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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:09:57 AM   
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as stated by others......too many generalizations to even begin to answer.......

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:11:39 AM   
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Generalizations don't work. Take it to who You believe is doing what You say They're doing. Why subject everyone to things that have nothing to do with everyone? Personally, whinning is not at all becoming to a Domme.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:14:36 AM   
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Especially if She isn't dressed for it. <smiles>

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:19:49 AM   
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oh... I must be slow to catch on... I thought this was a joke... Guess that is why the punch line kinda sucked... I was looking for something with a little more zip to it..... awww well... not everyone is gifted with humor, but everyone is skilled at the art of ranting and venting from time to time.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:31:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

Is it that they are so powerless in real life that they transfer that into a "power grab" online, here, or in their attempts at S/M relationships


You do seem frustrated. 
My answer would be that the site is called "collarme".  Not beatme, not pissonme, not tiemeup, not tramplemeinheels, not useyourstrapon, not forcedbi, not lickmyboots, not worshipmypussy, and on and on and on.
I am not here for an S/M trelationship.  I am here for a M/s relationship.  The SM would be a part of that, but the power exchange is the most important thing to Me.  And it is not because I am needy or clingy or insecure.  If that was so, I could have had more than My fair share of boys since I would have traded My  own needs and compromised to be their little play toy and eye candy.   
Don't mean to sound flippant, but I have already left the A & B sites, since they were more about quick gratification.  I can get that anywhere, anytime I need it.  I don't need a website to find it.  This site has been My best bet for reasonably intelligent discussion, and an opportunity widen a search.  I don't rely on it, but it is a good way to put Myself out there with all My imperfections. Take Me or leave Me. 
I want what I want.  I won't settle for less, and I will answer threads with the complaints in order to try to constructively educate.  Anyone can take that or leave that, also.
Just one view, but then I like FOX News. *shrug*

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:35:20 AM   
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i thought the joke was funny... i was trained that the sub has all the power and that is where the Dom gets the power from...

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:39:39 AM   
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I agree...just in general...with everyone....including OP...*shrugs*


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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:42:54 AM   
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Awesomely stated GoddessDustyGold.

Is it me or does it seem to be rant at or about the Domme week here on collarme?

I am collared to a Domme (and her husband-co-Dom) who is here on collarme, i have made friends with others, they are all wonderful individuals. Granted there are some who are over the top but that includes all the groups, sub, slave, switch, top, bottom, Dom, Domme, high end subs, etc.


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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:55:21 AM   
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quote:

Is it me or does it seem to be rant at or about the Domme week here on collarme?


My first impression also, twicehappy.  *Wink*
By the way, I wanted to tell you that I am so glad that you are, indeed, "twice happy".
My best to Jewel and Scooter as well as you!

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 11:59:11 AM   
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Interesting. Those with thoughts and the ability to think things through posted lengthy replies (whether they agree or not). Those with nothing intelligent to say but simply a desire to "bump" up there total post numbers blathered and made lameass attempts at insults. Kind of adds more evidence to my whole point. My favorite is "as stated by others......too many generalizations to even begin to answer.." yet this person still took the time to answer, lmfao.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 12:14:26 PM   
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oh... I must be slow to catch on... I thought this was a joke... Guess that is why the punch line kinda sucked... I was looking for something with a little more zip to it..... awww well... not everyone is gifted with humor, but everyone is skilled at the art of ranting and venting from time to time.


No; it's not a joke.  It's an advertisement.  I'm absolutely convinced that when any prodomme (can we all say "jessyka"?) posts something that is obviously designed to generate irate responses and controversy and is so transparent, it's just another way to get free advertising.  12 pages of posts later, and how many people who otherwise wouldn't have known she exists will have seen her name?... Hmmmmmmm.... (edited to add) HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO STOP IT AT 2 PAGES AND NEVER GIVE ANOTHER PRODOMME FREE ADVERTISING AGAIN.  Like that will ever happen.  Keep "lmfao"ing Mswhatever. 

