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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 8:52:50 PM   
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If You're watching t.v. sometime and You see a black swan on the news, You'll know. And You knew me here, on collarme.

Seriously, i don't think i have Aspergers. i just think i'm a freak.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 8:59:16 PM   
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Damaged? Nope. Tougher life than some, not as tough as most women in the world. Freak? Absolutely not.

And for the aspie list: the retrospective diagnosis of anything psych-y is the least exact science: there be dragons!
Besides, being 'reserved' as Charles Schulz and Jefferson are described does not an aspie make, and Palin and Henson's non-verbal communication skills are documented and legendary.

As for feeling damaged and not fitting in: seeing a PhD or MD psych can help: good luck.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:01:10 PM   
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I hope to see you on the news. I hope it's because you have done something awful.

I would tell my friends...."You know that crazy bitch that ate those puppies and then gutted her boss?...I saw her tits."

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:14:35 PM   
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Anywhooo, we all might be a tad bit "off." But everyday I wake up and thank God I am not as whacked out as that freak, Marie.


Hey it's not my fault. I think it was something in the roller dogs.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:22:14 PM   
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Likewise, absolutely no insult implied in raising the possibility of Asperger's, I know some lovely people who also happen to be Aspies. It just seemed that the OP was looking for a reason behind her sense of not fitting the norm, and that might be it. And like all groups of people, there will be great ones, ok ones and not good ones! Many Aspies will argue that they represent the next stage of human evolution in that their qualities allow them to be even more productive in today's technology-based society!

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:23:58 PM   
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My life made me what I am, I can't imagine bweing otherwise.

I did love roller dogs when I was a kid though, so who knows.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:35:14 PM   
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quote:

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People Who Have, Or Are Believed to Have Had, Aspergers:

Bill Gates
Michael Palin
Alfred Hitchcock
Sir Isaac Newton
Jane Austen
Albert Einstein
Hans Christian Andersen
Charles Darwin
Jim Henson
Charles Schulz
Thomas Jefferson
Michelangelo
Wolfgang Mozart
Dan Aykroyd
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Thomas Edison
Woody Allen
Mark Twain

If i have it, i am at least in good company

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:37:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gungadin09

If You're watching t.v. sometime and You see a black swan on the news, You'll know. And You knew me here, on collarme.

Seriously, i don't think i have Aspergers. i just think i'm a freak.

pam


Define freak!

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 9:45:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaamJay
Many Aspies will argue that they represent the next stage of human evolution in that their qualities allow them to be even more productive in today's technology-based society!
Maam Jay aka violet[A]


Oh, absolutely. The glass is half full. Half. Full.

No offense was taken to your comment. i probably should see a psychologist, i just don't have the money right now. So, the forums. Writing a thread is just so much cheaper, for getting stuff off my chest.

Seriously, though, as much as i love talking about myself, and i do, this thread was not meant to be all about me. i'm pretty sure there are other people who feel the way i do. And probably people in the vanilla world think we're all a bunch of damaged goods. i'm okay with being a freak, for now. Anyone else want to share?

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 10:00:09 PM   
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Well, I'll chime in that I've felt mentally or emotionally damaged for a long time, tho' it's not something I typically bring up in 'polite social conversation' for reasons that should be obvious after perusing this thread . . . . Namely the social expectation of stoicism. Suck it up. Deal. Get over it & move on. All that jazz . . . . . . .

& I've recently become persuaded that I probably have Asperger's. Especially after I read about how it presents differently in the feminine end of the gender spectra. I posted some info about that in the Health forum, for anyone who's interested . . . . .

I tend to suspect that being damaged does not correlate to being kinky. But I come at it from the perspective that most everyone is 'crazy' or 'damaged' in some way or another & so those are rather unremarkable qualities to bring to the table . . . .. ..

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/6/2010 11:03:59 PM   
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“Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things which are involved in haunting and harassing difficulties and obscurities now.”
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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 2:21:55 AM   
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gungadin - for what its worth i think youre OK  -

a while ago now a guy said 'Youre weird!' - and i was really upset.  i didnt consider myself wierd at all.  but when i look at myself and the life i live i realise that i probably walk a little on the wierd side and im OK with that.  soundsl like youve come to terms with youreself and who wants to be conventional anyway.

i also realised a while ago that i dont need peoples approval to be me.  people can take me, leave me, ignore me thats their choice but im never going to change who i am because i like who i am.

something in my past has 'damaged' me in the sense that i cant forgive someone.  its something ive been talking about with a friend because its recently come back into my head and i realsie to some extent or another im still affected by what this person did, even after ten years.  i need to let it go.  im sure it has coloured my perspective on a few things and 'damaged' aspects of how i relate to relationships now but i strongly believe that if youre aware of why youre a certain way and its affecting things in a negative way, you can recognise the triggers when they happen and conciously send it away.

