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What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:05:37 AM

Jaybeee

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I emphasise the word 'Master', I'm not asking what a man must do to remain with a woman (love/cherish etc), although I accept there will be a degree of overlap. I also accept that you generally aren't in the relationship to question his exercise of authority over you, but I imagine, before it started, you had a minimum standard which he met, so you entered, and he then either exceeded it, maintained it, or fell below it.

Have you ever had a relationship end because he wasn't masterful enough? What precisely did he fail to live up to your standards? And again, I don't mean him lounging around the house while you went out and earned (actually, imo you should do that on demand, if he demands, but that would be by prior agreement)

Looking forward to your thoughts, ladies.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:09:10 AM

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He chose to ignore the agreements we had discussed and made prior to us becoming M/s.

I couldn't trust him, therefore he couldn't be my Master.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:13:20 AM

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I am not sure why you are trying to split the two. The man (or in my case women) and the master are both the same person. If he thinks he is going to lay around the house all day while I work, then that shows me what kind of person he is and it would definately be a deal breaker. Now if someone agrees to that from the start, then they would have to live with it, but honestly why would they. I want a responsible adult to serve, not another kid to raise.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:15:44 AM

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As a Master i expected him to live up to the level of trust he inspired. He failed. I walked.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:49:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I am not sure why you are trying to split the two. The man (or in my case women) and the master are both the same person.

I AM splitting the role from the man. I'm doing so because I want to know what constitutes sufficient mastery for a slave to remain loyal, not what constitutes sufficient grounds for a woman to remain with a man.

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If he thinks he is going to lay around the house all day while I work, then that shows me what kind of person he is and it would definately be a deal breaker. Now if someone agrees to that from the start, then they would have to live with it, but honestly why would they. .

Millions of of vanilla guys do have to live with it, even agreeing to it in advance, and I ask the same question of them. However, that's off-topic.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:53:47 AM

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If the slave is a girl, nail her pussy to a sheet of plywood, if a man, staple his nuts to a fencepost....then using your command voice in a firm and confident manner while extending your arm palm down towards the slave say, 'Stay!'.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 5:54:30 AM

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 7:26:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I am not sure why you are trying to split the two. The man (or in my case women) and the master are both the same person.

I AM splitting the role from the man. I'm doing so because I want to know what constitutes sufficient mastery for a slave to remain loyal, not what constitutes sufficient grounds for a woman to remain with a man.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I couldn't split the Master role, or any other part, from a partner.

I interact with whole people, not parts, so the entirety of their behavior is something I consider, not pieces of it.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 7:34:41 AM

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It must be a good fit from the start , don't grab some oNe just because you don't want to be alone, seek and you shall find tho it mAY TAKE LONGER YOU WILL BE HAPPIER IN THE LONG RUN BOUNTY

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 8:55:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I am not sure why you are trying to split the two. The man (or in my case women) and the master are both the same person.

I AM splitting the role from the man. I'm doing so because I want to know what constitutes sufficient mastery for a slave to remain loyal, not what constitutes sufficient grounds for a woman to remain with a man.

quote:

If he thinks he is going to lay around the house all day while I work, then that shows me what kind of person he is and it would definately be a deal breaker. Now if someone agrees to that from the start, then they would have to live with it, but honestly why would they. .

Millions of of vanilla guys do have to live with it, even agreeing to it in advance, and I ask the same question of them. However, that's off-topic.

Your hypothetical is a man but;

I have a relationship with an entire person; not parts of them, or their "role". You may split them, but my decision to remain loyal to my domme is completely about who she is as a human being - - the whole person.

< Message edited by CeriseNin -- 8/11/2010 8:56:52 AM >

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 9:10:07 AM

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He could not provide me with any of the essential emotional components I needed; he thought that because we were so "hot" together, it was a relationship.

He disrespected the boundaries of our relationship and destroyed every bit of trust I had in him.

