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ORIGINAL: cillydom

My definition for doormat is any subbie more submissive than you think she should be or want her to be.

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ORIGINAL: crazypatient

how to masters feel about strong subs?  I find men that think that all women should be totally submissive... but most turely strong men require their women to be strong enouph to be a challenge to dominate...  any man can dominate a weak woman, it really takes a man to dominate a strong woman... any thoughts?

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ORIGINAL: mons

Meatclever greetings

may i ask why did you pick your name

mons/jane

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ORIGINAL: mons

Meatclever greetings

may i ask why did you pick your name
I know my name is very different but yours
is scary oh do forgive me but i have this thing
about knives I am silly but they scare me silly.I
wonder why that is all i have my name i wanted it
to be so different from any other dommes names
It is different so come tell me ( please )

mons/jane

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: mons

Meatclever greetings

may i ask why did you pick your name

There is nothing sinister about it. LOL. I was browsing CM when I decided to register and I happened to be designing a meatcleaver for a client at the time.

Maybe my client was a little sinister but he swore he was a chef. His name was Sweeny Todd I believe.

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

I only want a class 7 submissive with a personal strength measurement of 6 and submissive index of 9.

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ORIGINAL: pgqosk

crazypatient,

I really think you have two separate issues in your question.... how does the "Wanna Be" Dom like his submissive to act... and how does the "Real" Dom like his submissive to act??

Now it isn't great to use super general labels, but sometimes you can to make a point. My point being is that there are Doms out there who either don't want to put the time and effort into a relationship, or don't know how to. Those are the Doms who will more than likely want the very easily bent submissive that is not a strong person in will, and possibly in self worth. Then there are Doms out there who want to take their time with a submissive, get to know the person, get to know their likes, dislikes, wants and needs... learn their temperament, and work to control it as the submissive gives them more trust as they earn it.... those submissives are probably the ones that are happy people in their lives, very strong in personality, happy fun people in general.

But then there is also the strong willed sub that wants control... who really isn't a sub at all in some ways... they are playing a role to get someone to do exactly as they wish... they have learned to use their "submission" as a tool of control. These are people who Top from the bottom. They know they have total control of the situation and person they are with even if they are on the receiving end of the whip, crop or flogger. These are not switches.. that is something else... they are controlling, strong willed submissives who seek out a weak Dom, or a Dom who can be bent to do as asked.

Don't get me wrong, I think any sub always holds onto control in that they can always call their safe word and end the play. The trick is to work to make sure they never want to by staying within the limits of the control they have given over to you, the Dom.  Did that last part makes sense?? LOL

Steven--

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A doormat, male or female, is someone who allows themselves to be abused, used in any manner irregardless if it is a manner they enjoy or not, it is someone who to my mind has very low self esteem.

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ORIGINAL: puella

OTW-isms?

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I'm going to guess Off The Wall but all the accronyms in here are turning to alphabet soup in my brain. 

The point is, in my humble little opinion, to make such a statement without any explanation at all, nullifies and voids such a statement to begin with. 

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think it depends upon the dom...and, of course, upon the sub.  I've found that most doms (at least, the ones I know) say they don't want a doormat, but if I question them, the answer is too often "because that's what I wish".  I understand that that may be the ttue answer some of the time, but I am troubled by the frequency.  I've found that many doms don't want a strong woman or a particularly intelligent one.  Perhaps, I've simply run into the wrong doms..I don't want to judge them all based on a few bad apples.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think it depends upon the dom...and, of course, upon the sub.  I've found that most doms (at least, the ones I know) say they don't want a doormat, but if I question them, the answer is too often "because that's what I wish".  I understand that that may be the ttue answer some of the time, but I am troubled by the frequency.  I've found that many doms don't want a strong woman or a particularly intelligent one.  Perhaps, I've simply run into the wrong doms..I don't want to judge them all based on a few bad apples.

I find that this attitude is that of a busy parent... "Because I said so.." answer to a question... I didn't accept that as a child and I do not like it as an adult.. All thinking people question things, and it is a little lazy to answer "Because I said so".. especially when it is not during a scene.