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juliaoceania -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:02:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: It is called being a "smart ass" Indeed Well... better than the opposite sorta ass.... BTW, you never responded, ever take a critical thinking class?

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:14:08 PM)
quote: BTW, you never responded, ever take a critical thinking class? Several of them.

juliaoceania -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:17:04 PM)
So you know that there are three possible outcomes to the scientific method.. positive, negative, and inconclusive... it isn't black and white, right and wrong, etc etc etc... there is always the third outcome to contend with... I know it is annoying that the world is not a binary opposition, but it isn't. It is rather a naive world view to expect it to be.

laurell3 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:22:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: And yet, there are many in the world that would say that spanking, assplay, caning and cropping are absolutely wrong and abusive as well. So those people are also wrong. How hard is that to understand? How does that address my actual point? You come here proclaiming others WRONG for their beliefs and when you are called on it you use subterfuge to defend your position when it is still quite obvious that you cannot possibly have any idea what is right for others. Are you going to keep giving one line snide answers rather than actually displaying any intellect to address the questions asked of you on your ridiculously dogmatic and egotistical beliefs?

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:28:13 PM)
quote: I know it is annoying that the world is not a binary opposition, but it isn't. It is rather a naive world view to expect it to be. The world is what it is. It is not what it is not. There is no third position to take.

juliaoceania -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:32:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: I know it is annoying that the world is not a binary opposition, but it isn't. It is rather a naive world view to expect it to be. The world is what it is. It is not what it is not. There is no third position to take. The world is exactly what it is... how very true, but our understanding of reality is not so concrete, people being as imperfect as we are....

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:33:04 PM)
quote: You come here proclaiming others WRONG for their beliefs I stated the proposition quite clearly at the outset. Enjoying punishment is wrong. Enjoying spanking is a given. Nothing has been said here to challenge the demarcation, save the occasional realization that spanking is not per se punishment. Your attempt to repeat the erroneous conflation of spanking and punishment received the warranted response.

laurell3 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:35:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: You come here proclaiming others WRONG for their beliefs I stated the proposition quite clearly at the outset. Enjoying punishment is wrong. Enjoying spanking is a given. Nothing has been said here to challenge the demarcation, save the occasional realization that spanking is not per se punishment. Your attempt to repeat the erroneous conflation of spanking and punishment received the warranted response. How does that answer the repeated question of how YOU can determine what is wrong for someone else? If you can, then can't the others that say YOU are wrong for enjoying spanking equally as valid as your position making that choice for someone?

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:39:11 PM)
quote: How does that answer the repeated question of how YOU can determine what is wrong for someone else? I do not "determine" anything. I state what is. What you do with the information is not my concern.

Aileen1968 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: You come here proclaiming others WRONG for their beliefs I stated the proposition quite clearly at the outset. *Enjoying punishment is wrong. Enjoying spanking is a given. Nothing has been said here to challenge the demarcation, save the occasional realization that spanking is not per se* punishment.** Your attempt to repeat the erroneous conflation of spanking and punishment received the warranted response. I got punished just yesterday. I was tied to the pole in the garage and beaten. I was crying, not from the beating, but because I had fucked up and disappointed him. And then he fucked me up the ass...hard. No lube. No warmup. I enjoyed it. Sooooo...spanking most definitely can and is a punishment and one can enjoy it and it isn't wrong to feel that enjoyment.

juliaoceania -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:42:32 PM)
quote: Enjoying punishment is wrong. Enjoying spanking is a given. Would you believe there are every combination of couples out there... There are people who like spankings with those who do not like administering them There are those who like to spank with those who like a spanking There are people who dislike spankings with those who like to give them.... None of these above combinations are wrong as long as everyone knows what the hell is going on with each other and agrees to go along with it. It is called informed consent. You are saying that even if people are happy in their situation their situation is "wrong",... you have no right to tell other people what they do in the privacy of their home and makes them happy is "wrong"... you are not qualified to judge what makes other people happy... period, end of story

