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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 4:44:36 PM   
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I would like the option to be the sole provider.  If I choose one day to allow the schools to do it, it's my choice.  I should have the option to do so. 



You do have the option.

My question is why you would only exercise that option when it comes to sexual matters?



Because I don't believe it to be the government's place to educate my child on sexual matters.



Which only restates what I asked without answering why.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 4:47:14 PM   
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Domiguy, you should really apply for a job in the diplomatic corp of some country I don't like very much. ;)



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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 4:50:31 PM   
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But.........I have seen far more of the opposite. My sister included. Her goal in home schooling was to protect her sons. Not from a poor education, but from the evils ( like Harry Potter books, Aerosmith...



Aerosmith??? Wtf! What am I missing?


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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 4:56:30 PM   
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I said ah heck babe, that doesn't make her a bad person, and besides she is funny as heck and dances well.  The look in her face was one of confusion, and I expected to have her mom come get on to me later.  Mom didn't, and if she had I don't know what I would have said.


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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 7:47:42 PM   
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You are free to call your man what you like....but referring to him as "daddy" in a post in which you bemoan the substituting of "tinkle" for "pee" seems beyond ironic...just saying.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 7:49:30 PM   
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If I ever have children I want to teach them the correct word for the correct part, and correct word for the correct function, like I don't want someone teaching them cutesie words for bowel functions, I don't want them , when they have to go pee, being told to call it " I have to tinkle" "or wee wee" or " boom boom" for pooping.



Just informationally -- the correct terms for this are "urinate" and "defaecate" (which may equally be technically substituted with "have a bowel movement", which is what medical facilities often use).

Pee and poop are also euphamisms, just like "tinkle" and "BM" (which are what I grew up with), "wee wee" and "boom boom", or #1 and #2.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 7:51:54 PM   
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One of my earlier posts points that out.
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All of that said, I am not sure if education would have given me the strenght to report it when I started getting molested.  In my case, it was a close family member, and I believed him when he told me the bad things that would happen if I told.  I am not sure having been taught differently at school would have changed that....

After reading the pdf file that my self and someone else linked earlier, I do support what this school district is trying to do though.  It is basic stuff, and doesn't seem to want to teach morals, just the facts so to say.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 7:55:18 PM   
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She told him they come from a seed, and then from then on the little boy told women he'd give them an ice cream pop if they'd let him plant a seed in their vagina and see if a baby grew lol.

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Sex education for children is not about telling them how to have sex, its about telling them things that are appropriate for their age and level of understanding.

When a young child asks where babies come from, and they are told that they are brought by storks or "the fairies" or other lies, it just confuses the children, they know its not true, and may go and experiment, or hear wild rumors.



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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 7:56:45 PM   
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Our age play dynamic, of our relationship, doesn't have any bearing on what my future children will call having to go pee. It's not irony, to me. Ones a relationship dynamic, and the other is not wishing future children of mine to call peeing tinkling.

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You are free to call your man what you like....but referring to him as "daddy" in a post in which you bemoan the substituting of "tinkle" for "pee" seems beyond ironic...just saying.

Oh for heavens sake ...I was just kidding...I don't give a fuck if you dress in a catholic school uniform and tie your hair in pony tails while crying out "spank me daddy,spank me".
If it floats your boat..... then happy sailing to the two of you.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 8:23:37 PM   
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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 8:38:50 PM   
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Balderdash.  I will never agree that any verbal teachings can help a child that young avoid being molested, nor even help them feel free enough to speak up if it does happen.
 


My mother taught me that no one should touch me in my "private areas" ever.... not a family member, no one... ever...

So when a much older male family member attempted to do so in the car when I was 11 I was empowered to tell him "no"


Sooooo... i guess your absolutes are incorrect... the thing about absolutes.... they usually are.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 8:48:19 PM   
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Why do you assume I'll be puritanical?  Because I don't want someone else teaching my children about sexual education, so I just HAVE to be puritanical?  OH WOW. 

