Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesity Rating By 2014


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesity Rating By 2014 Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 4:50:02 PM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Sleep studies are actually not that costly...



Yes they are.

I have had friends and relatives diagnosed with sleep apnea.

The initial test costs at least $2,500, and that was several years ago.

And the "cure" is this oxygen machine you have to wear at night which I have no idea of the cost of but it doesn't look cheap.


Actually most people with sleep apnea don't need the positive pressure machine. They can get by on breathe right strips (I've got it and that's what I use).

BTW this is a proposal by the FMCSA and is not in any law or regulation I can find.

(in reply to rulemylife)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 5:00:04 PM   
rulemylife


Posts: 14614
Joined: 8/23/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually most people with sleep apnea don't need the positive pressure machine. They can get by on breathe right strips (I've got it and that's what I use).


BTW this is a proposal by the FMCSA and is not in any law or regulation I can find.



I'm not an expert on it but everyone I know that has been diagnosed uses the machine.

Which to me seems it would make it harder to sleep.

I can't imagine being comfortable enough to sleep tethered to an oxygen mask.


< Message edited by rulemylife -- 7/18/2010 5:02:46 PM >

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 5:09:00 PM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
My doctor said to try the strips. They work great.

(in reply to rulemylife)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 5:09:35 PM   
angelikaJ


Posts: 8641
Joined: 6/22/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually most people with sleep apnea don't need the positive pressure machine. They can get by on breathe right strips (I've got it and that's what I use).


BTW this is a proposal by the FMCSA and is not in any law or regulation I can find.



I'm not an expert on it but everyone I know that has been diagnosed uses the machine.

Which to me seems it would make it harder to sleep.

I can't imagine being comfortable enough to sleep tethered to an oxygen mask.



Funny thing, once they got accustomed to it, the people I know find they sleep much better with the machine than without it, and they wake up feeling rested and without chronic headaches or other symptoms they had before the machine.

_____________________________

The original home of the caffeinated psychotic hair pixies.
(as deemed by He who owns me)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3234821/tm.htm

30 fluffy points!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQjuCQd01sg

(in reply to rulemylife)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 5:12:18 PM   
thornhappy


Posts: 8596
Joined: 12/16/2006
Status: offline
There are portable and on-site testing technologies available that are covered by most  insurance companies.

The FMCSA did an evaluation of several studies on apnea and an additional on, concluding that more data and a better experiment design would be required before passing any new regulations.  It looks like ideas are floating around but not in law.
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadiTrukDriver

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesity Rating By 2014

what a crock!!!!   How intrusive.



As we can all tell, I am a truck driver. The government is trying to get it fully implemented that if a truck driver is over 33% BMI, now mind you, this includes those who work out & are in excellent shape, but you're over 33% BMI, you have to go get a sleep study done, why? Because you must have sleep apnea with a 34% or above, right? My BMI is approximately 43% (yes, I know I need to lose weight), and when this is implemented I will have to go to a sleep study to prove that I do NOT have sleep apnea.
Mind you, a 42 year old man who is 6' 0" and weighs 250 is 33.9% BMI & considered Obese and has to do a sleep study to prove he doesn't have sleep apnea.
A 42 year old female who is 5' 5" and weighs 204 is 33.9% BMI & considered Obese, and also has to do a sleep study to prove she doesn't have sleep apnea.
So right there, if that is implemented prior to 2014, that will take care of over 3 million Americans.
I too feel it's invasive & unfair, but if I want to continue my career I have to essentially allow the government to do what they want & implement what rules they want at MY COST, out of MY POCKET.
I have been told a sleep study test costs anywhere from $2500 - $5000, I don't have that kind of money, but when the rule is put in place I better come up with it pretty quick or say goodbye to my career.
So yes hunky, I can relate to what you're saying about the invasiveness


(in reply to LadiTrukDriver)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/18/2010 11:18:54 PM   
ModTwentyOne


Posts: 2504
Status: offline
I think I've pulled half the posts on this thread, most of it back and forth taunting.  Please keep it on topic.  Thank you.

So, how about that BMI?



_____________________________

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

(in reply to thornhappy)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesit... - 7/19/2010 8:51:10 AM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline
As mentioned getting a BMI would not be hard.

I noticed tho DRS locally ASK your weight- even tho there is a scale right there.

in of itself- I dont think it is a threat.    But to put it in a central database could be  bad.

Most people ARE over weight.  The % is high.      I do think that- asking weight rather then measuring ones weight is a bad idea.  Let the facts be facts.

(in reply to ModTwentyOne)
Profile   Post #: 47
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: 07-16-2010: Government Wants Your Individual Obesity Rating By 2014 Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.063