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Saykiatric -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 7:52:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne

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ORIGINAL: Saykiatric

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ORIGINAL: stef

Aww, did someone bump their lame troll thread because nobody replied then get moderated for it?  That's priceless.

~stef

There you have it moderator lets be even across the board a taunt and an insult......go get him or her.



Once again, do not call out moderators on a thread.  If you have an issue with a post, hit the REPORT button.  And for the record, the only thing you were called was "someone".  We are truly sorry if you take issue with that word, however, it is not a TOS violation.

Mod21


I do not SEE a report button in fact until you just mentioned it I had no IDEA there was even such a thing as a REPORT button..MY issue is not with being called "someone" Which again I did not pay attention to until you mentioned it. I was referring to the "their lame troll thread because nobody replied then get moderated for it?"
Bump??? Shrugs.......I do not control when a MOD gets around to "approving" or  rejecting my post. Here the BIAS is again. You chose to Post my Post clearly you are a masochist as "someone" has to approve it for it even to show. So if it was not you take it up with your fellow Mods. I am now addressing a post to me like I would anyone else. You are welcome. If my post was offensive and I am so so so so so so sorry if it was to truthful their was always the golden mod Emails you could have sent me.




Icarys -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:12:46 AM)

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Funny thing about my personality is that it goes everywhere with me.

Some people are hardwired to do it and some not. I'm not hardwired to do it compulsively, otherwise this place would be a mess of red pen. As the corrections seem to be done to people who I believe deserve mocking and whose opinion I don't care about (usually because they have shown themselves to be a complete asshole over an extended period of time) then my care factor on their reaction and that of others, isn't high either.

It's petty of them not to suck it up and improve their language skills, really.


Sounds like a cop out to me Ebony. You can do whatever it is you decide to do but I think we know better. I especially think you do.

I guess using your logic then: If I choose to mock those who mock others it's okay then. I don't think anyone "deserves" to be mocked..Maybe told about their issues but mocked.. You know this I think.


It reminds me of the old mentality "tell a fat bitch she's fat everyday and she'll finally do something about it" approach. That works right? Most people have shortcomings and I doubt they would react kindly to having it pointed out..I know this for a fact because I've done some pointing out to those that were doing the same thing. I'm the asshole of course lol.

March on.




LadyPact -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:19:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I am not QUTE!


I am a mean ass DOMINATE!

This was a really good example.  Actually the one that I was thinking of more along the grammar lines.  It's just impossible to take someone seriously who thumps their chest about how long they have been in the lifestyle and then proceeds to use the word in the wrong context multiple times in one post.




Icarys -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:21:42 AM)

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I'll own up to it: I've done it here, but usually only when it's so bad that I have trouble reading what they're saying, so usually I'm bitching about paragraphing or lack of punctuation, rather than spelling.

Unless they boast about being a professional writer or something similar, when I consider them fair game for bitchy nitpicking whether their writing as a whole is hard to read or not.


All of this could easily be fixed if most of us just walked away. You have the same freedom to do that as make a mocking comment and I realize it's the way of the world now. Still doesn't make it right to do it and seriously..It's such a little transgression. Why do you care so much that the guy can't spell..Do you get some sort of power trip from it knowing your smarter in that area and is that what you want to be known for..Bitchy and nitpicking?

I understand the next part more because they were obviously lying but they aren't fooling anyone but themselves.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:33:25 AM)

Why, what excuses someone for being rude and nasty about something that may be a weak spot for someone.


Unless you were being sarcastic.
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ORIGINAL: purepleasure

yes




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:34:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

seriously..It's such a little transgression. Why do you care so much that the guy can't spell..Do you get some sort of power trip from it knowing your smarter in that area and is that what you want to be known for..Bitchy and nitpicking?

Like I said, I tend to mention grammar rather than spelling, and only when it's bad enough that I genuinely struggle to work out what they are saying. If it irritates me enough for me to actually say anything then it's probably beyond what I would consider a 'little transgression'.

