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Marini -> RE: What would it take to actually secure the border with Mexico? (7/27/2010 6:59:11 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Personally I find it distressing that folks ,who up till this point I held in some regard,actually believe militirizing our border is a viable and workable solution.The funny thing is none who advocate this have even contemplated that this is not the sort of mission our military trains for.Soldiers are not law enforcement personel....but as long as we go with servants shoot first,screw the questions idea that should be an issue.
Actually, it does. Soldiers of the National Guard have been brought in specifically to police people many times where there has been a state of emergency. That includes having to handle a situation such as this. I don't think that you're suggesting that the INS has superior training to our Nation's military.
The thread original asked what would work. Militarizing the boarder would work. A wall would work. The Berlin wall, in it's four different phases, worked for twenty-eight years. That's a pretty effective wall.
This is a bit over the top, but people need to start thinking of the United States less as a country of unlimited resources for the world and start thinking of it with the realization that we have limited means. If you had some type of emergency shelter that had enough food, water, and medical supplies to sustain a dozen people for the six months you needed to stay in there, if there was an emergency, you and eleven people would go in it. You wouldn't invite the whole neighborhood along. Even if you stretched a bit and let more people in, at some point, you would have to say it is holding all that it can and there just wasn't enough resources for everybody.
LadyPact, I have said the same exact thing that you have said, so many times around here it is not even funny.
Most people here will not understand the statements you just typed.
We have a never ending source of unlimited resources here, and we can take every disadvantaged person into this country from all over the world, and we can and should provide them with food, clothing, education, shelter, medical and hospital care, and everything else.
America has a bottomless pit of resources, and it is our duty to not only welcome but to encourage all the poor and downtrodden people in South America, to come here and we will take care of them.
It is the American way!
The following facts MEAN nothing to most here:
The fact that unemployment is near 20% in some area's, we have no idea how high it is because so many have just stopped looking.
The fact that many people are seriously underemployed and basically desperate, and willing to do just about anything to make money.
The fact that we have millions of people that are American citizens that continue to have no health or medical insurance.
The fact that it is so bad that many communities are laying off teachers, and many don't realize how large class sizes are becoming in public schools and don't care.
lol
The fact that we have thousands of people considered the working poor that are living in shelters and motels because they don't make enough to pay rent and take care of their families.
I am not even going to mention the money being spent on two wars, and the emotional and financial costs of the never ending wars.
The fact that many, many working people are going to soup kitchens because they are still running out of food and can't feed their families.
I have posted several threads on this topic.
We have many, many people already living here that need more help than it appears we can provide.
So naturally, we need thousands and thousands of people to come here at this time, and partake of the feast of plenty.
In fact, if you dare say anything about "limited resources", or the fact that we may not be able to take care of millions of more poor people that are pouring into this country {and no one really knows how many are here or how many are coming as I type these words}, and that this is not 1922 at Ellis Island, and we don't need millions of more poor people coming into this country to help build this country up, you will soon be called racist.
In fact, I actually believe that there is a segment of people that enjoy seeing millions of people strolling across our borders to add to the current situation.
The fact that people don't comprehend what we are saying, speaks volumes on how bad off our country is as we spiral downward.
America is the Land of Oz, all we have to do is encourage every disadvantaged person in the world to just come here legally or illegally, and then they can stay and we can take care of them.
President Obama will soon pull out the big magic stick, and everything is going to be okay.
*Or else it is surely his fault, lol.
The boat is big enough and we have enough resources for everyone in the world.
Let's now hold hands and sing Kumbayah.
Personally, I believe we are viewing the "end of an era", and we are moving towards a much larger and powerful government state, at this point, I don't see any other way.
And we will deserve the government run country that we allowed to be created, because there are going to be just too many people that NEED the government to provide for there every need.
Peace
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