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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 4:35:35 PM   
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So the Sons of Norway is a racist organization?   As would be the Maids of Athena, the society of Hispanic Professional Engineers, and so on.


Those Sons Of Italy need to show some papers,now please.


Hey,here`s an innocuous,mainstream sounding name for ya`ll


.....Council Of Conservative Citizens......


Check out there website. http://cofcc.org/

There are a lot of elected republicans who are either members of or partial to this overt racist organization.

Like GOP leader Trent Lott.

"* Lott gave the keynote address at a 1992 national executive board meeting of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a successor organization to the old white Citizens Councils, segregation-era groups the Southern Poverty Law Center refers to as "the white-collar Ku Klux Klan. The C of CC may have changed its name, but it remains a passionate "white racialist" group that condemns intermarriage, integration and immigration by non-whites. As Boston Globe columnist Derrick Z. Jackson, who has researched the group, argues, "There is no question of the resegregationist agenda of the Council of Conservative Citizens when four of the seven links listed on the home page for former Klan leader David Duke link back to the Council of Conservative Citizens." Other links, Jackson has noted, "deny the Holocaust and sell T-shirts with swastikas and Nazi stormtrooper symbols." But when Lott appeared at that Greenwood, Mississippi, meeting of C of CC leaders, he did not address his disdain for racism or anti-Semitism. Rather, he discussed his concerns about "the dark forces" that he said were overwhelming America and said, "We need more meetings like this across the nation... The people in this room stand for the right principles and the right philosophy. Let's take it in the right direction and our children will be the beneficiaries."

http://www.thenation.com/blog/trent-lotts-uptown-klan


There are a lot of links and cross pollination between the tea-baggers and the C of CC.



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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 4:56:02 PM   
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Any group that bases itself on race is racist, plain and simple, and yes many advocacy groups do fall into that category. And you are wrong I DO take into consideration the relative amounts of power each group has (or hasn't). I never said that the NAACP was a bad organization, or that it didn't do a huge amount of good. It is a good and needed advocacy group, but it is also racist...it is an advocacy group that discriminates on the basis of race...it can't be made more simple than that.



No, it is not plain and simple.

There have been a couple people, including myself, who have provided you with dictionary definitions of racism.

In those definitions it is clear there is a distinction between racial advocacy and racism.

One of the primary differences is if the person or organization sees their race as superior.  Which is the difference between an organization like the KKK and the NAACP.  



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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 5:03:38 PM   
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Of course. We have lots of them, WV being a blue state and all.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!

You're from West Virginia.

I never knew, but that explains a lot.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 6:31:01 PM   
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for obama to be the democratic nomination, people still had to vote. meaning the same 12.8%(subtracting the 1 or 2% that may have voted for McCain) voted for him the same as they did in the actual election. the SAME group of people. i didnt live in the US when that happened, at at this point, it doesnt matter- considering neither of them are currently in office. however, since the black/african-american population was slightly larger at that time(13%, 2004), it wouldnt have mattered if they showed up in larger numbers since bush won by a landslide.


Obama beat Clinton by 3.7% of the pledged delegates. Assuming 13% of blacks voted in the primaries (their turnout for the general) and they went 95% for Obama as in the general, he received 11.7% of the total vote from blacks. If they had been split 50/50 in a non-racial vote pattern, he would have received 6.5%, or 5.2% less = a 1.5% loss. (In fact it probably would have been more skewed toward Clinton than 50/50 because she would mostl likely have picked up a disproportionate piece of the female black vote if she faced a white male).

Then there are the support and momentum factors.


Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy: "the only reason you are endorsing him is because he's black. Let's just be clear."

Geraldine Ferraro: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Welcome to the US.




From now on I am going to assume that everything you put in quotation marks is made-up, since you seem to be unable to ever provide a source.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 10:14:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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for obama to be the democratic nomination, people still had to vote. meaning the same 12.8%(subtracting the 1 or 2% that may have voted for McCain) voted for him the same as they did in the actual election. the SAME group of people. i didnt live in the US when that happened, at at this point, it doesnt matter- considering neither of them are currently in office. however, since the black/african-american population was slightly larger at that time(13%, 2004), it wouldnt have mattered if they showed up in larger numbers since bush won by a landslide.


Obama beat Clinton by 3.7% of the pledged delegates. Assuming 13% of blacks voted in the primaries (their turnout for the general) and they went 95% for Obama as in the general, he received 11.7% of the total vote from blacks. If they had been split 50/50 in a non-racial vote pattern, he would have received 6.5%, or 5.2% less = a 1.5% loss. (In fact it probably would have been more skewed toward Clinton than 50/50 because she would mostl likely have picked up a disproportionate piece of the female black vote if she faced a white male).

