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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 4:52:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Common sense or not, it's very common to see people who just couldn't wait to finish the car ride and get out to light up, and they think cracking a window is sufficient enough. Or they're sitting there at a table with their infant in a carrier next to them just puffing away.

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Also it is common sense. I can not believe anyone would do that,


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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:31:00 PM   
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Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK...

I agree.   But I do not like any law for this.

what are your thoughts?



So you think it is child abuse, but do not support a law to stop it... Huh? So, we aren't supposed to support laws that stop child abuse?

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:34:27 PM   
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Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK...

I agree.   But I do not like any law for this.

what are your thoughts?



So you think it is child abuse, but do not support a law to stop it... Huh? So, we aren't supposed to support laws that stop child abuse?


I do not think the govt belongs legislating common sense.  We need less laws- not more laws.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:36:03 PM   
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I do not think the govt belongs legislating common sense.  We need less laws- not more laws.



No. We need people who don't need laws telling them not to slowly murder their children. There's a difference.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:40:16 PM   
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Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK...

I agree.   But I do not like any law for this.

what are your thoughts?



So you think it is child abuse, but do not support a law to stop it... Huh? So, we aren't supposed to support laws that stop child abuse?


I do not think the govt belongs legislating common sense.  We need less laws- not more laws.


I sooooo agree with you, I think it should be my right to beat the living shit out any moron who would smoke in a car with a little one. We shouldn't have laws against that because I am just attempting to beat some sense into them

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:45:07 PM   
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Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK...

I agree.   But I do not like any law for this.

what are your thoughts?



So you think it is child abuse, but do not support a law to stop it... Huh? So, we aren't supposed to support laws that stop child abuse?


I do not think the govt belongs legislating common sense.  We need less laws- not more laws.


I sooooo agree with you, I think it should be my right to beat the living shit out any moron who would smoke in a car with a little one. We shouldn't have laws against that because I am just attempting to beat some sense into them


Smoking tho is a legal act.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:46:15 PM   
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Smoking tho is a legal act.


Not if they pass a law against it

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:46:20 PM   
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Smoking tho is a legal act.



So is drinking alcohol, you can't do that in a car either. Because of the high potential to harm others.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 5:49:25 PM   
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I hate the smell.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 6:09:36 PM   
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Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK...

I agree.   But I do not like any law for this.

what are your thoughts?



So you think it is child abuse, but do not support a law to stop it... Huh? So, we aren't supposed to support laws that stop child abuse?


I do not think the govt belongs legislating common sense.  We need less laws- not more laws.


I sooooo agree with you, I think it should be my right to beat the living shit out any moron who would smoke in a car with a little one. We shouldn't have laws against that because I am just attempting to beat some sense into them


It's legal. Go for it.


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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 6:45:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Smoking in a car is not that horrible.

For one every smoker, I've ever driven with, rolls down the window, it's not like you smoke with the windows up, unless smoking pot, and I'd hope people wouldn't do that with children. When driving generally you are moving at like 30 mph or more, so the air flow is ridiculous in comparison to the smoke. On top of it, if you are in most cities, you are killing your children anyway, if that is the angle one wants to come from. Most cities smell horrible, I can smell Saint Louis miles before I even get to it. No one notices that lives there because the whole city is an ashtray, in terms of pollution.

I can only imagine what los angeles is like.

More nonsense. I believe 70% or thereabouts live in metropolitan areas, with the smog alerts and all that, and people are worried about a cigarette in a moving car with the window open, and generally vents blowing air in. LOL.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 6:59:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are plenty of times when the window's not practical, especially when it's reeeally hot or cold, rainy, etc.

I have asthma & allergies and trust me, I don't want to be around any smoke.  I love campfires, but after an evening dodging the smoke I'll cough for hours afterward.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 7:16:37 PM   
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It's hard for me to imagine that people would even think about subjecting their kids to cigarette smoke with all the information that's available today about the harmful affects.

