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tazzygirl -> RE: Fact-checking the claims about 'anchor babies' and whether illegal immigrants 'drop and leave (8/14/2010 11:51:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1742543

That link should work. However, i would like the name of the local paper you took that Op from. Doing a google search, i could not find the article/report/opinion piece.
Tazzy I did not get the OP from a local paper.  I got it from the person who wrote the letter.  This was about kids who attended the school I work at and their mom.  The author of the letter was our school nurse, who is married to an Army colonel.

There are no links to my real life.  If you would like to know the details of what has happened since that thread, I would be happy to tell you.  If you are one of the folks that doesn't believe anything if there is no link, then just consider me a liar because I will not give any info that could lead to the kids or the nurse or my self being able to be identified.


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this was written to a local paper and is about a family i love


Your OP said it was written to a local paper. I could care less if you want to prove it or not. I was asking because in many of these cases, such as the woman who hid in a church seeking sanctuary... Elvira Arellano ... remember her? She came to the US, was caught and deported. She decided to return, got caught a second time, but this time with working under a stolen SS number. She was to turn herself in to immigration. She sought sanctuary in a church instead. She became the poster mom for illegal immigration.

This is also the woman who is fighting for the rights of illegal parents to stay in the US because they have a child here.

Arellano entered the United States illegally in 1997 and was apprehended and deported back to Mexico by the United States government.[3] She returned within days and lived illegally for three years in Oregon.[1] In 1999, she gave birth to a son, Saul Arellano, whose father remains unnamed by Elvira. Saul is a United States citizen. In 2000, Arellano moved to Chicago and worked as a cleaning woman at O'Hare International Airport.[3] In 2002, following a post-September 11 security sweep, she was arrested and convicted of Social Security Fraud.[3] Arellano was ordered to appear before immigration authorities on August 15, 2006.[1] On that date she took refuge in the Adalberto United Methodist church in the Humboldt Park area of Chicago, which maintained it was a sanctuary for undocumented immigrants. Before that, she sought safe haven for a year in Amor De Dios United Methodist Church with Pastor José S. Landaverde, who begun the new immigrant sanctuary movement in Illinois.[4]

On November 14, 2006, in Mexico City, Saul Arellano appeared before the Congress of Mexico.[5] The Mexican lawmakers passed a resolution to urge the United States government to suspend the deportation of Arellano and other parents of children who are United States citizens.

She was arrested on August 19, 2007 in Los Angeles. Within hours of her arrest Arellano was repatriated to Mexico by U.S. federal agents in compliance with an existing deportation order. She was accompanied to the Mexican border by an official of the Mexican consulate in San Diego, California, as well as by agents of the U.S. government

Arellano says that she should not have to choose between leaving her US citizen child in the U.S. or taking him to Mexico. [6] Critics of Arellano counter that she is exploiting her son in order to remain in the United States.[6] Latino advocates have highlighted this case as one of civil rights.[12] Arellano's claim of a "right of sanctuary" and a claim to stay in the United States has been taken up by Latino advocate groups such as National Alliance for Immigrants' Rights, NCLR, LULAC, among others.[12][13] In support, La Placita, a historic Los Angeles church, declared itself a sanctuary for any undocumented immigrant facing deportation, something it did during the 1980s for the first refugees from war-ridden Guatemala and El Salvador who escaped to California.[12]

The U.S. government's position is that Arellano is free to take Saul with her to Mexico in order to keep her family together.[1] Prior to Arrellano's deportation, the U.S. government also noted that there is no claim to sanctuary in a church under U.S. law.[6]

Upon her return to Mexico Arellano stated that, "the United States is the one who broke the law first. By letting people cross over [the border] without documents. By letting people pay taxes. . . ."[14] These comments led to criticism because this statement is very similar to those made by anti-immigration groups in the United States.[15]

On May 3, 2007, Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL), introduced H.R. 2182, which would grant legal immigrant status, with the possibility of applying for permanent residence status, to Arellano as well as 33 other people.[16] The bill was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary and (as of August 2007) has yet to move out of the committee.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvira_Arellano

They went to the Mexican government to get the right to stay on US soil. And because she found a way to sneak across the border, WE are at fault.

Arellano first entered the U.S. in 1997; she was caught and deported. A few days later, she reentered the country, a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. In 2002, she was arrested and convicted of using a false Social Security number in Chicago.

Arellano said that she didn't deserve to be deported, and that she used the fake Social Security number so she could pay taxes and buy a house.

"I didn't harm anyone," she said. "I just wanted to work."


(she didnt harm anyone... except the person whose SS number she stole... funny how they tend to forget that... how many forget that simple fact)

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/aug/22/local/me-arellano22

Mexico City – A Mexican migrant-rights advocate deported from the U.S. said she began a hunger strike Friday to push her government to demand its citizens receive better treatment north of the border.

Elvira Arellano, a former illegal immigrant who took sanctuary in a Chicago church during a yearlong fight to stay in the U.S., said she was holding the strike “because I want our government to listen, to act, to defend our migrant families.”

“Is Mexico prepared to receive all of these deported people and their families?” she asked U.S.-based migrant activists at a two-day conference at Mexico's Congress.

“Or is it prepared to defend them against all these attacks?” she said.

Along with opposing anti-immigrant measures in the U.S., conference participants are asking Mexico to reform its own laws by decriminalizing the migration of Central Americans and others to Mexico. They also insist Mexico work to improve economic and social conditions at home to stem the tide of migration north.


http://www.banderasnews.com/0711/nr-elviraarellano.htm

She wants Mexico to defend their actions to the US. Excuse me? We now are to take our laws based upon the wishes of other countries?

Why is it so many seem to not have a problem with these things happening within our own country while other countries are actually "allowed" to govern as they see fit?

I feel sorry for her son, who now lives in Mexico with his mother having the benefit of dual citizenship. But, that was her doing, not ours.




juliaoceania -> RE: Fact-checking the claims about 'anchor babies' and whether illegal immigrants 'drop and leave (8/15/2010 6:43:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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Then we shouldn't expect other countries to offer safe harbor for people they aren't responsible for.


When did we as a nation expect this? When did we as a people expect this? When did more then 2% of us expect this??




If you pay attention to global news, yes, we often pressure countries to harbor people who are being persecuted, and in fact we take pride in doing so ourselves.




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