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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/18/2006 4:41:50 PM

RavenMuse

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
Two basic rules seem to come from this.

One, try and find a local master. I've heard good things about the groups and munches in Australia.

Two, have nothing to do with a married man unless his wife is aware and consenting

I love how often you save me so much typing John. I thought of several lengthy replies to the OP but you sum up the gist of what I was going to say in just a couple of short sentences.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/18/2006 4:50:30 PM

JohnWarren

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

I love how often you save me so much typing John. I thought of several lengthy replies to the OP but you sum up the gist of what I was going to say in just a couple of short sentences.

[laugh] It's not that I'm naturally succinct. It just hurts to type.

I'm glad to hear the phone problem is solved. You were missed around here.

< Message edited by JohnWarren -- 4/18/2006 4:51:59 PM >

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/18/2006 7:39:00 PM

Gennifer

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Mnottertail...incredibly mean post. Not to mention non-sensical.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/18/2006 7:59:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gennifer

Mnottertail...incredibly mean post. Not to mention non-sensical.

Let me be of assistance....

** grabbing her mnottertail translation pocket dictionary **

This :

quote:

You need to develop some introspection in these matters and decide what is real, tangible and of any life-long value to you.

Translates to :

quote:

sub001
You people have lifted my spirits so much and i am deeply greatful...thank you again and again...ive read and re read your postings and i am finding myself thinking ...who WAS this woman ..this woman that gave so much of herself for so little in return..???..who was this woman that thought by being so submissive she could actually keep her self respect...(something my Master told me was the most important thing in this world.).and who was this woman that truly believed she wasnt worthy of the love ..respect and consideration a woman that only delivers half of what i do ..gets...that woman is slowly waking and realisng she is worthy of all of the above...and today i went out and bought myself some things to pamper myself with ...im going to take a nice long bath .light some candles..sip my favourite italian sparkling wine...and listen to some of my favourite music

looks to me she did exactly as mnottertail suggested, and many others

mbmbn

PS.. Ron: Hope you don't mind me taking liberties in translation.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/18/2006 8:07:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: sub001

You people have lifted my spirits so much and i am deeply greatful...thank you again and again...ive read and re read your postings and i am finding myself thinking ...who WAS this woman ..this woman that gave so much of herself for so little in return..???..who was this woman that thought by being so submissive she could actually keep her self respect...(something my Master told me was the most important thing in this world.).and who was this woman that truly believed she wasnt worthy of the love ..respect and consideration a woman that only delivers half of what i do ..gets...that woman is slowly waking and realisng she is worthy of all of the above...and today i went out and bought myself some things to pamper myself with ...im going to take a nice long bath .light some candles..sip my favourite italian sparkling wine...and listen to some of my favourite music..then im going to get online and start 'communicating' with other males..and take things very very slowly..if you were all close by id invite you in for a bath..lol..my heart is warmed by your 'thoughts'...i never understood this lifestyle or attraction ...now i have a better understanding of both....THANKYOU

While you're taking care of yourself and coming back to reality make sure you DUMP HIS ASS!!!

Sorry couldn't help myself...anyone have change for 2 cents

if you're in Australia you might drop an email to Lady Neets or her husband Iron Bear they can probably direct you towards a group in your area.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 12:59:33 AM

RavenMuse

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
[laugh] It's not that I'm naturally succinct. It just hurts to type.

Ah, that I can identify with. Better than holding a pen but even so.

quote:

I'm glad to hear the phone problem is solved. You were missed around here.

I passed a bit of the time reading a book by some strange man called John Warren. Good book, one I can hartily recomend

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And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 5:45:51 AM

Lashra

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Find yourself a real Dom, this guy is just into playing games and having his ego stroked. He doesn't give two squats about you, nor his wife, if he so he'd be acting differently. You deserve better so go out there and find it, don't let yourself be sucked into something thats only going to chew you up and spit you back out.

~Lashra

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 8:35:10 AM

JohnWarren

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
[laugh] It's not that I'm naturally succinct. It just hurts to type.

Ah, that I can identify with. Better than holding a pen but even so.

quote:

I'm glad to hear the phone problem is solved. You were missed around here.

I passed a bit of the time reading a book by some strange man called John Warren. Good book, one I can hartily recomend

You have great taste in literature [wink]

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 8:50:57 AM

mnottertail

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Gennifer,

I prefer to think of it as tough love. The non-sensical part is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Thank you for your insight.

Ron

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 8:52:48 AM

mnottertail

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Damn Mabe,

I couldn't have done better myself, in fact; I didn't, YOU did.

XO and thanks,
Ron

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/19/2006 5:15:16 PM

maybemaybenot

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yvw, mnottertail,

The next time, I think I will do it in American Sign Language however.

Hugs,
mbmbn

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/20/2006 2:21:44 PM

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I think that everyone who has responded with sound advice... I just wanted to add something

I recently left a relationship that was half online and half real life that lasted over 2 years. This person opened my eyes to the "lifestyle" as a "lifestyle". He lived 2000 miles away from me and if I did something he did not like he ignored me. It is the most painful thing I have ever been through, to be ignored for days at a time. I came to my conclusions that he was also a liar and a prick... Don't allow someone to inflict that kinda pain on you, NO ONE is worth that shit. It can cause you to have deep anxiety and depression, and believe me hun it is not fun.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/20/2006 5:18:48 PM

krikket

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Both are good points, but having been in this situation, i'd like to add that even with the wife's "agreement" to please proceed with caution. i had "her" blessings, but the relationship proceeded faster and deeper than any of us had thought possible..it was "only" on line after all (or so we told ourselves). The reason i suggest the caution is that wives often change their mind --- which is what happened in my case, or..unless you really talk with her face to face it's almost impossible to know it isn't another lie to both you and the wife (which is what happened with my husband and his on-line sub). my (ex)hubby and his lies were long gone before my own relationship started, so i thought i knew the pitfalls. The feelings are incredibly real, and can totally take over your life, making you unwell... so, please, before anything else, get someone you can talk with (local if possible, if not, please feel free to email me).

