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Icarys -> When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 3:44:37 PM)
This will be short and sweet..Much like myself. I'm looking for your views and experiences with or as "intelligent slaves". What are some of the pitfalls you've come across when facing life as a slave. I enjoy being with and owning smart women for various reasons. They can be good conversationalists, easier at times to reason with and tend to be able to see the roads ahead that we'll both be facing. They usually have skills I can make use of and have in the past stood next to me in business with great success. They also tend to get me when others can't..At least this is true for the ones I've been with. There are many more upsides than I'm going to list because what I want to discuss is the potential downsides. Intelligence at times can be a hindrance..How is that possible right..How could anyone even think that...It's simple...sometimes a person can over think a thing..sometimes a person can second guess and or have trouble letting go of control because of this. In an M/s relationship that can mean trouble. One of my personal quotes "Use your intelligence for the good of the relationship. Use it and find a way to submit instead of using it to justify a way out of it"

Lockit -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 3:46:31 PM)
Is it intelligent to project, over think or manipulate? These are very different things.

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 3:55:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Is it intelligent to project, over think or manipulate? These are very different things. You don't know the relationship of which I speak so don't presume to be able to judge them. It's not about them to begin with.. For the record..In their case it was a part of them.

Lockit -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:01:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Is it intelligent to project, over think or manipulate? These are very different things. You don't know the relationship of which I speak so don't presumes to be able to judge them. It's not about them to begin with.. For the record..In their case it was a part of them. My, my, how you did jump! I was not judging your relationships or anything of the like. I was asking basically if these things are intelligent and pointing out they were very different things. Your conclusion would be what matters, not my own. I have my own thoughts on it, but wanted your own before I went anywhere else with it. Calm down.

porcelaine -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:03:22 PM)
Intelligence can be a liability when the other party views it as a threat rather than an asset the dominant can expand and utilize positively. Seeing the knowledge and the experience in their proper context is key. ~porcelaine

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:05:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Is it intelligent to project, over think or manipulate? These are very different things. You don't know the relationship of which I speak so don't presumes to be able to judge them. It's not about them to begin with.. For the record..In their case it was a part of them. My, my, how you did jump! I was not judging your relationships or anything of the like. I was asking basically if these things are intelligent and pointing out they were very different things. Your conclusion would be what matters, not my own. I have my own thoughts on it, but wanted your own before I went anywhere else with it. Calm down. What makes you think I'm not calm? Is it screaming you heard through the internet?[:D]

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:07:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine Intelligence can be a liability when the other party views it as a threat rather than an asset the dominant can expand and utilize positively. Seeing the knowledge and the experience in their proper context is key. ~porcelaine Could it also not be a liability as a slave sees it as well? Does it always have to be a threat thing placed on a dominants side? I'll tell you all what sparked the idea for the post after everything is said and done.

Lockit -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:16:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys What makes you think I'm not calm? Is it screaming you heard through the internet?[:D] An indicator of not being calm is jumping to conclusions and assumptions very quickly and acting upon them. I hear nothing but what my computer puts out and you were a silent voice of discontent. That is all.

BitaTruble -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:16:15 PM)
I can tend to overthink things but three factors have prevented it from being too detrimental to our relationship. First, I don't rely just on my intellect. I involve my gut and my heart as well. When those three things are all in sync, then I have the best opportunity to ensure the path I'm on is correct for me. Second, I don't think about ways to get out of submitting.. I think about ways to be more pro-active so I can submit better. Third.. if someone told me that I was overthinking, that would kick my brain into overdrive.. why is that person telling me I think too much? To me, it's a defense mechanism of an insecure dominant. If he reasoning is sound, it can withstand any thoughts I may have on it. If the reasoning is not sound, then my thinking is going to come in handy to get over obstacles. It's not just his job to maintain this relationship.. it's mine as well and if my intellect helps in that regard (and it does) then it's a good thing.

crazyml -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:18:53 PM)
Grin - I'm sure I didn't hear any screaming over the net - but I was going to make a very similar point to Lockit (not that Lockit needs any help in defending herself) I don't think "over analysis" is a function of intelligence necessarily - I think that less smart people are just as likely to over think things as smart ones.

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:21:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble I can tend to overthink things but three factors have prevented it from being too detrimental to our relationship. First, I don't rely just on my intellect. I involve my gut and my heart as well. When those three things are all in sync, then I have the best opportunity to ensure the path I'm on is correct for me. Second, I don't think about ways to get out of submitting.. I think about ways to be more pro-active so I can submit better. Third.. if someone told me that I was overthinking, that would kick my brain into overdrive.. why is that person telling me I think too much? To me, it's a defense mechanism of an insecure dominant. If he reasoning is sound, it can withstand any thoughts I may have on it. If the reasoning is not sound, then my thinking is going to come in handy to get over obstacles. It's not just his job to maintain this relationship.. it's mine as well and if my intellect helps in that regard (and it does) then it's a good thing. Wonderfully written. I'd like to highlight one of these lines because it hits on one of the things I was pondering. This would be the second guessing of sorts I was referring to. If you've submitted to him and have come to the point of trust do you not ever lay down your thoughts and just do without working out if his reasoning is good..or have you not worked out that as a whole to the man beforehand?

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:23:27 PM)
quote: An indicator of not being calm is jumping to conclusions and assumptions very quickly and acting upon them. I hear nothing but what my computer puts out and you were a silent voice of discontent. That is all. You must have a crystal ball up your ass cause it seems that's where your pulling this belief from..Did you read anything in that as well? Go away and fight with someone else.[:D]

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:25:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml Grin - I'm sure I didn't hear any screaming over the net - but I was going to make a very similar point to Lockit (not that Lockit needs any help in defending herself) I don't think "over analysis" is a function of intelligence necessarily - I think that less smart people are just as likely to over think things as smart ones. I don't believe that to be true..I think anyone can over think but to what degree and frequency may tend to happen with" more intelligent" people.

Lockit -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:30:50 PM)
Damn dude... compare how many you argue with, with how many I argue with. Getting a clue doesn't take too long for the intelligent. I wasn't posting to argue and won't continue. You have made yourself clear. But I come and go when I dictate, not some guy online who thinks he's something special.

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:33:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Damn dude... compare how many you argue with, with how many I argue with. Getting a clue doesn't take too long for the intelligent. I wasn't posting to argue and won't continue. You have made yourself clear. But I come and go when I dictate, not some guy online who thinks he something special. I'd say your probably proved at least one of your earlier assertions...Projection may not be a sign of intelligence. Take care.

dovie -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:39:47 PM)
Icarys, You are funny! I'm not sure if it's funny ha-ha or funny peculiar. Have fun and stay away from the sun. LOL. I crack myself up sometimes. dovie

DarkSteven -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:40:37 PM)
I prefer to use the term "smart" because I can't spell "intellectual".

VideoAdminRho -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:43:08 PM)
Fast reply- Enough with the personal attacks, folks.

Icarys -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:43:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dovie Icarys, You are funny! I'm not sure if it's funny ha-ha or funny peculiar. Have fun and stay away from the sun. LOL. I crack myself up sometimes. dovie A poet and didn't know it? [:D] It can be both by the way.

reynardfox -> RE: When being smart can be a curse. (8/7/2010 4:47:15 PM)
I love smart women. Pity they scare stupid people.

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