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MojoRisin -> No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 8:51:57 PM)

Hey, a serious question here:

I'm interested in the lifestyle of BDSM, yet not into whips, chains, inflicting pain, dungeons, goth, or any of that. My interests lie more in an intensified 1950s style..... me, taking care of a sub/slave woman, allowing her the resources so that she may obey and please me, but loving and taking care of her as one would a pet...

Total obedience on her part, but more about cooking/cleaning, dressing up, etc -- without the other stuff.

My question is: Am I in the right place?




panzerin -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 8:56:36 PM)

Sounds like you need to join up one of those sick patriarchal religious cults.  They do some 24-7 D/s if ever it was done.  Plus they go to heaven when they die, unlike the rest of us godless sinning infidels (who go to heaven now).




puella -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:09:40 PM)

Look, I am anything but an expert here... but absolutey!  You can find what you seek on this site.  One does not need to be a kinkist or fetishist to be Dominant or submissive.  I have always been a proponent of the idea that, for me, it is not about the outfit, toy or trying to defy convention.  It is very important for me, to be organic to my most honest self.  Being submissive is just a natural part of who I am as a person.  I do not need to don a latex cat suit or be beaten publicly or privately for that state of being to be actualized.  Submissive is something I am, not something I do.  I would think that the same might be true on the opposite side of the scale... I would sure hope so.

Saying that, there is nothing wrong with the other variables I just mentioned... except of course the idea of me in a latex cat suit, which would never be a good idea, hehe.  All I am trying to say is, not every aspect of the B, D, S, and M need to apply for you to be Dominant.

Good luck in your search!




maybemaybenot -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:13:38 PM)

I'm non masochistic. I feel pretty comfy here. In my experience, pain is not a pre requisite for being in this lifestyle. Neither of my two Dominants were into inflicting physical pain.

                                mbmbn




Clothespingirl -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:16:01 PM)

MojoRisin, here's a site that may interest you:  http://www.takeninhand.com    It is composed of hundreds of discussions   of "vanilla" D/s;  that is, power exchange composed entirely of style and attitude without necessarily any physical force.   Though several of the regular posters also practice domestic discipline.  It's a great place to get inspiration!




crouchingtigress -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:16:14 PM)

I can only speak for myself I am Domme now but spent many years a a sub/slave.
 
To me the sort of arrangement would be like going to work with out pay, climbing a snow covered mountain and not sledding down, eating  liver and peas and not getting cake afterwords.
 
To me, if I was the type of  50s style woman who knew my value as a domestic, and was good at that sort of service I would shop around for the best benefits package I could find, And not being beaten regularly, not being put in slave head space by my owner just would get tedious and boring very quickly.

I second the poster that said it sounds like a religious cult might be more up your alley.




FangsNfeet -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:16:25 PM)

Well no one here seems to be telling you to get the fuck out so if nothing else, you're excepted as a member of this site.

Any how, answer me this?

This total obidence thing begins to wear off. What do you do to keep her from slacking on the responsibilities you have for her? After all nobody is perfect and I don't see you kicking sub after sub out the door because meat loaf night was skiped and pizza was ordered instead.




crouchingtigress -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:19:10 PM)

I so do not agree with your post, but I love your tag line.




WyrdRich -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:28:05 PM)

       Here or a nice Conservative Baptist church....  Might be better off here.... I'm married to a Pastor's daughter and she's kind of a freak.

      Happy, Happy Happy




MojoRisin -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 9:40:57 PM)

All interesting replies.... to be considered!

Mojo





MojoRisin -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/16/2006 10:29:43 PM)

clothespingirl..... taken in hand is exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks!




Level -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 3:54:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Well no one here seems to be telling you to get the fuck out so if nothing else, you're excepted as a member of this site.

Any how, answer me this?

This total obidence thing begins to wear off. What do you do to keep her from slacking on the responsibilities you have for her? After all nobody is perfect and I don't see you kicking sub after sub out the door because meat loaf night was skiped and pizza was ordered instead.


LMAO at meatloaf night.......




PlayfulOne -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 5:17:19 AM)

there are "pets" around here who don't wish to be beaten, you just might have to loo a little harder

K




MstrssPassion -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 5:35:12 AM)

BDSM is just that...

What it sounds like is that you are looking for a physical interaction that is more along the lines of a TPE without the incorporation of sado-masochistic 'play'.

Dominance & submission does not require BDSM just as BDSM does not require dominance & submission.

If you don't want to tie up a girl & whip the daylights out of her... don't.

There are plenty of dominants & submissives out there that do not use whips & chains.




