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BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 2:21:44 AM   
SpiritedRadiance


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Status: offline 		I've noticed with a lot of my dealings as well as a lot of reading that their seems to be a general ageism regarding those who practice bdsm.

I have now began to wonder why exactly this occurs. We have a fair amount of TNG groups that are focused more on younger age groups, but I often see on the boards and am often told in real life that my age is a problem. It isnt just from people in the community but I have to wonder why others feel the need to put others down simply regarding age. I often see or hear when your my age you'll know, or well 21 year olds think they know it all. If such is bothersome why does the older crowd feel the need to be what they say they dislike. Isn't saying you'll know better when your my age implying that they know it all as well? If one cant know it all at 21 or 50 or even 100, how does implying that because of your age you know whats best for everyone at all productive or anything other then what you complain about with the younger generation?

If one at the ripe age of 18 to around 22 is so clueless as some have put I have the following questions to ask:

  • If you could change the age of majority what would you change it to?
  • If 18 is not an age where one is considered and adult and able to make adult decisions, what is this magical age that one has to reach before they are an "adult"?
  • What do you consider an adult to be?
  • What significant life experience does one need to have before they reach "adulthood"?
  • And finally, Why do you feel the need to degrade or put others down because of something they have no control over such as age?

I have come to realize and had at a very young age, I tend to be the exception rather then the rule so my answers are based on that.

I would not change the age of majority, I would keep it the same. I do not think that age has really anything to do with being an adult. and its more based on life experiences, most of them more harsher then others.

I consider an adult someone who is able to make mostly rational decisions, and is responsible for him or herself. Someone who works hard, maintains their life and keeps things in balance. One who is able to make the tough calls and be okay with the decisions made.

I think others feel the need to degrade because of a sense of regret on their behalf, I mean if you could do it all again would you change things? I might only be 21 but I would change so much about my life it isn't even funny. However I have come to accept I wouldn't be the person I am today with out the life Ive lead.


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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 3:16:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I plead guilty, and I have actually told you and MissA that I consider you to be much more mature than your tender years would indicate.

I think that the major maturing agent is the world of work.  That forces a person to learn to get along with others, and to be responsible to another person.  Then again, I've seen some posters here (not the regulars) in their 50s and 60s who seem immature.

To me, immaturity manifests itself as a demand to have everything the poster's way, and to expect the world to meet his (usually) or her (occasionally) needs.

The age of adulthood is obviously very individual specific but I have found that typically it is somewhere between 25 and 30.


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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 3:50:28 AM   
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What you are getting is the sheer fact that we who are older do see things from a different perspective. Or do you claim that people ten years younger than you are as knowledgeable and capable as you are?

Just as you know a lot more now than you did ten years ago, expect that you will feel that way again in another ten years compared to how you feel now.


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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:00:48 AM   
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If one at the ripe age of 18 to around 22 is so clueless as some have put I have the following questions to ask:

  • If you could change the age of majority what would you change it to?

    The age of majority in my state is 18. Does that mean a person of that age has the level of maturity required to be a functioning member of society? It depends on the person and their experiences up to that point. I know some 18-22 year olds who have their act more together than some 50+ year olds. I see no reason to change the legal age of majority.


  • If 18 is not an age where one is considered and adult and able to make adult decisions, what is this magical age that one has to reach before they are an "adult"?

    See above answer.

  • What do you consider an adult to be?

    It comes down to emotional/intellectual maturity level for me, not the age of a person.


  • What significant life experience does one need to have before they reach "adulthood"?

    Each person processes life experiences in a different way. What aided my early emotional maturity may not affect someone else the same way. I've had the good fortune to cross paths with many young, 24 and under, people who haven't experienced any major challenges or life hurdles and yet still are wise beyond their years.

  • And finally, Why do you feel the need to degrade or put others down because of something they have no control over such as age?


Age is a number...maturity is what counts. In regards to WIITWD, if an 18+ person has the practical experience to back up their claim of a certain level of emotional/intellectual maturity then there's no problem.
I have noticed an upswing in interest of all things related to BDSM with a much younger crowd. Maybe it's the availability of the internet and sites like CM that have helped this early interest. This seems to be true for a host of other lifestyle choices.


Edited to add: Putting someone down because of their age is a sign of immaturity, imo. Calling attention to their lack of maturity regardless of their age, or in spite of, is a different story.




