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Why isn't there a fence being built between Canada and the US? They have come here illegally too, for crying out loud. I can tell you why, because Mexicans are a different color and they speak a different language, and they have a far different culture than Canadians.

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Be prepared to pay a lot more to get your car washed, your yard landscaped, and for produce at your local market once we stop the flow, I welcome paying more to stop the exploitation, but something tells me that the very people pissing and moaning about illegals are going to be the same ones pissing and moaning about paying more for their lettuce

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As far as the drug excuse.... quit doing drugs. simple as that.

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The thing that gives me the impression that you are reactionary in your posts is that you do not seem interested in sustainable solutions to the problem, only in reiterating it and building walls, as if that will make it go away...

A wall isn't going to stop rich people from getting visas so they can do what you outline in your article, yet I see nothing but unsustainable solutions from you. And BTW, changing the constitution isn't going to happen. More people are against it than for it, so advocating changing the constitution is like advocating for an Act of God to stop illegal immigration, even if 75% of the people agreed with you it is a time consuming process full of pitfalls and problems

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The thing that gives me the impression that you are reactionary in your posts is that you do not seem interested in sustainable solutions to the problem, only in reiterating it and building walls, as if that will make it go away...

A wall isn't going to stop rich people from getting visas so they can do what you outline in your article, yet I see nothing but unsustainable solutions from you. And BTW, changing the constitution isn't going to happen. More people are against it than for it, so advocating changing the constitution is like advocating for an Act of God to stop illegal immigration, even if 75% of the people agreed with you it is a time consuming process full of pitfalls and problems

Who said i was in favor of a wall?

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As far as the drug excuse.... quit doing drugs. simple as that.

Tazzy, are you insinuating I use drugs?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The thing that gives me the impression that you are reactionary in your posts is that you do not seem interested in sustainable solutions to the problem, only in reiterating it and building walls, as if that will make it go away...

A wall isn't going to stop rich people from getting visas so they can do what you outline in your article, yet I see nothing but unsustainable solutions from you. And BTW, changing the constitution isn't going to happen. More people are against it than for it, so advocating changing the constitution is like advocating for an Act of God to stop illegal immigration, even if 75% of the people agreed with you it is a time consuming process full of pitfalls and problems

Who said i was in favor of a wall?

If you are not in favor of the wall, my memory is incorrect.... changing the 14th Amendment is not going to happen either.

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As far as the drug excuse.... quit doing drugs. simple as that.

Tazzy, are you insinuating I use drugs?

Did i state you did?

Im saying you are advocating the legalization of drugs. If people stopped using, there wouldnt be a reason to advocate the legalization.

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I am against prohibition because people simply won't stop using drugs, ever. It is a corrupting influence on society that does nothing to stop the behavior of individuals who want to use them. We are causing problems on many fronts from an ill-advised vice policy. We are spending literally trillions of dollars on housing criminals, increased law enforcement, and the illegal gang activity that we are trying to stem at the border.

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We have enough trouble feeding and housing our own homeless without trying to feed and house the world. When our own are taken care of, then we can look outwards.

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Bullshit.

Fences aren't built along the Canadian border because millions of Canadians aren't flooding the country. In fact, Canada probably has to worry more about illegal immigration from the US than vice-versa. I worked there for 5 years and carried a Canadian work permit. I had to go through immigration each time, stand in line for hours sometimes, produce my documentation, provide a copy of some nafta letter, pay my fee. A friend of mine who does the same work, didn't want to bother with getting the work permit, lied about the reason she was entering the country, was caught and banned for a year. The legal ramifications at the time included 10 years in prison and a rather large fine.

This has nothing to do with their fucking skin color. It has a lot to do with the en masse invasion. I am, by far, not against people south of the border coming to the US to work. I am not against people trying to better their lives, or in some cases, survive. The problem I do have is that we can't seem to figure out a viable solution to the problem and it is a problem. In actuality, the fix is fairly simple. Target those who hire them with prison terms and fines. Fix the work visa system.

The problem I have with the entire thing is one side wants to throw them all out, the other does nothing but endlessly wring their hands and concoct reasons why it isn't a problem, and even if it was, why we can;t fix it.

I find it amusing how you ignored my ways of fixing the problem.... which are more rational than yours when you get right down to it. One addresses the problem at its root, the other just patches the hole temporarily until another leak springs up....

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Maybe it was the commune with the blood-soaked palin image that tossed it out the window.