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rulemylife -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/27/2010 1:05:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Our medical records won't even be as safe as these top secret files, under Obamacare.



Way to stay on point there Sanity.




rulemylife -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/27/2010 1:15:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I dont think the files should ever be released while troops are still fighting in the field though, and I have to wonder at just how wikileaks got hold of them.


The idea that we need to suppress information to protect our troops is wrong on so many levels I hardly know where to begin.

But let's start with this, wasn't the suppression of information or the unintentional disinformation, depending on who you want to believe, the reason both our countries became involved in Iraq? 




Politesub53 -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/27/2010 3:38:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I dont think the files should ever be released while troops are still fighting in the field though, and I have to wonder at just how wikileaks got hold of them.


The idea that we need to suppress information to protect our troops is wrong on so many levels I hardly know where to begin.

But let's start with this, wasn't the suppression of information or the unintentional disinformation, depending on who you want to believe, the reason both our countries became involved in Iraq? 



Iraq and the issue, make that non issue, of WMD`s is a whole different ball game. I just dont think telling the enemy what troops operate where and in what manner helps the soldier on the ground.




Politesub53 -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/27/2010 3:40:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain


The guy who started the website is British and it has nothing to do with Iran. Nobody has an agenda, they just put on the website what whistleblowers report.



Wrong again Brain, he is Australian.




eihwaz -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/27/2010 4:44:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
The idea that we need to suppress information to protect our troops is wrong on so many levels I hardly know where to begin.

Disclosure of operational information (e.g., troop locations, battle plans) almost certainly does endanger troops in the field.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
But let's start with this, wasn't the suppression of information or the unintentional disinformation, depending on who you want to believe, the reason both our countries became involved in Iraq? 

My impression was that BushCheney propagandized the case for the war pretty much in plain sight.  They certainly cherry picked -- not to mention lied -- but what information was suppressed?




thompsonx -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/29/2010 5:30:19 PM)

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Disclosure of operational information (e.g., troop locations, battle plans) almost certainly does endanger troops in the field.


Are you suggesting that the taliban does not know where the troops are?
Where are any current tactical data revealed?




AnimusRex -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/29/2010 5:39:13 PM)

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We went into Afghanistan originally to:
1. Capture OBL, and;
2. Deny Al-Queda a safe place to operate.

I think it is safe to say we have failed at objective #1, and will likely never achieve it, unless we stumble across his mummified corpse sometime in 2150;
We actually succeeded at driving AQ out of Afghanistan-(good news!); but they have now set up shop in Pakistan, our supposed ally (bad news!) And it also appears that AQ can set up shop just about anywhere in the world where there is a non-existant or corrupt government;

So as citizens we need to ask ourselves what we are doing in Afghanistan, and if it is worth any more American boys dying.




thompsonx -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/29/2010 5:48:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

FR-
We went into Afghanistan originally to:
1. Capture OBL, and;
2. Deny Al-Queda a safe place to operate.

I think it is safe to say we have failed at objective #1, and will likely never achieve it, unless we stumble across his mummified corpse sometime in 2150;
We actually succeeded at driving AQ out of Afghanistan-(good news!); but they have now set up shop in Pakistan, our supposed ally (bad news!) And it also appears that AQ can set up shop just about anywhere in the world where there is a non-existant or corrupt government;

So as citizens we need to ask ourselves what we are doing in Afghanistan, and if it is worth any more American boys dying.



My answer is an unqualified "bring em home...bring em home now"




Brain -> RE: Top secret files on Afghanistan war reveal hundreds of unreported civilian deaths (7/29/2010 6:56:20 PM)

I think if it's true people's lives are put in danger because this information was released then I don't think it should have been done. And that includes soldiers and Afghan citizens providing information.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I dont think the files should ever be released while troops are still fighting in the field though, and I have to wonder at just how wikileaks got hold of them.


The idea that we need to suppress information to protect our troops is wrong on so many levels I hardly know where to begin.

But let's start with this, wasn't the suppression of information or the unintentional disinformation, depending on who you want to believe, the reason both our countries became involved in Iraq? 






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