I find it really funny that it's *you* saying 'is that what you want to be known for?' here, Icarys-you're probably the furthest from the 'I'm only saying this so people will think nice things about me' posting style out of anyone. (That's neither a criticism nor a compliment-it's an observation.) I'm not here to try and present an image of myself as anything other than who I am, and part of me *is* a bitchy nitpicker-a small part, which comes out only when I'm irritated. I like to think I make up for it by being awesome the rest of the time [:D]

People who can't organise their thoughts irritate me. People who can't organise their thoughts when they are talking to *me* irritate me more-I operate on an 'I'll take you seriously if you deserve to be taken seriously' basis, and if someone doesn't think I deserve to be taken seriously enough to structure their thoughts then they may well irritate me enough for me to say something.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:48:37 AM)

Spell check isn't always the end all be all. Spell check has told me several words I want to use, which are correct are wrong. And spell check doesn't always catch everything, and maybe  someone's a poor enough speller that they don't know how to spell it with out spell check.


Yes, you can get up and get a dictionary or look it up, but unless you're super duper mega anal retentive, why?  It's not a school paper, it's not going to get the hell and rath of the gods pulled down on you. Yes, it can be a matter of pride, but the forums people feel more relaxed.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I am the biggest computer twit on the planet.  Even I know how to use spell check.




purepleasure -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:48:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
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It reminds me of the old mentality "tell a fat bitch she's fat everyday and she'll finally do something about it" approach. That works right? Most people have shortcomings and I doubt they would react kindly to having it pointed out..I know this for a fact because I've done some pointing out to those that were doing the same thing. I'm the asshole of course lol.


um... yeah.  she'll prove that she's a bitch and slap the snot outta you.  At least, that's what I would do.

Pure
Prez. of the FBC
Fat Bitch Clique




purepleasure -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:51:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Why, what excuses someone for being rude and nasty about something that may be a weak spot for someone.


Unless you were being sarcastic.
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ORIGINAL: purepleasure

yes


I was being sarcastic.  Most of my posts in P&ORS are.  The rest are pretty much to irritate the trolls.




EbonyWood -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 11:54:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Funny thing about my personality is that it goes everywhere with me.

Some people are hardwired to do it and some not. I'm not hardwired to do it compulsively, otherwise this place would be a mess of red pen. As the corrections seem to be done to people who I believe deserve mocking and whose opinion I don't care about (usually because they have shown themselves to be a complete asshole over an extended period of time) then my care factor on their reaction and that of others, isn't high either.

It's petty of them not to suck it up and improve their language skills, really.


Sounds like a cop out to me Ebony. You can do whatever it is you decide to do but I think we know better. I especially think you do.

I guess using your logic then: If I choose to mock those who mock others it's okay then. I don't think anyone "deserves" to be mocked..Maybe told about their issues but mocked.. You know this I think.




No, I think we disagree. You can make your choice the mock the mocker too.
 
Difference is that I'm NOT telling you that you can't. We make choices all the time about what factors lead us to treat people in certain ways. I can't control yours, and you can't control mine.
 
I'm just not that invested in treating someone like this OP like Mother Theresa when they have spent years being an annoying clown here. They are just symbols on a computer screen and 2 minutes later they are responded to, or not, and done. This is the most time I've ever spent talking about said responses. Although the whole spelling/treatment of assholes debate does seem to occur with monotonous regularity.
 
And FWIW, your example of 'told about their issues' could seem exactly like mocking in someone else's eyes.




LadyPact -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:00:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Spell check isn't always the end all be all. Spell check has told me several words I want to use, which are correct are wrong. And spell check doesn't always catch everything, and maybe  someone's a poor enough speller that they don't know how to spell it with out spell check.


Yes, you can get up and get a dictionary or look it up, but unless you're super duper mega anal retentive, why?  It's not a school paper, it's not going to get the hell and rath of the gods pulled down on you. Yes, it can be a matter of pride, but the forums people feel more relaxed.

While you may be correct regarding the use of grammar, spell check will catch any word that is spelled incorrectly.  It will also flag for abbreviations that are commonly used for things like wiitwd, unless you have specifically set it to accept that as a word.  What it won't catch are common mistakes, such as the appropriate use for words such as "there", "their", and "they're".  Something I'm going to be a lot more lenient if someone is working from a second language than someone who is using their native language.

