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domiguy -> hijacking. (7/30/2010 10:47:13 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3332816/mpage_7/key_/tm.htm#3339056

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

This is an awesome story although I am very sorry that poor woman had to endure that.

Woman 2, Thugs 0

"That was what Linda Smith (a pseudonym) was thinking after two thugs broke into her Oklahoma apartment. One was holding a weapon to her throat (she initially thought it was a knife but it turned out to be a screwdriver) and the other was pacing back and forth while holding her purse and demanding her money and valuables. She screamed, and was told if she screamed again, she'd be dead.

She was doing as police recommend in robberies – comply with a robber's demands. But her Lady Smith & Wesson .38 special, which she carries by permit, was hidden in her purse – and the purse was being held by one of the attackers.

Then the situation, suddenly, got much, much worse: One of the robbers demanded that she take off her clothes. "Come on, what are you waiting for," he told her as he started to yank on her sweatpants, trying to take them off.

Smith pleaded for her safety and distracted the attackers by telling them she would get her money, which was "in my purse." The robbers inexplicably allowed her to drop to her knees and crawl across the floor to her purse, which the second attacker had dropped.

She reached inside, and the first shot was clear of the muzzle and into the torso of one of the attackers before she even pulled the weapon clear of the purse. Four more shots followed shortly and, in the end, one of the attackers was dead and the second was hospitalized facing a murder rap for having participated in a felony in which someone died."

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There was no question furthered by the op....Just a statement about a story where many of the "facts" as portrayed in this story seemed to be "slightly" contradicted by other more "reputable" news sources.'' The facts as described by the website listed are essentially correct in that a woman defended herself agianst two intruders and shot them both, killing one.

The thread jumped all over the place from the rights of gun ownership to training to how easy or what provisions are in place that one must endure in order to own a fire arm.


Then this happened....

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminRho

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We have so hijacked this thread.

Yes, you have. I won't be shooting anyone, but any further hijacking will get pulled and the 'perp' will get a gold bordered love note. [;)]
The topic is stated in the OP, please start another thread if you want to discuss the legality of guns.



There was no topic stated by the op. The conversation moved about only like conversations tend to do. The op touched upon a topic in which people possess strong views and opinions.

I was raised by Cuban hijackers. It's in our blood.

I can totally understand the need for mods to take action on personal attacks and name calling....The fuckers that engage in such tactics are reprehensible....( why this is in the stupidity section) I personally shall do better in the future.

anywhooooo, I know this has probably been done over a few times here but what is the difference between hijacking and that which transpires in the course of a normal conversation?

Normal conversations run all over the place. From what I have heard. I personally have never engaged in one of those. I hear they are rather nifty.

If gold bordered messages are going to be sent out or people possibly laid off then it might be a good time to discuss this subject further.

Just a random thought of stupidity. Feel free to hijack away.

What do you do if you think you have a mouse in your Domicile but it doesn't like peanut butter? What kind of a mouse won't eat peaniut butter? If I were a mouse, I would adore peanut butter. (I have been saying "adore" quite a bit lately. Could it be that I have fallen in love?)

Now I am trying cheese and Cheerios to lure mus musculus to it's death. It's a battle of wits, two creatures enter my Domicile only one shall leave alive.

Did you know that there are approximately 670 different types of cheese? Wow! that is a lot of fucking cheese. I like cheese. Not too crazy about mice. The one I have is a diabolical mouse genius. He has bested me so far....I believe his undoing will be the Cheerios.

Did you know that Cheerios was introduced by General Mills on May 1, 1941 as the first oat-based, ready-to-eat cold cereal?

Nice box!!!

[image]http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/cheerios-box.jpg[/image]

speaking of box you might want to check out his little number...

http://www.xvideos.com/video524737/wtf_is_that_thing_2


have fun....Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.




juliaoceania -> RE: hijacking. (7/30/2010 11:29:55 PM)

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I can totally understand the need for mods to take action on personal attacks and name calling....The fuckers that engage in such tactics are reprehensible....( why this is in the stupidity section) I personally shall do better in the future.


What do we do with such people? Make them walk the plank? Feed them to crocodiles?


