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DarkSteven -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 7:06:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dejablue1

Of course it is and deliberately so. I had a previous profile on here for 8 years and so I am well aware of what does and does not belong in a profile. With that being said, this profile is merely a means to a personal end as this website is bullshit and the people on it are full of bullshit as well. Why have a fully completed profile that will serve no purpose beyond drawing out the scam artists and money whores? Months to find a good match, huh? No, even that statement is bullshit and you know it. Years can go by and in some cases even a decade or more to find a good match. So hence, what is the point in bothering to even try unless you are prepared to sacrifice a large portion of your life in doing so?


What personal end do you mean? All I know is that you're fishing with a hook with no bait on it, and complaining that you're not catching the fish you want.

Dunno about the "months" being bullshit.  It has been a few years for me, but I have found women here.  They just weren't right for me after we tried.  I've known others who made connections more quickly, so I decided to say "months".

I like learning about people.  I like flirting and I like dating, especially when the dating comes D/s flavored.  I would never call it "sacrifice".






BaltrosScottie -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 8:57:18 AM)

I look for an ability to write a complete sentence. I also look for a note that reflects that they have a brain, they use it and that the note they are sending me is not a cut and paste or a throw away line like "are you into {insert proclivity}". BUt then those notes never have your basic manners of Hello, nice to meet you my name is in them so they are easy to toss...

I actually ignore photo's for the most part as in this cyber world there is no way to verify that the pics are the truth. I usually go for those without pics as they have a better understanding of the negative side of the cyber world.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 10:09:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I like flirting

[deadpan]
You do? I'd never have guessed-you always seem so...cold, when you talk to women...
[/deadpan]
...
BWAHAHAHAHA




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 10:38:13 AM)

...nevermind




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 10:51:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dejablue1

Of course it is and deliberately so. I had a previous profile on here for 8 years and so I am well aware of what does and does not belong in a profile. With that being said, this profile is merely a means to a personal end as this website is bullshit and the people on it are full of bullshit as well. Why have a fully completed profile that will serve no purpose beyond drawing out the scam artists and money whores? Months to find a good match, huh? No, even that statement is bullshit and you know it. Years can go by and in some cases even a decade or more to find a good match. So hence, what is the point in bothering to even try unless you are prepared to sacrifice a large portion of your life in doing so?


You know, I've spent -years- on this site, but -every- individual that I've gotten actively involved with in those years has been a person I've spent -time- with and gotten to know OFF the computer. Yes, the profile is important. It is an opportunity to see, when something sparks your interest, whether or not -other- aspects of that person are compatible. IMO, a profile isn't just a "put it up and sit back and wait for some miracle to happen and the perfect person to contact me out of the blue" kind of thing.

Most of the time that I spend here I spend on the boards. I don't go in the chat rooms at all, and I only go to the other side to check my mail. If people want to get to know me, they can see how I respond to situations here, and they'll have a pretty good picture of the kind of person I am. In the same way, I can get to know a -lot- about people by the way they respond to situations posted here, too.

Perhaps, rather than whining about all of the fakers and losers, you should find your niche and just worry about getting to know PEOPLE, rather than finding Princess Charming to sweep you off your feet.

Calla




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 10:54:43 AM)

I offer bonus points to Dejablue for having a profile on this site for eight years when the site has only been in existence for six. [:)]
~~

I am one of those oddball doms who actually WRITES to men. Of course, I write to men of any orientation, because I am interested in making FRIENDS. My homepage feed is for Michigan men, 30-55, within a hundred miles of me. I get to see all sorts of journals, profiles, photos, etc. I laugh a LOT. I hide a lot MORE. Still and all, if someone has a fabulous picture, and it pops up on my page, I write and tell them "Dang, you look fantastic!" Never fails to elicit a smile. (Honestly, I don't think men get complimented very much. I have FLOORED doms in public dungeons...) I comment on journals, ask questions, start conversations. Sometimes I can feel the "WTF?" on the other end, sometimes great convos start. Such is the internet.

In answer to the question: I will SPEAK to most anyone who is polite. I talk to strangers. That does not mean that I will encourage them to think that they are a potential partner for me, it means that I will CONVERSE. New? I offer linkage to local resources. Interested in something specific? I try to steer them to the right group. If I offer advice and it's sneered at, I wish them well somewhere else. I have intelligent friends who cannot write properly to save their souls, or who only communicate in one-line mails. I was SHOCKED at one man who is totally charming and fluent in person---I was convinced he was a sweet bore based on his mails! (of course, the opposite can also be true. [&o])

Now send me monies! [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif] (I never get tired of that joke!!)