Proprietrix -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 5:36:14 AM)

Oh my gosh. I have to admit I'm surprised at some of the responses so far!
(Pardon me, while I rant.)
I'm seeing a total double standard, hypocrisy, and sexism.
People sing and dance the song of acceptance, and power exchange without fetish fulfillment, and how service isn't related to kink,
but along comes a Dominant MALE looking for the exact same thing and he's brushed off like an outcast. Join a cult? A church? WTF?

Male supremacy is just as valid as female supremacy.
A female service oriented sub is just as valid as a male service oriented sub.
Patriarchy is just as valid as matriarchy.
A male Dominant not wanting to devote all his time to a female's fetishes is just as valid as a female Dominant not wanting to devote all her time to a male sub's fetishes.

If I, as a Dominant woman, had written that I was interested in BDSM lifestyle (which I am), with no interest in whips and chains (which is pretty much true), and wanted an intensified Victorian household (which I do), and wanted to take care of a slave boy (which I do), and allow him the resources to obey and please me (which I do) and loving care for him as one would a pet (which I do) and expect total obedience on his part (which I do), and focus on cleaning and cooking (which I do) without focusing on the fetishism (which is absolutely true for me)......
what response would I have gotten?
Would I have been told to go join a religious cult?

OP:
I was originally going to say "Hell yes you're in the right place!", but based on some of the responses I've seen to you, I'm beginning to wonder how comfortable and welcomed you'll feel here. And how comfortable and welcomed I am for that matter, since my search is nearly identical to yours.




MstrssPassion -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 5:54:15 AM)

Well that was really only one person who said anything completely negative. I read the profile & took into consideration the source... these two are on the opposite side of it all... one seeks what appears to be a TPE with structure & consistency, the other wants to flip a coin as to who gets to top. Neither are wrong for what they wish to achieve, neither should be ridiculed... as we all say "to each their own".

What it all boils down to is it is not a BDSM relationship that this individual seeks. BDSM cannot be considered a blanket term for all. The OP seems to be on the right track... he has a pretty good idea about how he wishes to define his own relationship. Now he just needs to communicate this with others & eventually he will find a partner who is seeking the same. 




IronBear -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 5:58:11 AM)

G'day MojoRisin mate,

Forget the replies you got like panzerin's. You are in the right place, you just want the D/s without the SM. Most Goreans aren't into the SM either and were here in the CM Community....Funny y'know if a sub/slave had asked the same question they probably would have not been treated so shabbily...  I guess if I wasn't Gorean I'd probably look at the 50's too but ideally I'd rather go fror an Edwardian Lifestyle (assuming I have the spondoolicks to support it)

Proprietrix, you said it Lass I agree....




JohnWarren -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 6:29:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

Oh my gosh. I have to admit I'm surprised at some of the responses so far!
(Pardon me, while I rant.)
I'm seeing a total double standard, hypocrisy, and sexism.
People sing and dance the song of acceptance, and power exchange without fetish fulfillment, and how service isn't related to kink,


Could you be a bit more specific?  I've been following this notestream and have seen only one negative comment and a lot of support.  

I guess I missed something that triggered this tirade.  Would you mind pointing me to the specific group of posts to which you are referring?




KnightofMists -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 6:36:21 AM)

I believe that this is a Place for you to gain some insights... But, The right place as in the only place... NO.  Take what you can from here and leave the rest..... Look for other places as well.... Just not the online community/resources, but  out in the Community or from books etc. 

I personally am into alot of BDSM  But,  The Power Structure of the relationships I have with my two girls are very much a critical aspect of our interactions.  We might not see the same page on the BDSM stuff.... but I am sure like many here you will beable to gain insight on the Power aspects.




WyrdRich -> RE: No Whips, No Chains, No Pain... (4/17/2006 6:36:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

If I, as a Dominant woman, had written that I was interested in BDSM lifestyle (which I am), with no interest in whips and chains (which is pretty much true), and wanted an intensified Victorian household (which I do), and wanted to take care of a slave boy (which I do), and allow him the resources to obey and please me (which I do) and loving care for him as one would a pet (which I do) and expect total obedience on his part (which I do), and focus on cleaning and cooking (which I do) without focusing on the fetishism (which is absolutely true for me)......
what response would I have gotten?
Would I have been told to go join a religious cult?



        No, I'd have said it sounded like you were trying to start one.

     OP:      I'm not about to pull out the Bible and start quoting chapter and verse but "wives submit to your husbands" is a big part of the doctrine in a lot of little churches scattered on the edge of town.  I mentioned the Baptists because I spent a few years incarcerated in one of their schools (Jesus was on the same cell block), but there are a lot of options for him.




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