as for BDSM and Ds - im sure im the way i am because my father was very Dominant and my mother was a narcisist but i dont consider that makes me damaged, its just all part of the tapestry of me becoming me.  the relationships ive had in my life have all been part of me trying to access the child in me who wasnt loved back then.  and finally ive found Him and i know i wouldnt have found Him if i hadnt found 'this'.  interestingly (for me anyway) both my brothers are very dominant, so the same upbringing brought about a different orientation.  im guessing i could have gone Domme but i didnt.  so maybe the marker for submission was there already and external forces callibrated the end result.  who knows.

so, no, i dont consider myself damaged but i am a little unconventional compared to most of the people around me.  thats made my life different to theirs and for the most part they take me as me and enjoy my company and my unconventional approach to life generally.  if they dont enjoy my company then thats fine too.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 4:06:48 AM   
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Growing up I was the ugly duckling of the class. I also consistently got the top scores. I decided early on that if people wouldn't look beyond the exterior, it was their loss. I also discovered I don't need other people or their approval to make me happy, This made my life much easier. I had no desire to fit in and didn't try.
I still don't fit into groups. Truth be told, I don't try. If I was going to a Grateful Dead concert where everyone was wearing tie-dye, I'd wear a plain black tee shirt. If I was going to a biker event where everyone is wearing black tee shirts, I'll wear something else. I never fit in with the hippies, too redneck. I never fit in with the bikers, too liberal, and I hated "events" with crowds of bikers or riding in formation in groups. I'm a vegan now, but I'm not against eating animals, just not for me. I don't quite fit in the BDSM scene either. I am simply a unique individual and labels are for cans.
It's not that I think I'm better than everyone else. But throughout my life, if there is a dirty,difficult, hard to figure out problem, it ends up with me. I just changed jobs two and a half months ago. I fix cars, new shop. It took about six weeks for management to figure it out, and now if there is a problem, an unhappy customer, an emergency, a comeback; it goes on my lift. I don't think i'm better, everyone else thinks I'm better.
Here's another Mark Twain quote for you," Always obey your superiors, assuming you have any."
Be proud of your differentness. Wnen I look at society as a whole, I'm kind of glad to be on the outsude.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 4:18:28 AM   
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Here is a great piece of writing from long ago, defining "freak"




"fFrom: [email protected] (Steve Silberman)
Subject: Freak vs. Hippie, for Dario
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:26:00 -0800

"Freak vs. Hippie"
for Dario Wolfish, a goddamned freak

The original hippies were freaks who hated the word "hippie," so freaky
were they. Hippies smoke "the kind" but freaks smoked "grass." You can
fool a hippie some of the time, but you can't fool a freak nohow.
"Skeleton Key: A Dictionary for Deadheads," which makes this point about
hippies and freaks under the term "Dead Freaks Unite," was written by a
guy who grew up wanting to be a hippie, but ended up a freak, because he
was just too freaky - doing freaky things in bed with brother freaks - to
be a hippie. (Anyone who speaks of themselves in the third person is
probably Bob Dole, who is a fucking freak, and no hippie.) Hippies are
beautiful blond goyim with fancy expensive backpacks who still look all
yummy under the grime, but freaks are grimy in their souls - all freaks
are Jewish. Hippies live on "garden burgers" and other pseudo-healthy
jive, but freaks went to Gem Spa in the acid dawn after the Fillmore East
shows for an egg cream and a fucking cigarette. Thus most hippies are
thin, but some freaks are fat, showing more crack than Harlem when they
bend over to pick up a greasy roach from the cat-littered floor because
that's all the stash they have left. Hippies have tantric sex, but freaks
eat pussy, suck cock, and fuck every chance they get. ("My thing," said
David Crosby once, who was a freak who mistakenly got famous as a hippie,
"was diving into huge piles of bodies.") Hippies live for good vibes -
but a freak will settle for a vibrator. The Dead taping scene was started
by freaks, but Phishheads are strictly hippies, bless 'em. (Trey is a
hippie with freak pretentions, Mike is a fucking freak in hippie drag,
Fishman is a goddamn freak, and Page is a good keyboard player. I won't
do the Dead that way, but Pigpen was no hippie.) Most good things are
started by freaks - but most hippies know a good thing when they see it,
and then love it to death. If you had the choice to be trapped on a
desert island with a hippie or a freak, freaks have better survival
skills, but also unsightly habits that will eventually have you swimming
away and betting against the sharks - a losing game. Abbie Hoffman was a
freak, Jerry Rubin a wannabe. The Fugs were a freak band. Jimi Hendrix
was a fucking freak who did hippie better than anybody because he had the
biggest dick - which only a freak would care about. Jim Morrison was a
goddamn hippie who took freak drugs. The original punk bands - like
Richard Hell & the Voidoids and Patti Smith - were freaks in disguise.
Hippies wear the disguise of having no disguise. Allen Ginsberg: freak,
freak, freak. Robert Hunter? Poet. Hippies fear coming down, but freaks
couldn't sink any furthur. Freaks live the blues, but hippies would
rather see Blues Traveller. Anything pretty is hippie, but Nico's weird
Nordic beauty made her a freak. The hippies want to claim the Dead as
their acid house band, but Chocolate George knew better. The
Haight-Ashbury is Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum of Hippie - while the freaks
puke in the park. New York City is the capital city of Freakdom, while
the hippie capital goes where the wind goes. Emmett Grogan's "Ringolevio"
is a great freak book about hippies. AOL? Hippies - they wish. There
are a lot of hippies on the WELL, and some freaks. Usenet has a lot of
wannabe freaks, and a couple of real ones, who don't have to ask. Hippies
love mirrors, freaks avoid them. Charles Mingus, Frank Zappa, Thelonious
Monk, Diane DiPrima, Neal Cassady and his pal Jack, Mezz Mezzrow, Lord
Buckley, Lenny Bruce, Shakespeare, Seth Morgan, Roky Erickson, Grace
Slick, Walt Whitman, Abe Lincoln, Bob Dylan, the serpent of Paradise - all
freak saints, though no freak in his wrong mind would want to be a saint.
They leave that to the hippies.