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 12:52:00 PM   
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quote:

but then I like FOX News


Say it isn't so.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 1:09:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

quote:

but then I like FOX News


Say it isn't so.


Good think you already have a Mistress now, isn't it?  You might've gotten stuck with Me!  *Wink*

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 1:11:21 PM   
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Let me show you why people are giving you more from your viewpoint negative responses.

I think a good indicator would be the number of negatives in the OP. Let's count.

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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb
Why is it that so many display such childish levels of needy, clingy, me-me-me, attitudes?

childish, needy, clingy, me-me-me. that would be 3 in one sentence. And notice the qualifier that so many, implying most dom/mes possess these qualities. Why would people respond negatively?
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Why the false bravado? Why the "all talk and no cock" (metaphor,,,or not) ego, from both sexes?

false bravado, all talk and no cock, ego. 3 more. Total of 6 negatives.
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Is it something in the water? Is it something in their upbringing, their childhood, something that happened in the womb? Is it that they are so powerless in real life that they transfer that into a "power grab" online, here, or in their attempts at S/M relationships in everyday life?

Next line is it something in the water, implies it is a widespread problem as in every dom/mes are like this. Something in the womb, more sarcasm. Next line implying dom/mes are powerless So, we'll just count that as one negative, total of 7
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Whats the reason, the purpose and the logic behind the hostility, the egos and attitudes that permeate far to much of the S/M and related kink community? A need for a hug, an enema (some people a little backed up?) a spanking?

I really don't know what you are talking about,  you  open  with  a  attack  then  now  complain  of  being  attacked.  Maybe an example? Maybe you need a enema, hug or spanking? Imply again that most are hostile, with ego, attitudes and need a hug, enema, spanking.  Let's just count that as 3 more. So 10 negatives.

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Everyone is looking for the same thing but from their own individual perspectives and angles. Everyone wants to be loved, to be desired, to be understood, to feel validated and significant from both sides of the hairbrush, cane or whip. Tops and bottoms, Doms/Dommes and subs, spankers and spankees, go together like a *soup and sandwich* (props to Eve). Without one the other is lost.


A rational non-negative statement, good job!! Still at 10 total negatives.
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Theres an old joke about what happens in a room full of Doms/Dommes? Nothing! Without subs or switches its just a room full of Dommes/Doms that can't take the pain and whose egos can't handle being submissive. A room full of subs or switches can at least "roleplay" and get each other off in more ways than one. Tops can't.

Here you imply Doms/Tops are are Nothing but Subs or switches will convert to Doms/Tops if they wanted to. So 1 negative, maybe two if you consider some submissives might be offended by a notion that they'd just turn tops because they were horny.
So 11 negatives.

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So I would sincerely and earnestly like to know, what gives? CollarMe is a huge site and has a reputation for being well packed with the biggest bunch of over inflated blowhards the web has ever seen (on par with FOX News).

Now compare collarMe users to over inflated blowhards similiar to your opinion of Fox News viewers. LOL. Well give you 1 negative for that whole statement. 12 negatives.

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Surely there are at least a few *over* educated and highly opinionated souls here that could explain to me how alienation of subs and switches somehow equates to a good time for Dommes/Doms in play, in relationships, in a collegial atmosphere, for the advancement of our cause, the betterment of society as a whole, which includes us and our other aberrative counterparts.


More obvious sarcasm *over* educated implying it's not the case. 13 negatives.
Next line is the first time you mentioned the point of your post the alienation of subs and switches.

You seem angry, and don't present any reason for your anger other than generalized insults targeted at the very community you are whining to. Maybe that's why aren't receiving many non-aggressive replies, because your message is aggressive.

I'd say today you are the only person I've seen post that displayed all the qualities you've said dom/mes posses.

Good job, but it does prove that some dom/mes are like you say.