Then there are the support and momentum factors.


Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy: "the only reason you are endorsing him is because he's black. Let's just be clear."

Geraldine Ferraro: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Welcome to the US.




From now on I am going to assume that everything you put in quotation marks is made-up, since you seem to be unable to ever provide a source.



Assume whatever the fuck you want. I dont make up any quotes, and if you want to claim I do go ahead and pick one and I'll embarass you with your stupidity again.

Hint: search for the quote in your favorite search engine.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 10:19:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

for obama to be the democratic nomination, people still had to vote. meaning the same 12.8%(subtracting the 1 or 2% that may have voted for McCain) voted for him the same as they did in the actual election. the SAME group of people. i didnt live in the US when that happened, at at this point, it doesnt matter- considering neither of them are currently in office. however, since the black/african-american population was slightly larger at that time(13%, 2004), it wouldnt have mattered if they showed up in larger numbers since bush won by a landslide.


Obama beat Clinton by 3.7% of the pledged delegates. Assuming 13% of blacks voted in the primaries (their turnout for the general) and they went 95% for Obama as in the general, he received 11.7% of the total vote from blacks. If they had been split 50/50 in a non-racial vote pattern, he would have received 6.5%, or 5.2% less = a 1.5% loss. (In fact it probably would have been more skewed toward Clinton than 50/50 because she would mostl likely have picked up a disproportionate piece of the female black vote if she faced a white male).

Then there are the support and momentum factors.


Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy: "the only reason you are endorsing him is because he's black. Let's just be clear."

Geraldine Ferraro: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Welcome to the US.




From now on I am going to assume that everything you put in quotation marks is made-up, since you seem to be unable to ever provide a source.



Assume whatever the fuck you want. I dont make up any quotes, and if you want to claim I do go ahead and pick one and I'll embarass you with your stupidity again.

Hint: search for the quote in your favorite search engine.
Ain't up to me to verify the trash you post, Gomer. It's up to you to prove it was actually said or written by someone other than yourself. Otherwise, it's either self-generated dung or a probable copyright violation.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to violate a copyright, since you Rethuglinazis are so big on Law n Order.


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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 10:23:46 PM   
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Ain't up to me to verify the trash you post, Gomer. It's up to you to prove it was actually said or written by someone other than yourself. Otherwise, it's either self-generated dung or a probable copyright violation.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to violate a copyright, since you Rethuglinazis are so big on Law n Order.



Its not up to me to do anything. I could give a flying fuck if you dont want to believe something I quote or verify it for yourself. Its so easy to to discredit the libs on this board with the truth, going to the effort of making something up would be pointless.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 10:27:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


Ain't up to me to verify the trash you post, Gomer. It's up to you to prove it was actually said or written by someone other than yourself. Otherwise, it's either self-generated dung or a probable copyright violation.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to violate a copyright, since you Rethuglinazis are so big on Law n Order.



Its not up to me to do anything. I could give a flying fuck if you dont want to believe something I quote or verify it for yourself. Its so easy to to discredit the libs on this board with the truth, going to the effort of making something up would be pointless.
So you're OK with stealing intellectual property from others, right?


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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 10:36:38 PM   
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Ain't up to me to verify the trash you post, Gomer. It's up to you to prove it was actually said or written by someone other than yourself. Otherwise, it's either self-generated dung or a probable copyright violation.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to violate a copyright, since you Rethuglinazis are so big on Law n Order.



Its not up to me to do anything. I could give a flying fuck if you dont want to believe something I quote or verify it for yourself. Its so easy to to discredit the libs on this board with the truth, going to the effort of making something up would be pointless.
So you're OK with stealing intellectual property from others, right?



Your glaring lack of logical thought is typical of a liberal who cant discuss topics and has to resort to strawmen.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 11:27:19 PM   
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It is annoying if someone says something about another country and then someone from that country chimes in and acts all offended like only people from that country know what is going on in the country they live in. Some folks from other places can and do have enough of a handle on what is going on in a country that is not their own to contribute to the discussion about the country they do not live in. Some folks really do.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 11:31:14 PM   
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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 11:36:29 PM   
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Tho I tease a bit,I love our neighbors to the north.


Yeah, Fort Lee rocks.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 11:38:55 PM   
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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/16/2010 11:43:42 PM   
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Don`t quite your day job.


Buy spell check before you apply for one.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/17/2010 10:50:52 AM   
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There have been a couple people, including myself, who have provided you with dictionary definitions of racism.

In those definitions it is clear there is a distinction between racial advocacy and racism.
And those definitions also included the word "Discrimination" which many advocacy groups do...and if said discrimination is based on race....by definition racist.

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RE: Tea bagger leader:NAACP makes "more money off ... - 7/17/2010 10:55:16 AM   
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