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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 7:19:52 PM   
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Why are smokers allowed to breed?

I hate the smell.

ah, come on, you know that kissing an ashtray is sexy! 



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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 7:23:29 PM   
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Why are smokers allowed to breed?

I hate the smell.


Sterilize anyone who has ever smoked....that will stop it!


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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 7:25:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's really a horrible thing to say. Smoking has no relation to being able to breed, that'd be like saying why are gay men allowed to go to parks, I hate how seedy gay men are.


If you hate the smell of ciggies, ok, fine I hate them to, but I'd never ask why smokers are allowed to breed since they smoke, because I hate cig smoke smell.
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Why are smokers allowed to breed?

I hate the smell.



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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 7:25:59 PM   
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There are plenty of times when the window's not practical, especially when it's reeeally hot or cold, rainy, etc.

I have asthma & allergies and trust me, I don't want to be around any smoke.  I love campfires, but after an evening dodging the smoke I'll cough for hours afterward.



LOL. Ummmmm, I smoke, though I don't have kids, and today I rolled the window down if I want to smoke, always do (It was mid 90's), I've never seen a smoker, smoke in a sealed vehicle with all windows up, and I was by myself even. You either don't smoke, or roll the window down. If you did try to smoke with the windows up, it'd end up looking like one of those cheech and chong scenes or one of those bar scenes. It may happen, but It's simply not something more than a small small fraction would do at best. Simply because you'd be in a smoke cloud. In 33.9 years on this earth, I've never been in a car, truck or otherwise with a smoker that lit up without rolling the window down. Seriously. Never happened.

In the rain, you generally, crack the windows down about 2 inches, 4 windows in my vehicle. The rain doesn't get in and the air flow is adequate to suck the smoke out. When a car is moving forward, you are encountering most of the rain head on and it tends to follow the car lines, as opposed to a sitting car, Very little if any gets in unless the rain is a crazy downpour, in which case you simply wouldn't smoke for 10 minutes, it doesn't happen that often.

But It could just happen that all the smokers I've been around are odd balls, I suppose.

Anyway, sounds like a lot of people just complaining to complain. There are much bigger problems affecting the poor children, than people smoking while driving.




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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 8:17:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was a kid, my father smoked, and always in the car, especially on long journeys, erm has passive smoking harmed myself or my sisters, well, we are all still alive some 35 to forty years later. As to the thought that it might cause respiratory problems, I alone in the family had hay fever, allergic to nature which I had from age 4 through till 38 and that has been attributed to lactose intolerance as a baby, I was a formula milk sprog, cow milk is meant for baby cows, not baby humans.

Later when I took up smoking at age 30, I found one good thing about smoking whilst driving, it kept my mind sharp and now we hear so much about people who wreck due to being drowsy at the wheel, I wonder, were they ex smokers.

Asfor winding the window down, are you joking, have you smelled the air on a busy road, give me the tobacco smoke any day, the diesel fumes can stay outside.


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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 8:25:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		My folks smoked in the car when I was a kid. I hated it. It was nasty.

Having said that here is a link to the last study I could find doing a quick goggle search.



http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20030515/secondhand-smoke-study-raises-ire


It seems to me to be more a matter of courtesy than anything else.






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RE: Smoking in car declared 'child abuse' in UK... - 8/9/2010 8:25:48 PM   
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Asfor winding the window down, are you joking, have you smelled the air on a busy road, give me the tobacco smoke any day, the diesel fumes can stay outside.



Well, I live in a rural area (less than 20,000 population), so rolling the window down always provides clean air. If in a large metro, well, there is no escape, as all the air is dirty, which is one of the reasons I will never live in a large city, hell I doubt I'd ever live in a city over 50000. Really, what I want is to live right next to a protected Forest area near the coast, I've been fantasy browsing house prices in Washington and Oregon, they have some nice big protected forests out there, some pretty close to the ocean.



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