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LOL.. hardly!

So you accept that your statement that all illegal aliens working in the u.s. are guilty of either identity theft or tax evasion is incorrect?

All illegal aliens? Nope, i do not accept my statement as being incorrect. You figure out why.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

ah, now you made me sad. your not as smart as i believed you to be.

ah, now you made me sad. you're not as smart as you believe yourself to be.

The operative word in your question was... illegal.

The operative statement here is that I have already said many times that illegal aliens are here illegally.

Legal aliens are entitled to work here.

Some are and some are not

If one is illegal, how do they get a job? In all honesty, how does an illegal alien get a job legally?

Perhaps it is because some people hire them illegally. Which I have pointed out is a crime...a felony for hiring those who have crossed the border illegally.
You want to hang your little xenophobic bigot hat on your contention that the illegal aliens have committed a felony by identy theft or tax evasion. I have pointed out that there is at least one way in which that is not true and you (true to form) insist on trying to find a new way to demonize these people while essentially ignoring those who commit federal felonies by hiring them.
The simple fact is that if there were no jobs these people would leave. Instead of encouraging that avenue of effort you and those like you persist in demanding mindless shit like mining the border,shooting them on sight,putting troops on the border and oh yes holding up the bogie man of terrorist crossing the border with 4 ton suitcase bombs or ....oh yes the drug cartels have opened a hole in our southern border so wide one could drag the 7th fleet through it without anyone noticing it.
Yours really is a shallow and tedious position and is about as transparant as a freight train in the living room.

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Perhaps it is because some people hire them illegally. Which I have pointed out is a crime...a felony for hiring those who have crossed the border illegally.

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You want to hang your little xenophobic bigot hat on your contention that the illegal aliens have committed a felony by identy theft or tax evasion. I have pointed out that there is at least one way in which that is not true and you (true to form) insist on trying to find a new way to demonize these people while essentially ignoring those who commit federal felonies by hiring them.

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The simple fact is that if there were no jobs these people would leave. Instead of encouraging that avenue of effort you and those like you persist in demanding mindless shit like mining the border,shooting them on sight,putting troops on the border and oh yes holding up the bogie man of terrorist crossing the border with 4 ton suitcase bombs or ....oh yes the drug cartels have opened a hole in our southern border so wide one could drag the 7th fleet through it without anyone noticing it.

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Yours really is a shallow and tedious position and is about as transparant as a freight train in the living room.

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Please note the section related to the employee signature.

"I am aware that federal law provides for imprisonment and/or fines for false statements or use of false documents in connection with the completion of this form".

Beneath that, an employee signature is required.

Pretty self explanatory there.

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Perhaps it is because some people hire them illegally. Which I have pointed out is a crime...a felony for hiring those who have crossed the border illegally.

And they are still hired illegally, knowingly breaking the law. At that point, their crimes change from a misdemeanor to a federal crime.

First: entering the country illegally is a federal crime a misdemeanor.
Second: what crime do illegal aliens commit when an employer illegally employes them?

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You want to hang your little xenophobic bigot hat on your contention that the illegal aliens have committed a felony by identy theft or tax evasion. I have pointed out that there is at least one way in which that is not true and you (true to form) insist on trying to find a new way to demonize these people while essentially ignoring those who commit federal felonies by hiring them.

No one is ignoring that fact. I have said that companies need to be held responsible for hiring them. I just dont buy into the belief that these people are innocent of crimes either. Two prong approach. Make it undesirable from both ends.

The employer sanctions have huge benifits for small input of legal resources. The employee sanctions have miniscule benifits for large input of legal resources. So we have prima facia evidence of your xenophobic bigotry.
If you don't like being called on your bigotry then perhaps you might try not being one.

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The simple fact is that if there were no jobs these people would leave. Instead of encouraging that avenue of effort you and those like you persist in demanding mindless shit like mining the border,shooting them on sight,putting troops on the border and oh yes holding up the bogie man of terrorist crossing the border with 4 ton suitcase bombs or ....oh yes the drug cartels have opened a hole in our southern border so wide one could drag the 7th fleet through it without anyone noticing it.

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Yours really is a shallow and tedious position and is about as transparant as a freight train in the living room.

You want to try and paint me with that brush because its proves some twisted point you have. Have at it.


I have and will continue to do so.


You are the one insisting that these people are here to better themselves.

Never once have I said that. When you say things that you know to be untrue you mark yourself as a liar.


And my contention is that any illegal who is working here is breaking a federal law.

Any illegal in this country is breaking a federal law...a misdemeanor...but then you knew that.

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The Native Americans didmore than their fair of raping and pillaging

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The Native Americans didmore than their fair of raping and pillaging

They/we were also good at dying young; such deaths specifically to include by starvation.
They/we were stone age savages, hunter-gatherers as desperate for food as any wild animal, and almost as much at the mercy of the weather as the beasts. That improved a little after the Spanish brought horses to North America, but this American idea that the lives of American Indians were anything but brutish and short is from a fairytale.

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If the supply matched the demand, there would be no illegals.

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If the supply matched the demand, there would be no illegals.

Were that the case, how many permanent visas a year do you think we'd issue??? 5 million? Ten? Fifty?

Half the world wants to come here, AR.

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The Native Americans didmore than their fair of raping and pillaging

They/we were also good at dying young; such deaths specifically to include by starvation.
They/we were stone age savages, hunter-gatherers as desperate for food as any wild animal, and almost as much at the mercy of the weather as the beasts. That improved a little after the Spanish brought horses to North America, but this American idea that the lives of American Indians were anything but brutish and short is from a fairytale.

Obviously you have never been in the same zip code with a history book.

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The law in Arizona requires law-enforcement officers to stop anyone whom they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

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The law in Arizona requires law-enforcement officers to stop anyone whom they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

Not even. You must rely on lamestream media.
What the law required is that police officers who firstcame into contact with someone they had reason to suspect was an illegal alien as a routine, lawful part of their job- traffic stop, arrest, whatever- then question the suspected person about their immigration status. The contact had to come first.

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Truckin, tha's what most states do now anyway.

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The Native Americans didmore than their fair of raping and pillaging

They/we were also good at dying young; such deaths specifically to include by starvation.
They/we were stone age savages, hunter-gatherers as desperate for food as any wild animal, and almost as much at the mercy of the weather as the beasts. That improved a little after the Spanish brought horses to North America, but this American idea that the lives of American Indians were anything but brutish and short is from a fairytale.

Obviously you have never been in the same zip code with a history book.

Just speaking truth to PC bullshit.

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If you happen to have any of that "truth" you are talking about perhaps you might give us a cite.

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If you happen to have any of that "truth" you are talking about perhaps you might give us a cite.

I'm tired of doing your research. You want to look it up, do so. You want to support your opinions, do so. You don't, don't.

You want to try to disprove my opinions with "scholarly research", yeah, do that, too.