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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 3:48:45 PM   
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The P & R section is a continual clusterfuck.


That is precisely the reason the P&R forum must remain. It's like quarantining a very nasty and highly communicable disease. We must keep all of those who rant on about politics (while oddly enough knowing very little about politics) in their place - much like the science behind a cesspool. The Off Topic Discussion forum is now a pleasant place to visit. It sucked until the P&R forum was created.



So what you are saying is that we ARE the "Quite Not Licensed To Drive" lane of the forum superhighway. Man....I feel almost ashamed.

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 3:49:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll admit that I wasn't too keen on the idea of the Politics and Religion section when it first started out.  Part of the reason for that has been more than realized.  While I wouldn't say it is the majority of posters in this section, I don't think there would be any argument that there are some just plain rude, nasty posters that write things that wouldn't be acceptable in any other section. 

I don't think the section should go, but I honestly do believe that people posting in this section should be held to the same standard as anywhere else.  It really is CM first and the P&R section second.  Some of the derogatory things that I've seen written here, including offensive thread titles that are easily read on the scroll even if a person isn't participating in this section, shouldn't fly.  Overall, I know folks are happier with the moderation for the site, but some of the stuff that passes in this section is downright ridiculous.  TOS specifically says that you shouldn't insult the kinks and lifestyles of others, yet down here, there doesn't seem to be a standard if someone wants to attack a person for their religion.  The same goes for their political affiliation and beliefs.

I'm all for folks being able to debate any subject that they wish, but this section should be held to the same standard as any other board.  There isn't a person reading this post that can't think of some examples of things people have written here that were specifically beyond where the boundary should be.  They aren't willing to change and the Mods aren't really doing the job for this area.


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 4:02:26 PM   
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That is precisely the reason the P&R forum must remain. It's like quarantining a very nasty and highly communicable disease. We must keep all of those who rant on about politics (while oddly enough knowing very little about politics) in their place - much like the science behind a cesspool. The Off Topic Discussion forum is now a pleasant place to visit. It sucked until the P&R forum was created.


Exactly. It's like with the mafia - as long as they're only murdering each other, nobody really gives a shit. More power to 'em.  Politics and Religion is like a perpetual gang war. As long as the people who post here only fight here, it serves a purpose.


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 4:12:21 PM   
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Cm, get rid of the fuck ups. Otherwise your word means nothing.

Will you complain if you're the first casualty of the new policy?

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 4:54:41 PM   
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There isn't a person reading this post that can't think of some examples of things people have written here that were specifically beyond where the boundary should be.
Yes there is...me. I am unharmed by words on the Internet, and so should all adults be.

If I had my way the moderation of the whole board would be vastly lightened up


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 5:02:04 PM   
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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 6:37:05 PM   
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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 6:48:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
The P & R section is a continual clusterfuck.


That is precisely the reason the P&R forum must remain. It's like quarantining a very nasty and highly communicable disease. We must keep all of those who rant on about politics (while oddly enough knowing very little about politics) in their place - much like the science behind a cesspool. The Off Topic Discussion forum is now a pleasant place to visit. It sucked until the P&R forum was created.

Might I make a suggestion? Simply do not visit this forum if it troubles you. I responded to this thread only because I saw the post fly by on the ticker but I realized what an intellectual wasteland P&R was months ago (along with the fact that certain mods have a slightly liberal bias) and I just don't visit any more. Problem solved. Perhaps you should try it.

What I have often wondered is why there is no Sports forum.





A sports forum would be nice....Can you imagine what would happen when certain posters would claim that their favorite (conservative/liberal hitter) was batting .375 when in reality he was batting a mere .220?

As a self admitted narcissitic and ego driven poster. It would be nice if you would all just cave and admit to the errors of your ways and except my ideology as being the one true way. Life would be so simple and you would all feel so much better about yourselves.

My clown show has been going along quite smoothly of late.

As Jeffff once said,.....

"Baby take off your coat
Real slow
Take off your shoes
I'll take off your shoes
Baby take off your dress
Yes, yes, yes

You can leave your nose on
You can leave your nose on
You can leave your nose on..."


There are just way too many folks that participate on this thing that have no concept of what it means to conduct an honest and forthright conversation.

I don't miss any poster that has been dismissed just as I quickly became a footnote, during what is now pretty much universally accepted as "CM's days of darkness," in the era in which I was banned.

It would be nice if people had the ability to recognize a meaningful source and story from fiction or one that is fabricated and perverted in a manner to support and further some twisted ideology.

Fucking Gorean trekkies, we are surrounded by them. Is it against the law to delete someone in real life?

The political section needs it's Gorean Trekkies as well, I guess.

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 7:14:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		This thread is interesting for the participation and musings of the folk who tend to want to actually engage in politically debate using credible sources and a reasonable amount of fact - and the absence of the hatemongers who pursue their agenda of divisiveness in P and R.
 
They are probably starting a thread about Michelle Obama being fat or something equally inane. Nah, nobody could be that hateful...

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 7:53:52 PM   
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There are literally hundreds of sites that will allow someone to air all their political beliefs, whether correct or unfounded. Why have it here? What does it really accomplish?

I would argue this site would run much more smoothly if it were removed.

I personally don't see personal attacks lessening. There are posters in this section that frequent no other part of CM. Other than their participation in the P&R section, they seem to have little if anything positive to add to the site.


You've got to be kidding me. This has to be some bizarre new joke. Since when have you, of all people, given a rat's ass about whether the site runs smoothly, or whether anyone adds anything positive to the site?