If I were a good parent, I'd opt out and teach my child how I feel they need to be taught sexual education.  I'd also supplement everything being taught as far as grammar, history, etc. 


Not puritanical, but I wonder why teaching kids about sexual functioning brings out such a response? Seriously, to me teaching the birds and the bees is no different than teaching kids how we take a dump... it is just biology.... ooops., I forgot, in Texas they don't like things like "biology" with its radical " "evolutionists"

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 8:50:41 PM   
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But.........I have seen far more of the opposite. My sister included. Her goal in home schooling was to protect her sons. Not from a poor education, but from the evils ( like Harry Potter books, Aerosmith...



Aerosmith??? Wtf! What am I missing?



Did you listen to their last studio album? All humans should be protected from that crap! And I love Aerosmith...

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/15/2010 10:11:50 PM   
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But.........I have seen far more of the opposite. My sister included. Her goal in home schooling was to protect her sons. Not from a poor education, but from the evils ( like Harry Potter books, Aerosmith...



Aerosmith??? Wtf! What am I missing?



Did you listen to their last studio album? All humans should be protected from that crap! And I love Aerosmith...


At least they have the good taste to have the JGB open for them on a couple of dates.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 4:32:35 AM   
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yeah suuuuuuure.....and he eats there cause he likes the wings 

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 7:03:34 AM   
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Why do you assume I'll be puritanical?  Because I don't want someone else teaching my children about sexual education, so I just HAVE to be puritanical?  OH WOW. 

If I were a good parent, I'd opt out and teach my child how I feel they need to be taught sexual education.  I'd also supplement everything being taught as far as grammar, history, etc. 


Not puritanical, but I wonder why teaching kids about sexual functioning brings out such a response? Seriously, to me teaching the birds and the bees is no different than teaching kids how we take a dump... it is just biology.... ooops., I forgot, in Texas they don't like things like "biology" with its radical " "evolutionists"


Maybe if you'd read the entire thread, you'd see that I stray very far off from the beliefs of your typical Texan.  I'm Pagan, I at least have a belief in evolution, before I decided to do culinary, my major was biology education.  Wow.  Your assumptions are just so damned amusing.  It's kind of ridiculous. 

It's the fact that someone else aside from me is teaching my child about sexual education.  I would like to have the OPTION to opt out. That's all I expect.  That's what parents should have.  It's no different, in my mind, than having the right/choice to abort a fetus.  You may not even opt out, but you want to have the chance to do so. 
Maybe there are parents out there who are irresponsible and won't educate their children, but I won't be one of them. 




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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 7:04:58 AM   
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We were at a Chili Cook-Off, and some hooters girl stuck it on Him.
yeah suuuuuuure.....and he eats there cause he likes the wings 


There aren't wings at a chili cook-off.  There's chili.  They're one of the sponsors? 


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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 7:11:14 AM   
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I would like the option to be the sole provider.  If I choose one day to allow the schools to do it, it's my choice.  I should have the option to do so. 



You do have the option.

My question is why you would only exercise that option when it comes to sexual matters?



Because I don't believe it to be the government's place to educate my child on sexual matters.



Which only restates what I asked without answering why.



Because I don't feel comfortable having some stranger educate my child about their sexuality or their sexual nature or even their body parts. 


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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 8:16:22 AM   
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Because I don't feel comfortable having some stranger educate my child about their sexuality or their sexual nature or even their body parts. 



Ah so, it is your discomfort that would bother you, not necessarily your child's. Very revealing I think.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/16/2010 8:27:44 AM   
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Because I don't feel comfortable having some stranger educate my child about their sexuality or their sexual nature or even their body parts. 



Ah so, it is your discomfort that would bother you, not necessarily your child's. Very revealing I think.



How typical of you. Perhaps HIS discomfort is over the development of HIS CHILD which is his responsibility, who doesnt have a clue what to be uncomfortable about.

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