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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:01:30 PM   
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[image]http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=44375[/image] is the pic that was in Kens post...same as the post I quoted
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3275828
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3274537
and RMLS post
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3277715

You ignored it, slunk off in denial again



Along with the following information from the site
On Saturday, June 19, 2010, oil spread northeast from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil appears as a maze of silvery-gray ribbons in this photo-like image from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite. The location of the leaking well is marked with a white dot. North of the well, a spot of black may be smoke; reports from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say that oil and gas continue to be captured and burned as part of the emergency response efforts. The large image provided above is at MODIS’ maximum spatial resolution (level of detail). Twice-daily images of the Gulf of Mexico are available from the MODIS Rapid Response Team in additional resolutions and formats, including a georeferenced version that can be used in Google Earth

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:21:23 PM   
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You're looking at this from an extremely slanted viewpoint, and seem completely unaware of how blatantly hateful and blindly partisan you are. Get a clue, its not about me - try to discuss the facts of the article, and focus on me a little less if thats possible.



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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:23:37 PM   
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Thats a fine strawman Louve00.

You don't know me at all, and you sure as hell don't know me as well as you have convinced yourself that you do.

But at least you can discuss the topic some, which puts you ahead of several others here. For that, kudos.

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Thats just it Sanity.  You think BP's fuck up is a political strategy.  That this was only done to help aid Obama in god knows what.  If you choose to call that blatantly hateful and blindly partisan then what do you want me to admit.  Would you like me to admit I hate BP for not taking the precautions that it should have.  And I'm blind to any partisanship they may have.   It takes alot for me to hate...even BP, believe it or not.  Boycott their products, yes.  Hate them for loving money, no...just feel sorry for them there.  Blindness to partisanship.  Well, since this isn't a pollically motivated happening, the reactions, which may be political, I have nothing to do with. Take all that to BP, who enabled to president to gain off of them, if thats how you're looking at it.  


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:28:58 PM   
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oh yes she does.

You seem to reveal yourself daily with your fringe stream of consciousness.



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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:29:53 PM   
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That sig line is just for you rml, since you seem able to focus only on my shirt.

I like the shirt, and get a ton of cmail telling me how great the photo is.

I see you linked to The Coasters's "Charlie Brown" song. Do you like the Coasters?

Or, more to the point, do you ever feel like it would be nice to reasonably discuss a given topic?

Are you capable of doing that? Or are you limited to commenting on my shirt due to some kind of mental issue.


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You're looking at this from an extremely slanted viewpoint, and seem completely unaware of how blatantly hateful and blindly partisan you are. Get a clue, its not about me - try to discuss the facts of the article, and focus on me a little less if thats possible.



Why's everybody always pickin' on me?





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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:37:33 PM   
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I didn't ignore it, I bolded the same part then that I am  bolding below which proves and proved my argument, and I believe I even thanked you for backing me up on it. "The slick is represented by ribbons of oil..." not the entire muddy gulf as domken and Louve00 tried to falsely represent.

Your confusion probably stems from the fact that I typically I ignore you (along with the other haters who are largely incapable of commenting reasonably).


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

[image]http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=44375[/image] is the pic that was in Kens post...same as the post I quoted
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3275828
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3274537
and RMLS post
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3277715

You ignored it, slunk off in denial again



Along with the following information from the site
On Saturday, June 19, 2010, oil spread northeast from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil appears as a maze of silvery-gray ribbons in this photo-like image from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite. The location of the leaking well is marked with a white dot. North of the well, a spot of black may be smoke; reports from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say that oil and gas continue to be captured and burned as part of the emergency response efforts. The large image provided above is at MODIS’ maximum spatial resolution (level of detail). Twice-daily images of the Gulf of Mexico are available from the MODIS Rapid Response Team in additional resolutions and formats, including a georeferenced version that can be used in Google Earth


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:39:31 PM   
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Gotta hand it to you Sanity.

You nicely side stepped the post dealing with amounts of oil rolling around under the water.  As well as the issue of the amount of dispersant used and the toxic effect it may have on the marine life.

BTW the first step in the surface oil disappearing so quickly was breaking it up with the dispersant.  So your going to give Obama a hand for approving the use so much of it at one time?

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:42:21 PM   
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The article I linked to addressed the oil under the surface, so why should I waste my time chasing your ridiculous red herrings? Microbes are eating the oil and its really good news. I don't understand why this seems so depressing to all of you, its absolutely driving you crazy and I'd think that you would be cheering about this.

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Gotta hand it to you Sanity.

You nicely side stepped the post dealing with amounts of oil rolling around under the water.  As well as the issue of the amount of dispersant used and the toxic effect it may have on the marine life.

BTW the first step in the surface oil disappearing so quickly was breaking it up with the dispersant.  So your going to give Obama a hand for approving the use so much of it at one time?



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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:42:54 PM   
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Depends.....

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:53:46 PM   
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Yeah, it was.  Because I read the source quote and saw it on other sites to boot.
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Thats not domkens pic thornhappy, and you know that.

What I pointed out at the time was that the Gulf water is muddy, and thats what the photo showed. NASA never tried to claim that the muddy water in the Gulf was really oil, that you couldn't see the water for the oil, which was the entire premise for domkens farce from the beginning.

For you to try to claim now that the gulf water was hardly visible over the entire gulf at any time is whats odd, so far from the reality that its beyond laughable, its craziness.

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Are you saying NASA fabricated it? Cause, damn, I've seen you post some crazy shit before but to call that a fabrication is amazing.