Despite its faults, P&R is the last forum on the site where people can go to have a genuine discussion. There was a time when the entire board had a wide variety of interesting discussions, with a wide variety of interesting posters, and now it's degenerated into nothing but a chat room clown show. Largely because of you and a handful of others who decided it would be more fun that way. And now you want to take this last refuge of semi-serious discussion and purge it from the board, because this is the one remaining forum that isn't fun for you anymore?

Fuck that. Is there no limit to your narcissism or your egocentricity? You've already got a dozen other forums that you consider to be wide open for your clown show. If you don't like the way the discussions unfold here, go back to trolling the Gor forum and stay out of this one. You make some good contributions here, I agree almost completely with your sociopolitical perspective, and I enjoy reading a lot of your arguments in this forum, but if it doesn't meet your standards, hit the road and leave what's left of it for the people who obviously do find it worth their time.



Boooooo Hoooooooo


Also, how about you pick up your marbles and stop coming here to play if you don't like it here?
lol

Tell the person or thing that is forcing you to come down here, read the posts, and reply to stop making you come down here.

If someone is forcing you to come down here, call the police.
If you are unable and can't stop yourself from coming down here than go get psychiatric help.

I totally disagree with your OP, since the mods have been doing a great job down here, those that are unable to demonstrate civility, are being "encouraged" to stop attacking other people.

This place has taken a turn for the better, and it is now a very enjoyable place to be!

I am a very gentle and fragile person, I now feel safe here.
Thank you to the owners and the mods!!


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:14:12 PM   
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Yes there is...me. I am unharmed by words on the Internet, and so should all adults be.



Well there ya go! Common ground!

Seriously.... if one gets offended on a political forum, on a kink website, even if they were called out directly.... they seriously need to find some new forms of entertainment.

Throwning out there in general to the folks who get professionally offeneded...

Is your life so shallow that you allow internet jabber to hurt your little fellings?

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:24:18 PM   
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Remember that?



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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:32:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was you that offered and I said where and when.

But I wasn't offened in anyway shape or form and I surely did not go tattletailing to the Moderators.


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:32:02 PM   
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I once had you tell`n me to meet for fist a cuffs......

Remember that?




Isn't a "fist a cuffs" a new mixed drink?
lol
I bet he wanted to meet you for a drink, than you could post on the positive experiences board.

OR, maybe "fist a cuffs" is a kinky sex toy, and he wanted to meet you, so he could use the toy on you.
Goodness!


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:54:42 PM   
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Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum


Well, if the Iris Logic were moved from Politics and Religious, you'd be left with Polite Us.

Would that help? And do you think people would visit the Iris Logic Forum?

http://www.irislogic.com/

But...since it's really the Politics and Religion forum, not Religious, there's no way to have Polite Us.

Perhaps they could change the title, see if it works?

Maybe just have an Irises Forum?





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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 8:55:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Isn't a "fist a cuffs" a new mixed drink?
lol
I bet he wanted to meet you for a drink, than you could post on the positive experiences board.

OR, maybe "fist a cuffs" is a kinky sex toy, and he wanted to meet you, so he could use the toy on you.
Goodness! "










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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 9:01:33 PM   
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You`re mind`s in the gutter......


Just trying to make "peace" down here in the wonderful politics and religion section.


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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 9:02:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Cm, get rid of the fuck ups. Otherwise your word means nothing.

Will you complain if you're the first casualty of the new policy?

~stef




I never really complained the last three times I was booted I doubt the fourth will be much different.

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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 9:22:38 PM   
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Boooooo Hoooooooo


Also, how about you pick up your marbles and stop coming here to play if you don't like it here?
lol

Tell the person or thing that is forcing you to come down here, read the posts, and reply to stop making you come down here.

If someone is forcing you to come down here, call the police.
If you are unable and can't stop yourself from coming down here than go get psychiatric help.

I totally disagree with your OP, since the mods have been doing a great job down here, those that are unable to demonstrate civility, are being "encouraged" to stop attacking other people.

This place has taken a turn for the better, and it is now a very enjoyable place to be!

I am a very gentle and fragile person, I now feel safe here.
Thank you to the owners and the mods!!




It has not gotten better...It is a haven for people like yourself to spout out over your lopsided ideology.

It is a place for people like you to spew out hate without realizing how you are being fed your information.

You don't like illegals. I get it. I'm not crazy about the fuckers myself. But they do serve a purpose that cannot be denied. You want to build a wall I want to go after the employers.

You want to look at all of the evils and ignore the positives. It's how people like you are built. There are two sides to everything you only able to look at one.

You have no problem about calling the current economic state of our Country a depression. It is a ridiculous observation. I know you wrote it although I can't seem to locate it....Edit much?

So the Howie Carr loving popeye and you share a similar view and how you feed those views is pretty much in the same manner. You locate a biased source that will feed you just enough information to validate a position.

That is how people like you and so many others choose to operate.

It sucks.



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RE: Do away with the Politics and Religious Forum - 8/8/2010 9:27:16 PM   
Marini


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booo hooo, I don't give a rats ass what you think about my opinions.
Why would I care what YOU think?

LMFAO
Do you have any self control at all?

If you don't like it down here, don't come down here.

Then you're problem is solved.

Do you think displaying whiny "boo hoo" I don't like it down here mommy behavior, is going to change anything?

Domiguy? man up! or step off bro, we won't miss you.

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