SthrnCom4t -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:03:27 AM)

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quote:
ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
quote:

Come with a genuine attitude of wanting to enjoy yourself and avoid complaining. Get to know some of the posters (which include some damn good women who happen to be Dommes). And see if things start changing for the better.

And be patient.  It takes months, usually, to find a good match.  But as long as you're enjoying it...

dejablue1 said:

Of course it is and deliberately so. I had a previous profile on here for 8 years and so I am well aware of what does and does not belong in a profile. With that being said, this profile is merely a means to a personal end as this website is bullshit and the people on it are full of bullshit as well. Why have a fully completed profile that will serve no purpose beyond drawing out the scam artists and money whores? Months to find a good match, huh? No, even that statement is bullshit and you know it. Years can go by and in some cases even a decade or more to find a good match. So hence, what is the point in bothering to even try unless you are prepared to sacrifice a large portion of your life in doing so?
quote:

ORIGINAL: dejablue1

dejablue and Steven,

Thanks for giving me a great side-by-side comparison as attitude is a huge issue for me. It tells me how the person views the world and deals with his/her/hir environment. It tells me about their ability to evolve from an emotional intelligence standpoint. Age is just a number, and I no longer assume that older equals more mature.

Those who are close to me share my positive outlook on life, and have evolved past being the victim. It's important I can have someone who creates good energy, not just settle in a low vibrational sucking pattern. I don't do energy vampires.

To answer the original question OP - I agree with the other posters on the previous pages about communication skills and not sending me a generic form letter. Also about getting out of this process, what you put in. Like attracts like. :)





SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:09:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I will SPEAK to most anyone who is polite. I talk to strangers. That does not mean that I will encourage them to think that they are a potential partner for me, it means that I will CONVERSE.


This.

Of the five people I've met on this site and subsequently played with and/or dated, each and every one of them commented on something I said in my profile, journal, or on the boards. All of them impressed me with their intelligence and wit.

I guess it's safe to say courtesy is what I require before I'll speak with someone. Intelligence and wit are the qualities I require if the conversation is going to continue past the first couple of emails.





sexyred1 -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:11:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I offer bonus points to Dejablue for having a profile on this site for eight years when the site has only been in existence for six. [:)]
~~

I am one of those oddball doms who actually WRITES to men. Of course, I write to men of any orientation, because I am interested in making FRIENDS. My homepage feed is for Michigan men, 30-55, within a hundred miles of me. I get to see all sorts of journals, profiles, photos, etc. I laugh a LOT. I hide a lot MORE. Still and all, if someone has a fabulous picture, and it pops up on my page, I write and tell them "Dang, you look fantastic!" Never fails to elicit a smile. (Honestly, I don't think men get complimented very much. I have FLOORED doms in public dungeons...) I comment on journals, ask questions, start conversations. Sometimes I can feel the "WTF?" on the other end, sometimes great convos start. Such is the internet.

In answer to the question: I will SPEAK to most anyone who is polite. I talk to strangers. That does not mean that I will encourage them to think that they are a potential partner for me, it means that I will CONVERSE. New? I offer linkage to local resources. Interested in something specific? I try to steer them to the right group. If I offer advice and it's sneered at, I wish them well somewhere else. I have intelligent friends who cannot write properly to save their souls, or who only communicate in one-line mails. I was SHOCKED at one man who is totally charming and fluent in person---I was convinced he was a sweet bore based on his mails! (of course, the opposite can also be true. [&o])

Now send me monies! [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif] (I never get tired of that joke!!)


I heart LadyHibiscus big time. [sm=cute.gif]




DarkSteven -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:17:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I like flirting

[deadpan]
You do? I'd never have guessed-you always seem so...cold, when you talk to women...
[/deadpan]



It's you wimmins' responsibility to warm me up.  Get going.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:38:44 AM)

I heart Sexyred. That's why we're engaged in GayMarriageLand!! VelvetBuddy will do the ceremony. [:D]

~~FantasizerHib~~





SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:45:45 AM)

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to unite Hibby and her sexy redhead in the bondage...er...bonds of matrimony....




sexyred1 -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 11:49:01 AM)

Wait!! We did not get to register at Extreme Restraints...I mean Bloomies and Tiffany's yet!!!




VaguelyCurious -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 12:47:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

It's you wimmins' responsibility to warm me up.  Get going.

As you wish:

Bend over!

*gentle thwack*
*gentle thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*
*slightly harder thwack*

How's that for a warmup? Warm enough yet? Good.