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anywhooooo, I know this has probably been done over a few times here but what is the difference between hijacking and that which transpires in the course of a normal conversation?

Normal conversations run all over the place. From what I have heard. I personally have never engaged in one of those. I hear they are rather nifty.


I find the line tends to drift with the more drinks I have... that could just be me, but judging by all of you lunatics, you either have conversation ADD, or you like hijacking, or you are all drunks (maybe a combination of the three?)


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If gold bordered messages are going to be sent out or people possibly laid off then it might be a good time to discuss this subject further.


I only want to talk about this more if these gold bordered messages are something like Golden Tickets to the inner sanctum of CollarMe where the anonymous owner of CM has an army of kinky oompa loompas hanging out.


J
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ust a random thought of stupidity. Feel free to hijack away.


I'm trying, how is that working for me?



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What do you do if you think you have a mouse in your Domicile but it doesn't like peanut butter? What kind of a mouse won't eat peaniut butter?

Did you try adopting one of those "submissive kittens" that roams around CM? One of those might scare the mice away.


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If I were a mouse, I would adore peanut butter. (I have been saying "adore" quite a bit lately. Could it be that I have fallen in love?)

Do tell..... who is the lucky vict- ... I mean lady

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Now I am trying cheese and Cheerios to lure mus musculus to it's death. It's a battle of wits, two creatures enter my Domicile only one shall leave alive.

Did you know that there are approximately 670 different types of cheese? Wow! that is a lot of fucking cheese. I like cheese. Not too crazy about mice. The one I have is a diabolical mouse genius. He has bested me so far....I believe his undoing will be the Cheerios.

Did you know that Cheerios was introduced by General Mills on May 1, 1941 as the first oat-based, ready-to-eat cold cereal?

Nice box!!!


This is the part where i begin to worry if you have been getting enough rest...




CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 3:54:25 AM)

Maybe thread evolution and derailment is decided over the toss of a coin...or if some people start getting upset or reporting for derailing.  I just figure that it is like being in a room with several friends (and sometimes not-so-friends) and different conversations are spawned.  Sometimes the ones in one group that are running around noisily playing tag help lighten the tension in the room when the serious discussions get too...tense. 

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What do you do if you think you have a mouse in your Domicile but it doesn't like peanut butter? What kind of a mouse won't eat peaniut butter? If I were a mouse, I would adore peanut butter. (I have been saying "adore" quite a bit lately. Could it be that I have fallen in love?)

Now I am trying cheese and Cheerios to lure mus musculus to it's death. It's a battle of wits, two creatures enter my Domicile only one shall leave alive.

Did you know that there are approximately 670 different types of cheese? Wow! that is a lot of fucking cheese. I like cheese. Not too crazy about mice. The one I have is a diabolical mouse genius. He has bested me so far....I believe his undoing will be the Cheerios.



I have had to deal with mice several times...mice can be so stupid that they run by a trap without noticing it and get stuck, or run under one's feet and get crunched...are you sure this isn't a smarter...rat? 
 
Poison is good if no pet can get to it, but if the mouse dies behind something that cannot be moved, ugh.  Nastybad stink for months.  Glue traps...I felt sorry for them.  Stuck there like that, taking days to die <shudders>.
 
Change the location of the traps if they are left unmolested.  Get a small box of hamster seeds and stick those to the peanut butter.  We had mice that would snap them, then walk right up and eat that cheese or peanut butter.  Maybe it was really a rat...  Is it just the skittering sound that bothers you, or has it been chewing holes through your Cheerios box or something?  If it likes something, stick that to the peanutbutter.
 
Honestly, the best solution for mice has already been invented...a cat.  Can you borrow one for a few days?  Um, the next thing I mention is going to sound disgusting but I'll say it anyway.  When I was at that FEMA trailer for a year, everyone else had a problem with mice and rats...except those of us with cats.  So, I helped a few of my neighbors out.  I used the scooper to empty out the solid stuff in the cat litter, and waited until it got funky (I had three cat litters and 6 cats), and then my old cat litter was shook/poured around the outside of their trailer.  Rodents smelled cats and found an easier place. 
 