Go here for a slide show of photos starting 7/19, straight from the source:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/oilspill/index.html

BTW, it includes a whole bunch of other imagery data.


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 6:56:07 PM   
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The article I linked to addressed the oil under the surface, so why should I waste my time chasing your ridiculous red herrings? Microbes are eating the oil and its really good news. I don't understand why this seems so depressing to all of you, its absolutely driving you crazy and I'd think that you would be cheering about this.

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Gotta hand it to you Sanity.

You nicely side stepped the post dealing with amounts of oil rolling around under the water.  As well as the issue of the amount of dispersant used and the toxic effect it may have on the marine life.

BTW the first step in the surface oil disappearing so quickly was breaking it up with the dispersant.  So your going to give Obama a hand for approving the use so much of it at one time?




Uhmmm no, but thank you for playing.

All the article says is there are THOUSANDS of small patches of oil under the surface,  but hey we don't see them up top so we can say it has disappeared.

There has been an ongoing battle between several scientific groups and BP about those oil plumes under the surface.  BP had been denying once again that there is any problem under the surface.

There is no good news yet.  There is only hopeful news.  There is still much concern over how much oil sank to the bottom and how much is still suspended in the habitat. 

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:06:14 PM   
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Okay, maybe it is. I've been looking for domkens thread but don't have the time or the patience tonight to find it.


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Yeah, it was.  Because I read the source quote and saw it on other sites to boot.


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:11:50 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_3274537/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3275828
this one???
I posted the link earlier up the page


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:18:37 PM   
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All the article says is there are THOUSANDS of small patches of oil under the surface,  but hey we don't see them up top so we can say it has disappeared.

There has been an ongoing battle between several scientific groups and BP about those oil plumes under the surface.  BP had been denying once again that there is any problem under the surface.

There is no good news yet.  There is only hopeful news.  There is still much concern over how much oil sank to the bottom and how much is still suspended in the habitat. 



Out of sight out of mind.

Which has been BP's strategy from the beginning.

Let's not forget Tony Hayward's comments:

On 20 April 2010, an explosion occurred on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, operated by BP. Eleven people were killed in the blast and oil began to leak from the ocean floor at a rate variously estimated to be between 5,000 and 100,000 barrels per day.

 Hayward, and BP in general, initially downplayed the spill, stating on 17 May 2010 that the environmental impact of the Gulf spill would likely be "very very modest" and calling the spill "relatively tiny" in comparison with the size of the ocean.


(Tony Hayward - Wikipedia)





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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:25:00 PM   
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That sig line is just for you rml, since you seem able to focus only on my shirt.

I like the shirt, and get a ton of cmail telling me how great the photo is.

I see you linked to The Coasters's "Charlie Brown" song. Do you like the Coasters?

Or, more to the point, do you ever feel like it would be nice to reasonably discuss a given topic?

Are you capable of doing that? Or are you limited to commenting on my shirt due to some kind of mental issue.


Nah!

But I like your tree too.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:43:23 PM   
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The picture is nothing, I recommend you go see it in person, in the Hoh rain forest. Its very peaceful. Give yourself two weeks in there at least...

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Nah!

But I like your tree too.



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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:50:18 PM   
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Experts: Gulf of Mexico Oil is Breaking Up


LIARS,

Experts were paid by BP to go to universities and say the oil has disappeared. It hasn't disappeared it’s throughout thousands of square miles throughout the Gulf mixed with the dispersants and because the temperature down there is so cold the oil will be around for decades.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38458741

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 7:52:47 PM   
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Whistleblower charges the EPA with downplaying the environmental impact of oil disaster - Criminal probe of oil spill to focus on 3 firms and their ties to regulators

A team of federal investigators known as the "BP squad" is assembling in New Orleans to conduct a wide-ranging criminal probe that will focus on at least three companies and examine whether their cozy relations with federal regulators contributed to the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, according to law enforcement and other sources.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/27/AR2010072706052.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38458741

BP is under investigation by the SEC the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Jane Luchenko director of the national oceanic and atmospheric administration said that the oil is harder to find but the natural resources Defense Council annual report on beaches found no downturn in the number of beach closures. The NRDC report said the number of beach closures is roughly 10 times more than last year and it predicts the impact will last for years.

The only real purpose of using dispersants with the oil was to cover up the volume of oil that was going into the Gulf released from that well. It is a mechanism for BP to save billions of dollars in fines. The dispersants mixed with the oil is extremely toxic. If they did not use dispersants they would have been able to get that oil.

Experts were paid by BP to go to universities and say the oil has disappeared. It hasn't disappeared it’s throughout thousands of square miles throughout the Gulf mixed with the dispersants and because the temperature down there is so cold the oil will be around for decades.

If they did not use dispersants they would have been able to get most of the oil off of the surface and would not have harmed all of the fish

It is a lie to say that the oil has disappeared. It hasn't disappeared and it will be around for decades.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38458741


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/28/2010 8:14:15 PM   
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The picture is nothing, I recommend you go see it in person, in the Hoh rain forest. Its very peaceful. Give yourself two weeks in there at least...




TIME OUT!


I'll bet it is just fucking beautiful there. Two weeks in a place like that could heal a mans soul...


TIME IN!

Back to snarking now.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 3:28:01 AM   
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Cue the conspiracy theorists

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quote:

Experts: Gulf of Mexico Oil is Breaking Up


LIARS,

Experts were paid by BP to go to universities and say the oil has disappeared. It hasn't disappeared it’s throughout thousands of square miles throughout the Gulf mixed with the dispersants and because the temperature down there is so cold the oil will be around for decades.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38458741


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