jlf1961
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Hunk, okay, so they were held in executive session, prior to committee meetings being held in public, so yes, those transcripts were sealed.
However, as I previously said, hearings and testimony in 1965 already put doubt on the incident on August 4, 1964 in which the USS Maddox engaged what was probably radar ghosts, since the North Vietnamese Government denied any involvement, while confirming the incident on August 2nd.
This denial in and of itself placed doubt on whether or not the Maddox engaged anything on the night of August 4. By 1968, the senate and house had already heard the testimony concerning August 4, had the confirmation of the incident on August 2nd in which the Maddox had received fire from the North Vietnamese torpedo boats.
Now, it was the incident of the night of the 4th that led to the resolution. Which has been in doubt since, I repeat, 1965. Thus the declassified material only sheds light on the possibility that the Maddox did not even fire a weapon on the night of August 4.
In fact the Maddox did fire its weapons on the night of August 4th, but the question becomes "At what?"
The North Vietnamese navy was involved with salvage operations of the two damaged patrol boats from August 2nd, and were thus far out of range, so the Maddox did not fire at them, OR considering the fact that the radar technology of the period was showing false echos, or ghosts, and that is what the Maddox fired at.
As I previously pointed out, the NSA report released in 2005 indicates that the Maddox fired at radar ghosts.
Now, as I have said before, had you done any in depth research on your own, you would have already known that there were serious questions concerning the August 4th incident, that these questions had been raised in testimony to the senate in 1965, and evidently again in 1968.
Therefore, these declassified documents raise nothing new.
By the way, by the time Nixon took office, it was already widely accepted that the incident of August 4th was pretty much an incident of "blind" shooting. So it took 40 years for an official agency, namely the NSA to release the information.
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