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truckinslave -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 3:17:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave quote: The system is skewed way too far in favor of the small population states. Are you sufficiently consistent to call for abolishing the Senate? The Founders wanted States (and regions) to have some small amount of power in their own right. Got no problem with the Senate. It works as an upper house pretty well. But if you guys are so gung ho for the electoral college then let's repeal the 12th amendment and go back to what the founders actually intended. Actually, I'm all for that. It's hard for me to imagine that the fucked-up mishmash of unfunded mandates and unfunded liabilities we have today would exist under the original system.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 3:27:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen But if you guys are so gung ho for the electoral college then let's repeal the 12th amendment and go back to what the founders actually intended. And since at the Constitutional Convention, the electoral system is the compromise reached by the framers, youre right back to the electoral college, but without the clarification of the 12th amendment. Prior attempts at its repeal failed for just that reason.

Jeffff -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 3:31:01 PM)
Ok, who ARE you and what have you done with Willbeurdaddy?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 3:32:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Ok, who ARE you and what have you done with Willbeurdaddy? Must be you, my positions have always been consistent.

Jeffff -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 3:47:45 PM)
Nope, you're still full of shit on supply side economics. I will award you a draw on physics.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 4:04:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Nope, you're still full of shit on supply side economics. I will award you a draw on physics. FOS? What have I posted that is incorrect about supplyside economics? And if youre claiming that supply side itself is wrong, then youre going to have to disprove several thousand economists who disagree with you.

DomKen -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 6:38:19 PM)
I already proved you wrong on supply side economics. You had to resort to fudging a simple multiplication and then lying about it later. As to several thousand economists there are several thousand different economists who have already proven the supply siders wrong. Your side just hand waves away the papaers and goes right on pretending that it never happened. That's why supply siders publish in conservative political journals rather than econ journals now.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 6:48:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen I already proved you wrong on supply side economics. You had to resort to fudging a simple multiplication and then lying about it later. As to several thousand economists there are several thousand different economists who have already proven the supply siders wrong. Your side just hand waves away the papaers and goes right on pretending that it never happened. That's why supply siders publish in conservative political journals rather than econ journals now. Youve never proven me wrong on anything, and yes, there are economists who disagree about supply side. Surprise surprise surprise. Line up 3000 economists and youll get 3000 opinions about the color of the sky at night. There are tons of statistics that show that supply side theory is correct in the real world. Your ineptitude is staggering.

DomKen -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 9:18:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen I already proved you wrong on supply side economics. You had to resort to fudging a simple multiplication and then lying about it later. As to several thousand economists there are several thousand different economists who have already proven the supply siders wrong. Your side just hand waves away the papaers and goes right on pretending that it never happened. That's why supply siders publish in conservative political journals rather than econ journals now. Youve never proven me wrong on anything, and yes, there are economists who disagree about supply side. Surprise surprise surprise. Line up 3000 economists and youll get 3000 opinions about the color of the sky at night. There are tons of statistics that show that supply side theory is correct in the real world. Your ineptitude is staggering. I proved you wrong on your claims in regards to the disproven Laffer Curve. You had to incorrectly convert a value to try and make your claim look correct. I've shown you repeatedly that you are in error and you simply lied some more or ran away. I'll keep bringing it back up as long as you keep supporting supply side economics.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 10:00:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen I already proved you wrong on supply side economics. You had to resort to fudging a simple multiplication and then lying about it later. As to several thousand economists there are several thousand different economists who have already proven the supply siders wrong. Your side just hand waves away the papaers and goes right on pretending that it never happened. That's why supply siders publish in conservative political journals rather than econ journals now. Youve never proven me wrong on anything, and yes, there are economists who disagree about supply side. Surprise surprise surprise. Line up 3000 economists and youll get 3000 opinions about the color of the sky at night. There are tons of statistics that show that supply side theory is correct in the real world. Your ineptitude is staggering. I proved you wrong on your claims in regards to the disproven Laffer Curve. You had to incorrectly convert a value to try and make your claim look correct. I've shown you repeatedly that you are in error and you simply lied some more or ran away. I'll keep bringing it back up as long as you keep supporting supply side economics. You keep telling yourself that. Your self deception is amusing.

Termyn8or -> RE: The path to Dem victory in 2012...circumvent the Constitution (7/22/2010 10:15:13 PM)
"And why is that a Dem thing? Are you intimating that Republicans couldnt win a national popular vote? " Ron, if we had a real choice neither established party could ever win. T ETA, oops, sorry to bring up the original topic. T

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