God bless...and good luck
jimini

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Two basic rules seem to come from this.

One, try and find a local master. I've heard good things about the groups and munches in Australia.

Two, have nothing to do with a married man unless his wife is aware and consenting

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/21/2006 11:28:28 AM

MasterRobert1

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You're playing a game and so is he, and it has nothing to do with Dominance and submission. I think you should take a long look at yourselves. Number one point (and I CANNOT emphasize it too much) is that a D/s relationship is built on honesty and integrity. I repeat, honesty and integrity. Your relationship with this person is neither honest nore does it contain the essential element of integrity. Take offense if you will, but this is what is wrong with so many "D/s" relationships I see.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/21/2006 11:49:25 AM

Reasonable

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I admit I'm shaking my head over this one. Does this sot of dynamic entertain you?

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/21/2006 5:55:04 PM

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Dear Logan Strange,

I admire your compassion when you know that others would attack. i think we all need to remember that not everyone is in the same mental,emotional, spiritual space as we are and treat them with respect while pointing out the wisdom they should know. and thank you for the off hand compliment about being one who truely desires to serve. becuase if i was in her boat and have been in the past i would have felt it so i must truely also have a desire to serve. :)

namaste

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/21/2006 7:43:02 PM

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As one who is a healer and lightworker adn very human submissive female i also need to advise that sub001 if you are not seeking help for some of the issues you have highlighted, you might benefit from it.. i too have abandonment issues, i too have gone through things like you mentioned. i have been blessed to find a counselor who is lifestyle friendly and healers who are largely lifestyle friendly. with ptsd and/or rape trauma a woman needs assistance in helping herself heal. it is not enough to say. i have been through this and so its not fair for me to be treated like this. you need to take a long hard look at who you are and why you permit yourself to be treated this way. you need to look at how to avoid or face up to your abandonment triggers etc...you need to get past the past while honoring yourself for the courage and dignity and strength you have shown.

i recognize that this is a long topic and i do not wish to step on anyones toes, but i needed to say this.

the 24/7 number to a fabulous Philadelphia organization is 215-985-3333 Women Organized Against Rape. If you dont live near me please find your local equivalent.

Dont wait for life to treat you better. You start to treat yourself better and life will follow.

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/21/2006 10:19:09 PM

LaMalinche

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Is it just me, or is her profile gone?

One more popcorn meeting. . .

Best,

LaMalinche

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RE: my Master ignored me - 4/22/2006 6:17:49 AM

sweetecho

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Dearest sub001,

i wonder how much older i am than You are, and within the past month i have been through two such Masters, much like the One You describe here. i cannot say how i ended up in my situation, as i am sure You cannot say really how you got yourself into yours. It is not because we are stupid. We are exceedingly sensitive and profoundly feeling. We know this.

For myself, i am attracted to foreigners. i am attracted to what is different, exotic, and new to me. i have always had a general rule of not becoming involved in long-distance relationships and never, ever with a married Man. However, somehow that Master convinced me that things were OK, and i broke my own rules. Fortunately, this Master and i ----and i say this, too, about you and Your prospective Master --- did not get a chance to meet. This is the good news. We were spared.

i am so happy to find other extremely sensitive submissives here. i am not happy that You were hurt, and you are right --- abandonment does not work for us as a punishment. We are much easier to get along with than that. We are extremely pliable, trusting, and loving. It is close to criminal to hurt us because of our innocence, and maybe Men who hurt us emotionally should go to jail for it. There should be a Really Big Daddy to whom we could report these guys.

i have never been abused by any Man. i have never been raped. Yet, i cannot handle isolation or abandonment or being made lonely because of it. i just cannot. It takes me to the edge.

i have not been formally released by the last Master who had me under consideration and who had placed me under a three-day punishment for phoning Him without having asked first. The three days came and went two days ago. Mind you, this is the second Master in a row who has disappeared. While i finally was able to reach the first Master and beg to be released from His consideration, the episode with Him was too fresh in my mind for me to be able to handle another abandonment.

i finally got a hold of myself today and decided i would not lose my mind and i would not become stricken with paralysis as in not being able to eat, sleep and all those things that happen to subs in such circumstances, and that i must make myself snap out of it. So here i am. i have also deleted all His letters and photos and all record of the time i spent with Him. i am sharing myself here with other people rather than allowing myself to become isolated. You are going to be OK, just as i am.

i want You to know, just between You and me, that because of Your nature, You may fall prey to a Man again. We want to tell other people we have learned something and that it won't happen again because even we believe we are stupid for what we do, but it is like telling a zebra not to have stripes. Our best hope and best remedy is finding a superior Master who can handle a lot of woman and who thrives on our attention and worship and knows He is made stronger by it.

i appreciate You because i know what You are, and i will pray that You find the One True Master of your heart.

Sincerely,

sweetecho

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