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Kirata -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:46:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Why jump on Owner59 when he pointed out the obvious? Owner59 didn't "point out" anything. And where, precisely, is it "obvious" that I (or anyone else posting to this thread) intends to imply that her religion had anything to do with either the homicide or her sentence? K.

kdsub -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:47:13 PM)
But can't you see where the mention of her religion in this context could very well be tying her religion with killing her daughter... I see it and can see where owner59 could see it. Damn a lot of seeing here but you get my idea don’t you? Butch

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:47:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub You miss my point... the very fact that the article posted her faith in the second sentence means it has significance to the article writer... Butch Wrong. Its simply a point of information. Wrong There were 200 some odd killings in the St Louis area last year... NONE of the stories on the deaths, at least that I've seen, mentioned the religion of the murder or victim. So don’t give me the crap that her religion meant nothing. Butch Get new reporters then. When some facet of the background is uncommon, its usually mentioned, relevant or not.

Owner59 -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:47:56 PM)
It`s an awful ,fucked up tragedy.I never like hear about familys hurting. Much less joke about it.Right,richie? Why did you post this one tho,Kirata? There are homicides everyday,even in Canada. Why this one? Is there some other significance or angle to this story that prompted your interest to share it in the Politics and Religion forum? Or did I nail it the first time?

kdsub -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:50:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Get new reporters then. When some facet of the background is uncommon, its usually mentioned, relevant or not. OK show me another murder where a Christian is mentioned...as there religion...The religion of a murderer is not commonly mentioned if so show me how common it is.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:51:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 It`s an awful ,fucked up tragedy.I never like hear about familys hurting. Much less joke about it.Right,richie? Why did you post this one tho? There are homicides everyday,even in Canada. Why this one? Is there some other significance or angle to this story that prompted your interest to share it in the Politics and Religion forum? Or did I nail it the first time? Obviously it has nothing to do with the sentence. [sm=confused.gif]

Kirata -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 9:58:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub But can't you see where the mention of her religion in this context could very well be tying her religion with killing her daughter... I see it and can see where owner59 could see it. Well then, suppose you explain to the rest of us precisely how it is that you think her religion could be tied to the incident. Because I don't have much time for people who are pleased to imagine that a connection they made in their head must be what was occuring in someone else's. K.

Kirata -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 10:03:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Why did you post this one tho,Kirata? Or did I nail it the first time? Hope springs eternal, eh? Well no, as you might have gathered if you had bothered to read the thread. I answered the question "why" here. K.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 10:06:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Get new reporters then. When some facet of the background is uncommon, its usually mentioned, relevant or not. OK show me another murder where a Christian is mentioned...as there religion...The religion of a murderer is not commonly mentioned if so show me how common it is. I said IF the religion itself is uncommon. Mentioning someone is Christian in the US, very common, would not provide anything of interest. If it was a killing of a Christian in Israel, you damn right it would be mentioned.

Vendaval -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 10:13:07 PM)
The link provided by Lucy explains the basics of the terrible background the family experienced in war-torn Chechnya. This latest tragedy is a continuation of that violence. I would not want to be a juror in this trial. How can someone who has not endured such horrific violence know the mind-set of the survivors?

Owner59 -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 10:36:18 PM)
Good point.That was another horrible,horrible tragedy. If Kirata says it was just the lack of prints that made him share this with us and nothing else,so be it. It must be as boring as dirt up there in Canada.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/16/2010 10:40:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Good point.That was another horrible,horrible tragedy. If Kirata says it was just the lack of prints that made him share this with us and nothing else,so be it. It must be as boring as dirt up there in Canada. lack of prints????? lmao. Get away from that toxic waste dump you live next to, its rotting whats left of your brain.

heartcream -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 1:53:42 AM)
Owner59 please stop lumping all the beavers together it is highly annoying, thanks yeah. Highly annoying. Desist, danke. This sounds like the worst reality to have to live in. I bet the mom didnt mean to kill her daughter. I hope not but I bet the mother will live the rest of her life in some sort of hell. I feel for all of them involved.

rulemylife -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 4:39:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I bet the other offspring of this woman are going to be mighty well behaved. Even for you Richie that was an amazingly fucked up comment.

rulemylife -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 5:02:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval The link provided by Lucy explains the basics of the terrible background the family experienced in war-torn Chechnya. This latest tragedy is a continuation of that violence. I would not want to be a juror in this trial. How can someone who has not endured such horrific violence know the mind-set of the survivors? Her mind-set should not not be a factor in determining sentencing unless she is judged to be mentally incompetent. The reality is women routinely are judged less harshly than men because society views them as incapable of such horrific acts, and even when it is shown that those acts indisputably occurred there is a rush to blame mitigating circumstances. So tell me honestly that you would have made this same post if this had been a man who strangled his 14-year old daughter.

kdsub -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 5:10:15 AM)
You have not told me why her religion was even mentioned in the story. If you can give me one good reason it was important to the story I'll agree religion has nothing to do with it. Until then I will believe it does. I don't much care if you have time to consider people that see it. Be blind if you like. I don’t have to figure what was in the mind of the author of the story I just see their words. Butch

thishereboi -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 5:47:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub But can't you see where the mention of her religion in this context could very well be tying her religion with killing her daughter... I see it and can see where owner59 could see it. Damn a lot of seeing here but you get my idea don’t you? Butch 59 wasn't claiming the article was all about her religion, he was claiming that was the only reason Kirata posted the thread. So he could show us how evil those muslims are. I called him on his bullshit and you jumped into the mix. Now I have read a lot of posts by Kirata over the years and he seems to be very intelligent and has never shown signs of the kind of behavior that 59 is accusing him of. So I am going to ignore the rantings of 59 and give him the benefit of the doubt when he says that was not his intention.

thishereboi -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 5:48:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Good point.That was another horrible,horrible tragedy. If Kirata says it was just the lack of prints that made him share this with us and nothing else,so be it. It must be as boring as dirt up there in Canada. When did Kirata move to Canada?

TheHeretic -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 7:05:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I bet the other offspring of this woman are going to be mighty well behaved. Even for you Richie that was an amazingly fucked up comment. Not as fucked up as the crime, the sentence, or as the other children are going to be by the whole affair.

Arpig -> RE: Canada, oh Canada (7/17/2010 7:25:11 AM)
What do I think...I think its fucked up. There should be a real penalty for something like that, I mean the mother's story was not backed up by the evidence. Somtimes our justice system is just a joke.

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