Love,
Steve Silberman
*****************************************************
SKELETON KEY: A DICTIONARY FOR DEADHEADS
by David Shenk and Steve Silberman
* 400 pages of history, interviews, and magic *
To order signed copies, call (800) 321-9578
******************************************************reak"

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 4:22:34 AM   
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quote:

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But I come at it from the perspective that most everyone is 'crazy' or 'damaged' in some way or another & so those are rather unremarkable qualities to bring to the table . . . .. ..


damage not, but every so often the full extent of how crazy i am hits me and for a brief time anybody looking at me might see the panick and insanity in my eyes...
so far i have always managed to quickly pull myself together and pretend i am normal... usually recovering with the words "i don't know what came over me, carry on"

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 4:30:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ranja

quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonKia

But I come at it from the perspective that most everyone is 'crazy' or 'damaged' in some way or another & so those are rather unremarkable qualities to bring to the table . . . .. ..


damage not, but every so often the full extent of how crazy i am hits me and for a brief time anybody looking at me might see the panick and insanity in my eyes...
so far i have always managed to quickly pull myself together and pretend i am normal... usually recovering with the words "i don't know what came over me, carry on"


^^^ This..but I have also know the divine release of giving this madness. Release without the need to excuse it..There comes a tipping point where it rides you but you still have the ability to do the weigh up..either rein yourself back from the abyss because it's not the time nor the place or joyfully fling yourself from the edge.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 5:20:32 AM   
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I dont see myself as extraordinarily 'damaged', although by other folks standards I might be. Just as by MY standards, others are.  I see myself as having baggage that should be checked (or trashed).

BUT,, I am almost 50 yrs old. 

I dont think that MOST people can reach my age without there being SOME damage.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 5:28:00 AM   
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Everyone carries things that they perceive make them different (or special) from other people. I think this is rarely the case. Everyone has stuff. Physical, mental, emotional, yes it may be differing stuff, but it is stuff, and everyone has some of it.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 7:39:10 AM   
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Does anyone else feel that being somehow "damaged" is an asset in BDSM?
Damaged? Just on a temporary basis. Think of the damage as an open wound. What heals the wound is the positive learning experience that you now have, and the betterment of yourself as a person.
I am not damaged...i am healed. Yes, the wounds have left scars, but i wear them with pride because they are a sign of courage and a sign that my life experiences have made me stronger.

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RE: Do you consider yourself "damaged"? - 8/7/2010 7:49:52 AM   
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As Greedy said, you really cannot expect to have lived a good amount of time on earth without getting damaged metaphorically in some way.

If not, you either have not lived life fully, engaged in any relationships or you are very, very lucky.

Every day is a battle for some people, every day we face conflicts and shit happens. One day you are doing very well and the next, you get some news that rocks that world of yours. People lose loved ones, relationships end, you get sick, you have financial difficulties, you feel you lost your way.

We are all damaged a bit, it is the ones who carry on and take what happened to them and learn from it, or if there is no lesson to be learned (i.e. a health issue beyond one's control or job loss in this economy) then it is the way you move on from things that determine if you remain severely damaged, or just have a chink in the armor that we all have around ourselves.

For me, whenever someone says, wow, sexyred, you are a very strong woman, I say, what other choice do I have? If I am not strong for myself, who would be?

Your friends and family can only be there some of the time. The time to be strong the most is when you are alone, when you can manage the demons that threaten to consume you. That is the time to try and NOT be damaged in a negative way.

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