*THWACK*




Twoshoes -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 1:00:46 PM)

DarkSteven, you should flirt with guys too. (Be prepared to have to fend some of them off however!)

quote:

ORIGINAL:LadyHibiscus
Honestly, I don't think men get complimented very much. I have FLOORED doms in public dungeons.


Haha! This has happened to me also. I remember every single time a young lady has managed to completely make me freeze and blush so far (~ 6 times). The strange part is I could have been quite comfortably chatting away right before that. Nothing like abit of shock-and-awe, eh? And my lame reaction has always been percieved with amusement and giggling - must somehow be linked with a slightly sadistic desire to toy with me.

P.S. I totally admit to doing this too, which is why I'm offering DarkSteven the advice to flirt with guys. The reactions can be so priceless.




LadyPact -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 1:37:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dejablue1


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: dejablue1

re: Op's first posting

Generally speaking from experience, most mistresses are seeking a very deep wallet and a very large checking account. Everything else appears secondary. It does not matter how much a person sacrifices, gains skills, pursues education, or betters themselves. None of that matters. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is how much the poor bastard is bringing in and willing to give.


Fella, I just took a look at your profile.

It is absolutely blank.  Not one single word about you, what you want in a Domme, what you offer her.

With that, you have eliminated every single one of the true lifestyle Dommes from considering you.  You're 55 years old and have 55 years of experience, desires, discoveries to share.  And you didn't. The Dommes will not care what the reasons are for you not saying anything about yourself - they'll simply ignore you.

The pro Dommes and scam artists of course will behave exactly like you said.

Tell you what.  Fill out your profile, and come back and post more on the forums.  Come with a genuine attitude of wanting to enjoy yourself and avoid complaining.  Get to know some of the posters (which include some damn good women who happen to be Dommes).  And see if things start changing for the better.

And be patient.  It takes months, usually, to find a good match.  But as long as you're enjoying it...



Of course it is and deliberately so. I had a previous profile on here for 8 years and so I am well aware of what does and does not belong in a profile. With that being said, this profile is merely a means to a personal end as this website is bullshit and the people on it are full of bullshit as well. Why have a fully completed profile that will serve no purpose beyond drawing out the scam artists and money whores? Months to find a good match, huh? No, even that statement is bullshit and you know it. Years can go by and in some cases even a decade or more to find a good match. So hence, what is the point in bothering to even try unless you are prepared to sacrifice a large portion of your life in doing so?

I've said this before to someone making these statements on the forums.  You sound like the proverbial wolf who couldn't reach the grapes, so he convinced himself that they were sour.

Like it or not, what Steven told you was true, in My opinion.  Not just about filling out the profile, but also about participation in the forums.  There are Dominant women on these boards that would be all over certain submissive males if they were local to them.  It doesn't have a thing to do with what is in their wallets.  It has to do with their personalities and how much we've come to appreciate them as people.  They don't have a bit of trouble getting Dominant women to respond to them via email.  Even Me, who willingly said that I don't respond to everyone.

Believe it or not, I happen to think that Steven does a darn good job at giving advice to other males out there regardless of their orientation.  When a Dominant man comes along to tell you what we Dominant women seem to keep saying about this subject over and over through the years, you might want to consider appreciating the fact that he is trying to be helpful.  I don't think he deserved the negative way that you chose to respond.

Steven, we really do appreciate you coming to give your two cents.  [:)]




Twoshoes -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 2:19:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Steven, we really do appreciate you coming to give your two cents.  [:)]


I even called him 'wise' in another thread.

Alot of these threads in the mistress section are more about common sense than being submissive...




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/22/2010 5:08:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Twoshoes


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Steven, we really do appreciate you coming to give your two cents.  [:)]


I even called him 'wise' in another thread.

Alot of these threads in the mistress section are more about common sense than being submissive...



EEEEH! Don't give away our SEEEEEKRITS!!!! [8D]




porcelaine -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/23/2010 7:25:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

In answer to the question: I will SPEAK to most anyone who is polite. I talk to strangers. That does not mean that I will encourage them to think that they are a potential partner for me, it means that I will CONVERSE.


This.

And I disagree with the comments concerning profiles. An individual that's conversant with some measure of common sense can bode well without one. I've done so and I'm aware of others that aren't wanting for email either. In the end it comes down to your presentation and an ability to connect with the other person.

~porcelaine




MsMillgrove -> RE: What do you require before you even speak with a sub? (8/23/2010 8:38:21 AM)

Am I the only person who looked at the OP's profile photo? or has everyone who viewed it somehow missed the COLLAR and the LEASH?

What Domme poses in a collar and leash?

Sorry but I'm going to have to revoke her domme card.




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