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DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:26:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ETA: Was my OP sexists as suggested, I dont think so but that would depend on your definition of what being sexist is  julia


It is MY opinion that it is wrong for anyone to tell another person to sit down and shut the fuck up because of their gender...

In my mind respect between people should be something to strive for, but that is just me... You want a world in which one person has it over on another person because they have a penis. I think that is sexist...


I CHOOSE to have a man that leads me... but a man that would think it is okay to tell me to shut the fuck up? That ain't no alpha man, that is a man who does not respect me and by extension doesn't respect himself if I am his reflection...

Just ME, etc


I believe there are times were some people need to be be told to shit down and shut up.  I also believe that sometimes that can be done out of respect and love for them. Often times people forget they have 2 ears and one mouth for a reason.




Level -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:27:27 PM)

There is often more damage done by men, I agree, julia.




juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:28:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Level

There is often more damage done by men, I agree, julia.


It wasn't long ago it was legal for men to do it, too




Lockit -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:28:45 PM)

Okay, let me tell you my experience. I have had the most of dominant of men in vanilla relationships. You took one look at them and you knew you were dealing with a man so tough, they could handle most anything. Except me. I could handle the dom/dom personalities we had and so could they... what they couldn't handle was the emotional. The not being in control of everything life could throw at them. The fact that I was ill and they couldn't fix me and facing off with hospital staff or doctors that were cruel or negligent. Oh they were a man's man and boy the world knew it.... until me.

That man's man attitude got them in the door as I like a man's man... but it sure got them kicked out that same door.

Now, I have had submissive men that could handle me... my dominant personality... my illness... my smart and the man's man's world they were successful on any front I can think of. I don't break men. I love them and want them strong. But is he less a man because I call the shots? To me, the submissive men I have been involved with had more strength than the dominant men, but that doesn't mean all men are the same.

There are men of any type that can be broken... same goes for women.
Pussified isn't just men. People in general are pussified! And whether it is a these days thing or has always been, I couldn't say. I just gather around me the people I like and respect... and as they say on another thread... fuck the rest.




juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:31:15 PM)

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I believe there are times were some people need to be be told to shit down and shut up.  I also believe that sometimes that can be done out of respect and love for them. Often times people forget they have 2 ears and one mouth for a reason.



Like I said, a man can't give me the same respect I give him, he can get on down the fucking road with his bad ass alpha-maleness

Here is the deal, I don't yell at my man. I don't treat him like shit. I have this thing, I demand to be treated with the same respect I give, and if he can't do that, he isn't going to have me, period. I am not inferior to any man. A man that wants an inferior woman isn't my idea of a man, he is a fucking insecure mouse...


again, just me, etc




gungadin09 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:31:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Pussified isn't just men. People in general are pussified! And whether it is a these days thing or has always been, I couldn't say. I just gather around me the people I like and respect... and as they say on another thread... fuck the rest.


yes!

P.S.- finally, a thread that's not about breasts or panties!
pam




calamitysandra -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:32:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheRaptorJesus

Some of what you said happened when we got out of the 1950's and stopped pretending men and women weren't equal.

Edit to add: It may be hard for you to comprehend considering you're a submissive (or slut, implied by your name I suppose) who wants/has a "daddy", but not everyone has the same slew of daddy issues or beliefs that you may possess. Some people think that the measure of a person's character is through their heart and mind, not what dangles of moistens in their pants.

You know.. real reasons.




This!

I pretty much like living in a world in which I am on the same level as a man.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:33:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut


I was raised by a man, a stong alpha male. A man who would never let a woman (or women) dictate his behavior. He was strong, intelligent, noble, chivalrous, dependable, protective, nurturing, ambitious, respectful, honest, capable - all those qualities that I associate with being a man. NOT because a woman did/didn't do ____ to him - but because he was taught certain qualities or characteristics are inherent to being considered a man. He was taught by a man. He was truly an alpha male.

I like to think that as a woman, I  act in a manner that does allow a man to have all those qualities you mentioned.  I don't think dictate is the word I would use, but in my experience, the more I act like a woman, the more a man acts like a man, which makes me act more like a woman, and so on and so forth.

Just my 2 cents, since I read th OP 3 times and I still am not sure what you are saying.




littlewonder -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:35:12 PM)

Just because I'm attracted to men who are a dominant personality, who are the ones with the power within MY relationship doesn't mean I think it's right for all men to be this way or that all men are pussified otherwise.

It simply means that's what I'm attracted to.

My 18 yr old daughter points out all the time that the type of men I'm attracted to are not the type of men of today. They are "old-fashioned" and out of date. They don't have a clue about the real world..the world of men today who are equal to their partners, where both people in the relationship make the decisions together and the men are not the type who will take over and take control. They would rather everything be shared just as equally between them both. He's the type that is sensitive and has many female traits. It's what the younger generation are used to. It's what the men of today have become.