The above example is one that I have seen a number of folks have on their pet peeve list, so that was the one that I used.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:39:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: purepleasure

Pure
Prez. of the FBC
Fat Bitch Clique


Can I join your clique, Pure? I find that being a member of as many cliques as possible, makes me more powerful and twue.




purepleasure -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:41:43 PM)

of course you can Red.

But first, ya gotta be fat.  Being a bitch is optional.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:42:29 PM)

I got both. Can I join? [;)]




VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:46:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Saykiatric

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ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne

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ORIGINAL: Saykiatric

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ORIGINAL: stef

Aww, did someone bump their lame troll thread because nobody replied then get moderated for it?  That's priceless.

~stef

There you have it moderator lets be even across the board a taunt and an insult......go get him or her.



Once again, do not call out moderators on a thread.  If you have an issue with a post, hit the REPORT button.  And for the record, the only thing you were called was "someone".  We are truly sorry if you take issue with that word, however, it is not a TOS violation.

Mod21


I do not SEE a report button in fact until you just mentioned it I had no IDEA there was even such a thing as a REPORT button..MY issue is not with being called "someone" Which again I did not pay attention to until you mentioned it. I was referring to the "their lame troll thread because nobody replied then get moderated for it?"
Bump??? Shrugs.......I do not control when a MOD gets around to "approving" or  rejecting my post. Here the BIAS is again. You chose to Post my Post clearly you are a masochist as "someone" has to approve it for it even to show. So if it was not you take it up with your fellow Mods. I am now addressing a post to me like I would anyone else. You are welcome. If my post was offensive and I am so so so so so so sorry if it was to truthful their was always the golden mod Emails you could have sent me.




That someone that was the masochist in this case was Me...and unfortunately we have to deal with users that are on time out due to them not following rules, not only does the disciplinary action affect the person that can't follow rules, but it also robs time of those that have to oversee it as a group. Now I approved these posts hours after you made them, instead of the normal 48-72 hour window, because THAT is the customer service that people under moderation get. **Scratches head...I'm confused...are you upset that I approved them more quickly? Or not? Or what?**




Daddysredhead -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:49:56 PM)

VAA, you can't please some people. This is like dealing with a younger set of Things who say, "I don't wanna be grounded!!!"




switch2please -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 12:53:43 PM)

I would only insult someone if their less-than-perfect spelling and grammar contradicted an otherwise holier-than-thou attitude.
If I went over to someone else's house, I really don't care how often they scrub the toilet, as long as they don't try to claim their shit smells like roses.
Same thing.
Personally I have very mild OCD of the nitpicky-bitch variety, but it's selective. I have higher standards for myself than anyone else. This doesn't mean I don't have standards for who I communicate with but as long as I can understand them, simple errors are not an issue.




switch2please -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 1:00:27 PM)

I don't use spellcheck, btw. I'm just a freak who reads too much.




LadyPact -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 1:05:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
That someone that was the masochist in this case was Me...and unfortunately we have to deal with users that are on time out due to them not following rules, not only does the disciplinary action affect the person that can't follow rules, but it also robs time of those that have to oversee it as a group. Now I approved these posts hours after you made them, instead of the normal 48-72 hour window, because THAT is the customer service that people under moderation get. **Scratches head...I'm confused...are you upset that I approved them more quickly? Or not? Or what?**

It might also be pointed out that someone on time out status could potentially expedite the process by avoiding the behavior that got them moderated in the first place. 

Let's say that someone gets to the point that their comments have to be reviewed because they have repeatedly made inflammatory comments toward other users.  If that person proceeds to create seven new threads that repeat the behavior, that means that seven more items have to be reviewed.  That's over and above the current threads that are already in progress.  The person who is on moderation is actually extending the amount of time that it takes to review threads simply based on increased volume.  Therefore, it's going to take longer.

One other point.  Nobody on CM is a customer.  You are a guest.

I'm not a Mod.  Just attempting to give input that, in My opinion, boils down to common sense.




switch2please -> RE: Is it alright to insult someone for spelling of grammatical error and if not why... (8/18/2010 1:10:04 PM)

Agreed. Whether for my actions or my use of language, I expect to be held accountable for my mistakes.




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