He would not communicate with me on any important level.

He became an angry, selfish, negative, antisocial person who took out his anger on me.

And now he wonders why we cannot see each other ever again.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 9:45:32 AM

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All he has to do to keep me is to continue to be the man i submitted to, and fell in love with. A man of honor, integrity and a wicked snese of humor.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 9:55:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I am not sure why you are trying to split the two. The man (or in my case women) and the master are both the same person.

I AM splitting the role from the man. I'm doing so because I want to know what constitutes sufficient mastery for a slave to remain loyal, not what constitutes sufficient grounds for a woman to remain with a man.

How do you define mastery?

quote:

quote:

If he thinks he is going to lay around the house all day while I work, then that shows me what kind of person he is and it would definately be a deal breaker. Now if someone agrees to that from the start, then they would have to live with it, but honestly why would they. .

Millions of of vanilla guys do have to live with it, even agreeing to it in advance, and I ask the same question of them. However, that's off-topic.

Actually you mentioned laying around the house all day, so I am not sure how that's off topic.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 9:56:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

It must be a good fit from the start , don't grab some oNe just because you don't want to be alone, seek and you shall find tho it mAY TAKE LONGER YOU WILL BE HAPPIER IN THE LONG RUN BOUNTY

If more people followed this advice, there would be a lot less threads asking why did "this" go wrong.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 9:59:34 AM

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quote:

I can't speak for anyone else, but I couldn't split the Master role, or any other part, from a partner.

ditto. I trust and submit to him because the man that he is, not because of some title/role that is attached.

and

quote:

All he has to do to keep me is to continue to be the man i submitted to, and fell in love with. A man of honor, integrity and a wicked sense of humor.

ditto.

If your question OP is what are your expectations with regard to role, protocol and all that jazz, I personally don't have any. He has as little or as much control as he wants to exercise at any given time.

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 8/11/2010 10:05:51 AM >

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 10:01:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

He could not provide me with any of the essential emotional components I needed; he thought that because we were so "hot" together, it was a relationship.

He disrespected the boundaries of our relationship and destroyed every bit of trust I had in him.

He would not communicate with me on any important level.

He became an angry, selfish, negative, antisocial person who took out his anger on me.

And now he wonders why we cannot see each other ever again.

This!!!

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 10:11:16 AM

Jaybeee

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I'm getting the feeling I should have asked, "What dominating things must a DOM do to remain your Dom?".

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 10:11:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

He could not provide me with any of the essential emotional components I needed; he thought that because we were so "hot" together, it was a relationship.

He disrespected the boundaries of our relationship and destroyed every bit of trust I had in him.

He would not communicate with me on any important level.

He became an angry, selfish, negative, antisocial person who took out his anger on me.

And now he wonders why we cannot see each other ever again.

As I was reading this my thoughts went "But come on.... they were so "hot" together. What a shame.". How ironic.

Are you referring to trust, security, openness and honesty?

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 10:26:54 AM

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I am not a sub/slave, but I definitely have an understanding of the whys and wherefores, and speaking as a fellow human being I have to chime in and say: it isn't about the typical Domly, breast-beating, inhibitive/prohibitive things a Dom can theoretically do in an attempt to retain property. Any Dominant (of either gender) worth their salt already understands this; it's those "essential emotional components" that make or break any relationship, and yes, they belong in the M/s arrangement just like any other. Where they are absent, there is no joy, no satisfaction, and no point. A Master who lets these components shine in the relationship should have no trouble keeping what's His.

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RE: What must a Master do to keep you? - 8/11/2010 11:11:57 AM

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Carol's expectations of me:

a) To love her.
b) To lead effectively and to her benefit.
c) To avoid being a dumbass as much as possible.

It is, of course (b) above where the magic happens. Given an entire life to work with, it'd be impossible to enumerate all the things which would constitute "effectively" and "to her benefit". They are in the "you know it when you see it" category.

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