Thanks.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 1:13:21 PM   
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I supposed I might feel insulted if I understood what the hell you were talking about.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 2:02:58 PM   
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I supposed I might feel insulted if I understood what the hell you were talking about.
I think you might be too intelligent for the wind she's trying to blow up submissives' asses, pretending to be protecting them from us evil selfish uptight dominant bastards at collarme.   So now all the subs that have difficulty connecting, will click on her profile and see that she is ready to play with them for pay of ?maybe free in front of her hubby.   

The reason I like collarme much more than the A&B site (as the Goddess above stated) is the name itself, indicating at least in part that the goal is a relationship, not feed my specific kink and send me on my way already!   M 

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 2:07:03 PM   
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<smiles> thank you...
Sometimes it is difficult to perceive the message and not focus on the negatives .. to be able to listen. It's so easy to cut something down without adding something to build it up, eh? How to move forward from this point ..

Tough though .. cause I too am somewhat of an old-timer. The issue has been around for as long as I can remember, and indeed was the spark behind my forming a submissive's group (it ran 5 years, and folded last year after I stepped down). What prompted its formation was that I noticed that online, dominants and submissives .. once identified .. were *expected* to act a certain way. And there were several rather mean remarks made by some tops to certain submissives .. so a saafe haven was formed.

Yet .. there will always be those that alienate. I think what is important in coping with these people is not so much alienating them as well (though that is an option should they not shape up heheheh), but in one's attitude towards them. Perhaps I'm a dreamer =) but I always try to see some good in people and/or ideas .. and focus on that .. preferably <grins> the latter. Also to keep in mind that this medium is unidimensional .. that is, solely words, with no tone or body language. [The latter two are only perceived by the receiver.] ..... I personally felt *frustration* resulting from the OP, not anger, but hey that's just my feelings resulting from my own personal experiences.

And sadly, there have been many. I would not term it an alienation, but rather it has made me hypercautious and maybe even overanalytical in my interactions .. so I may appear cold. Oh well .. the right mindset, I might be warmed up.



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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 2:11:23 PM   
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No; it's not a joke.  It's an advertisement.  I'm absolutely convinced that when any prodomme (can we all say "jessyka"?) posts something that is obviously designed to generate irate responses and controversy and is so transparent, it's just another way to get free advertising.  12 pages of posts later, and how many people who otherwise wouldn't have known she exists will have seen her name?... Hmmmmmmm.... (edited to add) HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO STOP IT AT 2 PAGES AND NEVER GIVE ANOTHER PRODOMME FREE ADVERTISING AGAIN.  Like that will ever happen.  Keep "lmfao"ing Mswhatever. 
[/quote]

Good job on the yelling and nice follow through with the font. However, one small teenie little point. I am NOT a prodomme, never have been, never will be. So I guess that kind of blows your little paranoid delusions out of the water.

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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 2:22:10 PM   
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  If you think I am posting to become popular, gain friends or win a prize then you are sadly mistaken. The whole point may have eluded you but if the truth is negative it may still be the truth. You may consider that to be a bad thing and think I give a rats ass if other people have a negative reaction to it. But that doesnt change the facts does it? My second point was that the majority of the people with negative replies have NOTHING to say. Why should I care about them?
It seems that maybe some people need to reread things before spouting off. The implication that I was talking about ALL Dommes/Doms shows how ignorant some people are. I believe the term I used was "So Many" which does not imply all.The is a grave difference. You also seem to have discounted all the replies that totally or some what agree with some or all of my statements. Why? Are you just being negative, lol?
quote:

ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

Let me show you why people are giving you more from your viewpoint negative responses.

I think a good indicator would be the number of negatives in the OP. Let's count.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb
Why is it that so many display such childish levels of needy, clingy, me-me-me, attitudes?

childish, needy, clingy, me-me-me. that would be 3 in one sentence. And notice the qualifier that so many, implying most dom/mes possess these qualities. Why would people respond negatively?
quote:


Why the false bravado? Why the "all talk and no cock" (metaphor,,,or not) ego, from both sexes?

false bravado, all talk and no cock, ego. 3 more. Total of 6 negatives.
quote:


Is it something in the water? Is it something in their upbringing, their childhood, something that happened in the womb? Is it that they are so powerless in real life that they transfer that into a "power grab" online, here, or in their attempts at S/M relationships in everyday life?

