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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:10:39 PM   
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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:16:45 PM   
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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:19:51 PM   
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We have a black president. I think that settles it.


What exactly does it settle Popeye?

Does it settle the fact we have a bunch of old white men screaming racism?

Because apparently white men have faced a lifetime of discrimination by the black oppressors.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:22:54 PM   
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Are you really this simple?

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:27:54 PM   
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We have a black president. I think that settles it.



Only if he gets re-elected. Anybody who doesn't vote for him in '12 is a racist, and if he loses, it's because we are all racists.


Firm, I saw Webb's article and hoped it would be one of the thinking conservatives here who posted it. Thanks.

One point where I completely agree with him is in the assertion that racial preferences and set asides only serve to perpetuate racist attitudes, and push them forward onto the following generations.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:32:35 PM   
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We have a black president. I think that settles it.



Only if he gets re-elected. Anybody who doesn't vote for him in '12 is a racist, and if he loses, it's because we are all racists.


Firm, I saw Webb's article and hoped it would be one of the thinking conservatives here who posted it. Thanks.

One point where I completely agree with him is in the assertion that racial preferences and set asides only serve to perpetuate racist attitudes, and push them forward onto the following generations.


I guess that must be it Richie.

You "thinking conservatives" seem to focus quite a bit on race though.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:37:02 PM   
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You "thinking conservatives" seem to focus quite a bit on race though.




Not nearly as much as unthinking liberals do...

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:41:28 PM   
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You "thinking conservatives" seem to focus quite a bit on race though.




Not nearly as much as unthinking liberals do...


Yes, we do tend to discriminate against the white majority.

If only there was an organization to stand up for the white man.


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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:46:12 PM   
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You "thinking conservatives" seem to focus quite a bit on race though.




Not nearly as much as unthinking liberals do...
There is no fucking such animal Rich....the very presence of "liberal",or as some prefer,progressive ,ideology can only be arrived at through thinking and reasoning.
It is the absence of same which causes one to be a conservative....content with the status quo....not willing to do the necessary thinking required to understnd that a statis position is unnatural to the human animal.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:48:14 PM   
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* My comment remains the same after reading your edit. BULLSHIT!

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 6:48:56 PM   
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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 7:14:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		*facepalm* really-this again? ok, #1, the NAACP is not a racist organisation. the point is LEVEL the playing field of race relations. Stop getting so hung up on the word "advancement". I'm glad you lot understand what the definition of it is, but the NAACP is not for the advancement of coloured people OVER caucasian people so that the coloured folk can rule the USA.#2, the tea party isn't racist. the media often(if not, always) decides to choose the biggest, dumbest, racist that they can find to talk on camera and the claim to be part of the teaparty. The same applies to the NAACP. #3Affirmative action is not racist. Once again- its to LEVEL the playing field. And to those who cling to AA and other ethnicity organisations are racist, you always "forget" to state to whom they are racist against. Now, are we done here?

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 7:17:27 PM   
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Now that is just flat bullshit, Mike.

* My comment remains the same after reading your edit. BULLSHIT!
Surely you understand that I never intended for you to like nor accept my viewpoints......after all you are an unthinking conservative...to be sure not quite as unthinking as some of your ilk(sanity and willbuuur come to mind) but a conservative all the same
check your mailbox.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 7:46:59 PM   
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Perhaps you will like it better with its edits.....



No, Mike. I can't say I do. I think you have it completely wrong.

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the very presence of "liberal",or as some prefer,progressive ,ideology can only be arrived at through thinking and reasoning.
It is the absence of same which causes one to be a conservative....content with the status quo....not willing to do the necessary thinking required to understnd that a statis position is unnatural to the human animal.



The bleeding heart liberal instinct is one of feeling, not reasoning. It is an ideology based on "awwwww." It is only when thought comes into play that we get questions like, "is that ice thick enough?," or, "how are we gonna pay for this, exactly?," or, the always popular, "are you fucking stupid?,". Those are conservative questions.

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 7:57:41 PM   
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So sayeth the fat old white man.
Hey!! what's wrong with being a fat old white guy?

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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 8:05:00 PM   
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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 8:07:21 PM   
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Well the fallacy in the article is to conflate all white people into a single class.

Because the real unexamined story in America is class, even more than race.

Poor whites do have some justification for getting annoyed at hearing about "white priviledge"- many a blue collar stiff looks around his double wide and syas wft? when he hears that phrase.

But the truth is, the wealthy and priviledged class oppresses both poor whites and for most of our history, black people in general. The fact that there is now a black middle class doesn't change the fact that it is easier for white people than black to climb the ladder.

The real scandal is that the ladder is swiftly receding up into the stratosphere for poor people of all color; for the past few decades, the middle class has in fact shrunk, and the rich are in fact getting richer. no one even disputes this anymore.

So for working class whites and blacks to stand araound bitching at each other might make the banksters at Goldman Sachs smirk, it doesn't do anything to help the real problems we face.

Look at these people to see the class divide in person.




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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 8:08:34 PM   
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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 8:41:09 PM   
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Well the fallacy in the article is to conflate all white people into a single class.

Because the real unexamined story in America is class, even more than race.




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RE: James Webb: Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege - 7/23/2010 11:17:28 PM   
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Well the fallacy in the article is to conflate all white people into a single class.


It's interesting to see that you agree with Webb's point, even if you apparently didn't read the article.

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