I don't see anything wrong with this persay. I simply find that I'm not attracted to them but that's ok because theyr'e waaaayyyy too young for me anyway and thankfully I have someone. :)





WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:36:09 PM)

Here's the thing. I think that any individual, I respect would be:
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strong, intelligent, noble, chivalrous/mannerly, dependable, protective, nurturing, ambitious, respectful, honest, capable
. These are not the qualities of ONLY a man, but of a respectable person in general. Further, not only the qualities of a dominant, but of a submissive as well.

I honestly don't know why it is so common today for individuals to blame others for their own personal character flaws, but wow, it definitely shows an inherent character flaw in the mindset of a society in general that perpetuates such a trend.




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:36:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Pussified isn't just men. People in general are pussified! And whether it is a these days thing or has always been, I couldn't say. I just gather around me the people I like and respect... and as they say on another thread... fuck the rest.



I agree with this statement totally. It's NOT just the men. But as I said these were questions and thoughts that kept popping my head so I thought I would posse them to others. And like you I dont know if it something that has always been or is just becoming but it is something that I am noticing more and more so it is making me wonder more and more.




Spartacus25 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:38:51 PM)

As someone who "puts (myself) on the same level as women", I find your rant ridiculous and insulting. Rest assured I don't want anything to do with you either.




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:39:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

A quick show of hands... how many women want to live in the same situation that the OP describes?

Just curious.



I dont think I possed a sitaution rather questions and ponderings of MY mind. Now do I expect others to think the way I do? Hell no. Lol It's not a popularity contest of believe to me.




juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:46:13 PM)

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I don't think dictate is the word I would use, but in my experience, the more I act like a woman, the more a man acts like a man, which makes me act more like a woman, and so on and so forth.


True




Spartacus25 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:46:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

A quick show of hands... how many women want to live in the same situation that the OP describes?

Just curious.



I dont think I possed a sitaution rather questions and ponderings of MY mind. Now do I expect others to think the way I do? Hell no. Lol It's not a popularity contest of believe to me.



You know, after further exposure to your failed logic and feeble grasp of the English language, I'm now comfortable in stating that you aren't on my "level". Perhaps we can be friends now?




Level -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 1:43:04 PM)

Yeah, being a dick will make you lots of friends.




pahunkboy -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 2:24:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

i don't know whether i agree with you or not. i like strong, ethical, aggressive men too, but i can't say i like alpha males. To me, that term refers to someone whose need to be in charge and get their way is so great, that is becomes almost a weakness, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. i can't tell if my definition of the term "REAL MAN" is the same, or different from yours. i don't like men who throw emotional fits and break furniture, or holler all the time. To me, that smacks of weakness, not strength. i want someone with strong feelings, and yet has the discipline to control those feelings, and be logical and fair, even when they're being harsh. i also want Someone who respects me, and respects my intelligence, even though He's the one in control. i can't tell if i am agreeing or disagreeing with you there.

i will agree with you on one thing. i think the PC thing is overdone, and i would much rather be with Someone who knows His mind and speaks directly and honestly, even bluntly and tactlessly, than with Someone who spends their time walking on eggshells. To me, that is a "pussified man".

Why do some men act like that? i don't know. i would guess it's probably pressures from society. There is a really strong PC pressure these days. i think it just intimidates some people. Having said that, i pride myself on standing up for what i believe in, even if it goes against what's popular. i would not respect a man who allowed himself to be defined by others, or who cowed to do what others wanted from him. i respect courage, integrity, and honesty above all else.

pam


Great post.


I don't care for the apha male either.   too much ego-  not impressive at all.

to me the alpha male is a turn off.

that is not the concept of being a strong male that I think of.

the alpha is a spoiled teen- who wants to think he is a man- but he is not.




gungadin09 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 2:57:24 PM)

Geez, pahunkboy, would you just stop posting for a while? i'm trying to catch up to you. Only 19,000 posts to go. 21,000, rather.

pam




pahunkboy -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 3:00:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

Geez, pahunkboy, would you just stop posting for a while? i'm trying to catch up to you. Only 19,000 posts to go. 21,000, rather.

pam



hehe.

Just play ball.  People will admire you by virtue of your participation.

Just be expressive and responsive to any thread.    Others will come to think of you as one of the regulars.

:-)






EbonyWood -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 3:00:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

Geez, pahunkboy, would you just stop posting for a while? i'm trying to catch up to you. Only 19,000 posts to go.

pam


His parrot made the first 10,000.
 
May it RIP.




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