getting. You don't know anything about them. So how are YOU in a place to decide what is out of line?




splorff -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 2:26:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Moreover, many of these folks are doing/saying things they would not, were they in our presence, so in addition to it being hostile and inappropriate, it is also cowardly.


Absolutely. They would not say those things to you in your presence. I think the anonimity of the internet makes them feel more comfortable about being offensive.





splorff -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 2:38:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I would say that most of the hostile profiles are women. These women I believe live two lives. In the first or real life they find themselves less than desirable for any number of reasons. In the second or online lives they find that men usually don’t care what makes them undesirable in their real lives. Being men they are often only after sex and are aggressive in their search…it is what men do… one of their main purposes in nature.

This gives these women the feeling of power and desirability they don’t experience in their real lives. It is like being drunk on power even if false. They then take their revenge on those that would not look twice at them if they met on the street.

I am not condemning women and I understand the frustration of being bomb boarded by mail from men who don’t read their profiles. And these men deserve what they get.

I actually feel sorry for those that believe CM gives them power to change their pitiful lives…this power is only a dream.

Butch


I concur. Angry middle aged women who are pulling zilch on the babe-o-meter, hiding behind an image of a pretty young woman. They use platforms such as this to offload their anger at men in general, and their respondents in particular, who would, as you point out, want nothing to do with them were they to meet. Sad. Very sad.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why all the hostility? (7/10/2010 2:44:54 PM)

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Angry middle aged women who are pulling zilch on the babe-o-meter, hiding behind an image of a pretty young woman. They use platforms such as this to offload their anger at men in general, and their respondents in particular, who would, as you point out, want nothing to do with them were they to meet.


Do you honestly think men here aren't guilty of the same thing?

I would also wonder, do women that are older (and by your assumption "less attractive" as a result of their age) have the right to expect that their wishes to date straight het men be respected.... or are they just don't have the right to demand a straight dom[8|]




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