This next part will be even worse so...  Through pet catalogs, there are sprays to keep certain animals out of one's yard.  What most people won't tell you is that these are urines of certain predators.  I can't remember which, but maybe some are from lions or wolves.  The organic gardening books I have tell me how to keep out those pests, and...neighborhood cats and dogs from peeing or worse near my roses.  The books suggested urine from a human FEMALE mixed with some unscented ammonia and water and sprayed around.  That did the trick.  You see where I am leading with this, right?  Cat pee in water with some ammonia might do the same thing with mice.  It would be great if somewhere on the web, there is piss warfare against mice...in a nicely sanitized can.
 
Or...someone needs to make a mouse capture device that has a fertile female in one end, happy with bedding, food, water, and a wheel...the guy mouse comes closer though the open end of the cage and bingo, enslaved by love. [:D]
 
Mice love dry catfood too.
 
I used to raise them by the hundreds as part of a homeschool project and traded them in to pet stores in exchange for store credit.
 
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Now I am trying cheese and Cheerios to lure mus musculus to it's death. It's a battle of wits, two creatures enter my Domicile only one shall leave alive.

I think they only live for about two years, so maybe he's so smart because he is old...he might end this duel unfairly by dying of old age.  [sm=rofl.gif] 
 
If this is a female...likely she is preggies, and I am trying to remember how many babies mine had every few weeks or so.  Probably around a dozen.  I only bought two, and ended up selling thousands...just sayin. [:D]  Also, they get pregnant while they are still nursing the first batch, and I think they can fend for themselves by 2 weeks.  I wonder if anyone's pet rodent escaped.
 
Best of luck over this.  If you don't have a cat, poisoning is the easiest route...a mouse has got to eat. 
~~~~~~~~~
I saw that thread over the woman who shot her would be rapists.  I was too busy throwing a party to type any responses, and I didn't want to go to Snopes to see it disproved.  There must be some magical beliefs left undisturbed in this world.  I stayed out of it.
~~~~~~~~~
 
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(I have been saying "adore" quite a bit lately. Could it be that I have fallen in love?)

I couldn't pretend I hadn't seen that.  I hope you have...and I hope you "break a leg."  (There, it isn't jinxed.) 




soul2share -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 3:56:12 AM)

Did you know that your foot is the same length as the distance between your wrist and your elbow?

Just a suggestion...SIT DOWN before you try to see if this is indeed true......'specially YOU, Holly!




Jeffff -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 4:33:46 AM)

Anyone who can't catch mice with peanut butter is a pussy.

Is that too on topic?


catching mice with peanut butter is on my bucket list





sirsholly -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 4:40:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: soul2share

Did you know that your foot is the same length as the distance between your wrist and your elbow?
Really?

Lets see.....

:::::SPLAT:::::

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Just a suggestion...SIT DOWN before you try to see if this is indeed true......'specially YOU, Holly!
[image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/imoksmiley.gif[/image]




Jeffff -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 4:42:04 AM)

The way I see it, news of you falling is more of an update than a hijack.




sirsholly -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 4:46:41 AM)

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Now I am trying cheese and Cheerios to lure mus musculus to it's death.
one tiny drop of vegetable oil on the center of the trap should do it. It is the oil in the peanut butter and cheese that mice like.

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It's a battle of wits, two creatures enter my Domicile only one shall leave alive.
[image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/toolminis/xpeople_manmouse.gif[/image]




sirsholly -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 4:49:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The way I see it, news of you falling is more of an update than a hijack.
[image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/smartass.gif[/image]




myotherself -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 5:08:02 AM)

I can't lure my mouse with peanut butter, cheese or anything else.

Maybe if I unplugged it from the computer it may feel more inclined to find the trap.[:)]




sunshinemiss -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 5:32:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

I just figure that it is like being in a room with several friends (and sometimes not-so-friends) and different conversations are spawned.  Sometimes the ones in one group that are running around noisily playing tag help lighten the tension in the room when the serious discussions get too...tense. 


~FR~

Quoted for truth.