Next line is it something in the water, implies it is a widespread problem as in every dom/mes are like this. Something in the womb, more sarcasm. Next line implying dom/mes are powerless So, we'll just count that as one negative, total of 7
quote:


Whats the reason, the purpose and the logic behind the hostility, the egos and attitudes that permeate far to much of the S/M and related kink community? A need for a hug, an enema (some people a little backed up?) a spanking?

I really don't know what you are talking about,  you  open  with  a  attack  then  now  complain  of  being  attacked.  Maybe an example? Maybe you need a enema, hug or spanking? Imply again that most are hostile, with ego, attitudes and need a hug, enema, spanking.  Let's just count that as 3 more. So 10 negatives.

quote:


Everyone is looking for the same thing but from their own individual perspectives and angles. Everyone wants to be loved, to be desired, to be understood, to feel validated and significant from both sides of the hairbrush, cane or whip. Tops and bottoms, Doms/Dommes and subs, spankers and spankees, go together like a *soup and sandwich* (props to Eve). Without one the other is lost.


A rational non-negative statement, good job!! Still at 10 total negatives.
quote:


Theres an old joke about what happens in a room full of Doms/Dommes? Nothing! Without subs or switches its just a room full of Dommes/Doms that can't take the pain and whose egos can't handle being submissive. A room full of subs or switches can at least "roleplay" and get each other off in more ways than one. Tops can't.

Here you imply Doms/Tops are are Nothing but Subs or switches will convert to Doms/Tops if they wanted to. So 1 negative, maybe two if you consider some submissives might be offended by a notion that they'd just turn tops because they were horny.
So 11 negatives.

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So I would sincerely and earnestly like to know, what gives? CollarMe is a huge site and has a reputation for being well packed with the biggest bunch of over inflated blowhards the web has ever seen (on par with FOX News).

Now compare collarMe users to over inflated blowhards similiar to your opinion of Fox News viewers. LOL. Well give you 1 negative for that whole statement. 12 negatives.

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Surely there are at least a few *over* educated and highly opinionated souls here that could explain to me how alienation of subs and switches somehow equates to a good time for Dommes/Doms in play, in relationships, in a collegial atmosphere, for the advancement of our cause, the betterment of society as a whole, which includes us and our other aberrative counterparts.


More obvious sarcasm *over* educated implying it's not the case. 13 negatives.
Next line is the first time you mentioned the point of your post the alienation of subs and switches.

You seem angry, and don't present any reason for your anger other than generalized insults targeted at the very community you are whining to. Maybe that's why aren't receiving many non-aggressive replies, because your message is aggressive.

I'd say today you are the only person I've seen post that displayed all the qualities you've said dom/mes posses.

Good job, but it does prove that some dom/mes are like you say.

Thanks.



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RE: Why So Many Dommes/Doms Self Esteem Issues (Repost) - 4/19/2006 2:28:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I think you might be too intelligent for the wind she's trying to blow up submissives' asses, pretending to be protecting them from us evil selfish uptight dominant bastards at collarme.   So now all the subs that have difficulty connecting, will click on her profile and see that she is ready to play with them for pay of ?maybe free in front of her hubby.   
 

So lets see, a substantial amount of the threads here are bitter old Doms/Dommes making caustic comments about subs that PM them or the way they are approached. Naturally according to the likes of you its ALL the subs fault. Yet some are not able to add one and one and see that half the problem why they are alone is themselves and their attitudes. Daily a new forum member and/or sub will arrive here and get slammed for their first post by multiple people (usually the same little bunch) and most others don't see a problem with this, nor the cause.
I will reiterate for those that are exceptionally slow. I am NOT a prodomme so get a clue.

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