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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 8:18:22 AM   
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From left-leaning Time Magazine:

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The BP Spill: Has the Damage Been Exaggerated?


President Obama has called the BP oil spill "the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced," and so has just about everyone else. Green groups are sounding alarms about the "Catastrophe Along the Gulf Coast," while CBS, Fox and MSNBC slap "Disaster in the Gulf" chryons on all their spill-related news. Even BP fall guy Tony Hayward, after some early happy talk, admitted the spill was an "environmental catastrophe." The obnoxious anti-environmentalist Rush Limbaugh has been a rare voice arguing that the spill — he calls it "the leak" — is anything less than an ecological calamity, scoffing at the avalanche of end-is-nigh eco-hype.


Well, Rush has a point.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html#ixzz0v5JdMb4s


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 12:10:03 PM   
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From left-leaning Time Magazine:

quote:

The BP Spill: Has the Damage Been Exaggerated?


President Obama has called the BP oil spill "the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced," and so has just about everyone else. Green groups are sounding alarms about the "Catastrophe Along the Gulf Coast," while CBS, Fox and MSNBC slap "Disaster in the Gulf" chryons on all their spill-related news. Even BP fall guy Tony Hayward, after some early happy talk, admitted the spill was an "environmental catastrophe." The obnoxious anti-environmentalist Rush Limbaugh has been a rare voice arguing that the spill — he calls it "the leak" — is anything less than an ecological calamity, scoffing at the avalanche of end-is-nigh eco-hype.


Well, Rush has a point.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html#ixzz0v5JdMb4s



Are there any sources that you don't believe are left-leaning except for FOX and the WSJ?

But more to the point, you make posts about the beauty of the area you live in and post pictures of the nature you enjoy.

How would you feel if this happened in your backyard and was being minimized?

Because it is happening in my backyard and I don't appreciate the attempts to downplay the impact of what happened and is still happening.





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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 12:20:29 PM   
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So Sanity,

Your saying Obama did a great job orchestrating the clean up. 



No, the environmental impact and cleanup needed was exaggerated from the start.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 12:25:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm with rml, its in my back yard and I resent people saying its over-exaggerated.  Or that call this whole thing a hoax for political reasons.  Oil companies wanted to drill in deep waters.  They showed us how much research they did to be qualified to do that job.  In my opinion, they failed. 

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 4:44:32 PM   
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I didn't ignore it, I bolded the same part then that I am  bolding below which proves and proved my argument, and I believe I even thanked you for backing me up on it. "The slick is represented by ribbons of oil..." not the entire muddy gulf as domken and Louve00 tried to falsely represent.

Your confusion probably stems from the fact that I typically I ignore you (along with the other haters who are largely incapable of commenting reasonably).


A) Ken didnt say anything in the first post about the whole gulf being slicked up
He said sometimes a pic is worth a thousand words
Neither did Louve
Laurell said.... in respoinse to PA
You countered with it being photoshopped etc etc
Neither Ken or Louve mentioned it all being oil, it wasnt even mentioned in the article except by random posters
So you are LYING AGAIN
Backpeddling, obfuscating and out and out bullshitting
Louve in fact said in post 23
No one suggested the whole gulf was filled with oil.
your angle on the truth is nothing like what has been supported by what was actually typed.yanno...... verifiable truth.

My confusion is more to do with how you constantly think you can get away with it.
And also proof positive you dont ignore me, SNORTS




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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 8:10:30 PM   
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Are there any sources that you don't believe are left-leaning except for FOX and the WSJ?


You didn't even read the quoted article, did you. Else you would have taken note of their bitter attack on Rush Limbaugh...

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But more to the point, you make posts about the beauty of the area you live in and post pictures of the nature you enjoy.

How would you feel if this happened in your backyard and was being minimized?

Because it is happening in my backyard and I don't appreciate the attempts to downplay the impact of what happened and is still happening.






Its not being minimized, its being brought into perspective. There are fires here, mud slides, all kinds of disasters. But nature is resilient, which is the point of the OP and thankfully this isn't nearly as bad as all the gloom and doom environmental fundies had hoped that it would be. Nature recovers.



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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/29/2010 8:30:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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So Sanity,

Your saying Obama did a great job orchestrating the clean up. 



No, the environmental impact and cleanup needed was exaggerated from the start.



Is that,the new spin?


What happened to Obama dropped the ball?

What happened to Obama`s Katrina?

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 3:33:13 AM   
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Obama golfed and partied and vacationed and totally dropped the ball on the spill but the Press didn't go after Obama anything like they did with Bush and Katrina. Thats what happened to it.

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Is that,the new spin?


What happened to Obama dropped the ball?

What happened to Obama`s Katrina?


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 3:54:38 AM   
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Its not being minimized, its being brought into perspective. There are fires here, mud slides, all kinds of disasters. But nature is resilient, which is the point of the OP and thankfully this isn't nearly as bad as all the gloom and doom environmental fundies had hoped that it would be. Nature recovers.



That remains to be seen.

The oil didn't just magically disappear.

Yes, some was removed, some was dispersed, and some was taken care of by nature, but I think it is naive to believe a spill of this size just suddenly vanished.

And my worst fear is it is below the surface and will get picked up by the currents and brought around to the east coast.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 4:06:28 AM   
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Theres nothing "magically" about it. Its being destroyed by the heat and the microbes and the fact that its a very light crude that dissipates relatively easily. Its a big ocean, too - and the amount of oil vs. the amount of sea water gives the ocean a big advantage.


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 4:25:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lets see if all the fishermen and wildlife and sealife agree with you, Sanity.  Time will prove what you say.  For right now though, its a poluted Gulf and no amount of ignoring it...pretending it will 'clean itself' is going to convince me.  Nature cleans itself from natural disasters.  Oil spills aren't natual disasters.  They're disasters made by greedy men who would rather take the chance of a disaster happening, then losing a quick chance at profit and money at the expense of it all.

And thank you Lucy for pointing out to Sanity what I really said.  Not that he didn't know it, if he went back to his old thread and reposted the bolded parts of his article back then.  I just get tired of repeating myself and it wasn't worth the effort, to me.


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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 5:45:37 AM   
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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 8:47:13 AM   
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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 8:54:21 AM   
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Obama golfed and partied and vacationed and totally dropped the ball on the spill but the Press didn't go after Obama anything like they did with Bush and Katrina. Thats what happened to it.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Is that,the new spin?


What happened to Obama dropped the ball?

What happened to Obama`s Katrina?



You seem to be unable understand the difference between Katrina and a man made disaster created through negligence, but you always seem to be able to discern the republican from the democrat.

Why is that?

All that Obama could have done was have gotten the skimmers working sooner and by your own account it was completely unnecessary because Obama knew that "mother nature" left to her own devices would cleanse the sea.

Obama saved BP money for not over reacting to this crisis.

You should be praising him.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 7/30/2010 8:59:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		So both cucky and sanity agree that Obama did the right thing by not engaging the skimmers sooner. He is a great President.

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RE: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf - 8/1/2010 2:39:59 PM   
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Theres nothing "magically" about it. Its being destroyed by the heat and the microbes and the fact that its a very light crude that dissipates relatively easily. Its a big ocean, too - and the amount of oil vs. the amount of sea water gives the ocean a big advantage.




Then it would be o.k. with you for us to ups any that does not dissipate to you to spread in your back yard?

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