I've noticed a fairly heavy hand with deleting posts.  You know, you spend some time flirting, being silly but also saying something serious, but even then the post gets deleted.  I've been really frustrated by that.  Several of my fairly serious posts have been deleted because I was also somewhat silly in them.  (Or at least that's what I'm presuming is what happened.) 

So ... rather than waste my thoughts, I'm kind of staying away.  It's a waste of my time to spend half an hour crafting my thoughts into something resembling a clever / serious / passionate response.  It's like throwing away my hard work.  *Going out on a limb here*... I find it insulting.  But by the same token, I don't think the world revolves around me, and I don't think CM is going to fall apart or there will be any crying salt tears of despair because my thoughts weren't represented.  It is what it is.  Meh. 

As to the gun control thread:

In reality, conversations stray.  That's how it works.  Talking about issues around protecting oneself and the laws that deal with that seem pretty much on target in *my* mind.  But I"m not a mod.  If I want to talk about it, I'll take my conversation where I *can* talk about it.  I'll call Aynne!

By the way, what was Christine's old tag? 
Hell yes, I'm pro gun!  I'm not gonna stand around with a rolling pin and hope for the best. 
(tried to find the rolling pin lady emoticon, but evidently I'm going blind).

best,
sunshine (who can shoot a gun pretty darned well)

p.s.  Having not talked about Cheerios, mice or oily peanut butter, I fully expect this post to be deleted, and I will have wasted 15 minutes.  Oh well.  Now, I've got a book to write.  Where did I put that dang flash drive?




KMsAngel -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 6:32:05 AM)

next to the peanut butter jar.




pahunkboy -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 6:49:19 AM)

Is someone upset?

If so- I do not see why.




DesFIP -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 6:49:54 AM)

We are presently mouse free. I tried the snap traps with peanut butter, also the glue traps. Nada.
I moved up to the traps that have two sections so the mouse can't get the peanut butter and escape. They work but then you have to get the mouse out of the trap.

More importantly is that they breed like rabbits proverbially do. So we bought rodent bait at the farm store and put the bait in the attic and under the stove. We also put it into bait stations that the dog cannot get into and we put the bait stations inside cabinets so the dog can't even get to the bait station. I think we had two rounds of that and presently we are mouse free. But it will soon be fall when all good mouses look for warm homes and we'll have to do another couple of rounds.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 6:56:46 AM)

You gotta blow them meeses to pieces...then you hug them and squeeze them and call them George.  Or maybe it's the other way around.





myotherself -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 7:01:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP



More importantly is that they breed like rabbits proverbially do.


Heyyyyyy....now you're getting personal!

MODS - WHERE ARE YOU????? [:D]

edited cos today I iz a clumsy bint wot carn't spel




YourLovelyAngel -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 7:05:23 AM)

Haven't seen any mice but when visiting New York on one occasion, I saw a rat the size of a yorkie. What the hell are they feeding these monsters?!




Level -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 7:22:13 AM)

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I was raised by Cuban hijackers. It's in our blood.


LOL [:D]

Yeah, I hope the "keep on topic" stuff gets dialed back a bit... shit drifts, and I just don't mean in the toilet.

Toilets.... ya know, anyone starting a thread on bathrooms, and having it go over 200 replies, has to be a wonderful (and modest) human being.




myotherself -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 7:35:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Level
Toilets.... ya know, anyone starting a thread on bathrooms, and having it go over 200 replies, has to be a wonderful (and modest) human being.


...a wonderful person whose shiny head is a danger to low-flying aircraft on a sunny day? [8|]




LadyHibiscus -> RE: hijacking. (7/31/2010 8:13:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

In reality, conversations stray.  That's how it works.  Talking about issues around protecting oneself and the laws that deal with that seem pretty much on target in *my* mind. 

{assorted snippage by Hib}




This. I can see conversations that just turn into chat room banter, and that is maybe Less Desirable. But how were we derailing on the gun control thread? We were expanding on a topic, yes, but I don't see any OP being derailed. I am going to go along with what the mods want, but do we really need to start ANOTHER thread just to deal with a closely related topic?


My Froot Loops have been recalled. This makes me sad.




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