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:44:01 PM)
quote: Sooooo...spanking most definitely can and is a punishment and one can enjoy it and it isn't wrong to feel that enjoyment. One correction: spanking may be punishment. Other than that, where do you claim to disagree with me?

laurell3 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:45:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: How does that answer the repeated question of how YOU can determine what is wrong for someone else? I do not "determine" anything. I state what is. What you do with the information is not my concern. I see....your opinions are completely lacking in substance and you have no ability or desire to substantiate them. Thank you for proving our point. Have a nice night!

texangael -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:47:35 PM)
quote: you have no right to tell other people what they do in the privacy of their home and makes them happy is "wrong" I have every right, but that is another matter. Why do you insist on the erroneous conflation of spanking and punishment? Straw men are never persuasive.

juliaoceania -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:50:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: texangael quote: you have no right to tell other people what they do in the privacy of their home and makes them happy is "wrong" I have every right, but that is another matter. Why do you insist on the erroneous conflation of spanking and punishment? Straw men are never persuasive. This thread is entitled Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you?... you are the one that conflated it, not I.

SinfulSaint -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:54:35 PM)
Wow...spanking to some is punishment..to others its just pure fun. Some cry from a paint stirrer...some like sjamboks..what works for one person or a couple... works from them. There is NO right or wrong in this...as long as its consensual between two adults.... Spanking or beatings as a punishment....well...me personally...it wouldn't be punishment..but I'm a Maso and no-one has ever even thought of pain as one for me....welts, red, bruises from beatings is a reward to ME.... There is no BDSM online handbook that states on page 1079 ...paragraph 3...line 4.a ...thatsays if spanking should be used as pain or pleasure....it is what it is for who is giving and receiving it.. Peace out.

Twoshoes -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 7:56:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 I got punished just yesterday. I was tied to the pole in the garage and beaten. I was crying, not from the beating, but because I had fucked up and disappointed him. And then he fucked me up the ass...hard. No lube. No warmup. I enjoyed it. Sooooo...spanking most definitely can and is a punishment and one can enjoy it and it isn't wrong to feel that enjoyment. Ok, now I'm confused again. Everyone else was saying that actual disciplinary punishment shouldn't be enjoyed by either party. I'm assuming he enjoyed it too? You guys might want to stop trying to argue with texangael. He explained his view. And I would bet my dinner he has NPD and cannot relate to you enough to recognize the validity of yours no matter what you try. It's just derailing the thread.

Aileen1968 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 8:00:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Twoshoes quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 I got punished just yesterday. I was tied to the pole in the garage and beaten. I was crying, not from the beating, but because I had fucked up and disappointed him. And then he fucked me up the ass...hard. No lube. No warmup. I enjoyed it. Sooooo...spanking most definitely can and is a punishment and one can enjoy it and it isn't wrong to feel that enjoyment. Ok, now I'm confused again. Everyone else was saying that actual disciplinary punishment shouldn't be enjoyed by either party. I'm assuming he enjoyed it too? You might want to stop trying to argue with texangael. He explained his view. And I would bet my dinner he has NPD and cannot relate to you enough to recognize the validity of yours no matter what you try. It's just derailing the thread. Well....it doesn't start out as enjoyable. We always end up fucking whether he has hit me during a punishment or just because he wants to. They all end up nicely for both of us. As for the texan... I know he's acting like a douche. Sometimes it's fun to poke them with a stick.

laurell3 -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 8:04:06 PM)
I'm having a hard time picturing Shore beating you...does he have to stoop over? Do you need 4 foot quirt? I have one in my garage, brand new! [;)]

Twoshoes -> RE: Should/Does your Master ENJOY spanking you? (8/12/2010 8:07:28 PM)
Thx, for clarifying. That makes sense. The texan part was directed towards two other people not you. :)

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