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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:12:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Des: its actually a form of age descrimination basing sterotype on ones age to my understanding.

I do not discredit that I will know more in 10 years, my question is that those that believe they know more, why must they discredit someone else because of age. While time gives the added advantage of extra learning its hypocritical to say all 21 year olds think they know it all and never listen when they do the same on themselves.

The comments while they don't apply to me at times can be frustrating because your basing your life on another person. Some find the life very early on, some don't until later. I know for a fact I'm more together then most I'm 21 and have the ability to have not one but three careers.

I've held down a full time job at times two since I was 16. I've had a lot of eyeopening experiences. I don't mean or intend to come across as whining when I say why shouldn't that matter more then a date?

If you constantly had someone say of you don't know crap your such ans such an age and I know better would it be different?

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:21:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I struggle with threads like this, because I have rarely felt discriminated against on this site. A handful of people have made reference to my age in a negative way, and most of those people were trolls.

I find that if you take other people seriously, and expect to be taken seriously yourself, then you generally get taken seriously.

If anything, I have more problems at real life kink events because I look even younger than I am (or at least I did until I cut my hair short).

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:35:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your post was so well written that I just had to leave a comment. 
 
Whenever I'm caught saying that I'm an old lady it isn't to put down anyone young, it's because so much has happened in my life that at this time in my life I feel kinda old.  In a year or two I will probably be my puddle stomping self again.
 
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It isnt just from people in the community but I have to wonder why others feel the need to put others down simply regarding age. I often see or hear when your my age you'll know, or well 21 year olds think they know it all. If such is bothersome why does the older crowd feel the need to be what they say they dislike.

Good point.  I try not to be a know it all, but...on some things, yes, I almost do.   Each of us has an expertise on something, or some things, because we have lived with it for so long.  I try not to be condescending but sometimes I slip and my foot goes into my mouth. 
 
When I took a Trailways bus from WV to CA when I had barely turned 17, I became an adult.  I provided for myself, worked full time at a minimum wage job I hated and payed my rent like everyone else...but...looking back, I don't think I really grew up all the way until I was 22 or 23.  I didn't really begin to like the person I was becoming until I was 25+.  I had a lot of issues to work through. 
 
I agree with what Steven said. 
 
Spirited, where I live, I see that most of the young adults keep their immaturity for much longer than they used to.  When I was 11, I had to watch three younger kids often, and two were in diapers.  Years ago, kids could get jobs without having to pay taxes and get all kinds of permits (nowadays, their parents would be penalized in one way or another).  Most of the kids wander around all day long with no adult supervision as their parents are both working and there is no babysitter.  We see the difference in our neighborhood...and for the first time in my life I have to be wary of teens and people in their early twenties.  We own property and have beer bottles tossed onto our lawns, hear loud music for half the night, have neighbor kids just decide that our yard is their playground (and they get teed off and slash your tires or break out windows if they are politely asked to leave). 
 
Yes, there can be an unjustified wariness of young people until their maturity makes me respect them and welcome their company.  Immaturity grates on my nerves, no matter what the age...I'm only human.
 
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    • If you could change the age of majority what would you change it to?
    • If 18 is not an age where one is considered and adult and able to make adult decisions, what is this magical age that one has to reach before they are an "adult"?
    • What do you consider an adult to be?
    • What significant life experience does one need to have before they reach "adulthood"?
    • And finally, Why do you feel the need to degrade or put others down because of something they have no control over such as age?

I see things as:  child, then young adult, then mature adult.  Some people need to leave home to improve their living conditions, so I wouldn't want to force anyone to stay at home if they wanted to leave...but on the other hand, I miss adulthood being at 21.  I know, the boys who went to the Vietnam war said if they had to die for their country at age 18, then they should be able to drink beer and vote. :)  But within some families things changed.  Some parents count the days when their child is grown up, 18 years old, and can leave the nest.  I prefer that kids stay at home till 21 (unless they are unbearable to live with), so they can attend college while also being at home, learn skills in a trade school, or even work and save up money for a car or a down payment on a house.  My sister and I broke the "get them out of the house at 18" mold and both of us have our kids living with us still.  My niece is a college graduate and is 24.  This probably has nothing to do with what you are talking about though...except that if either my sister and I were "putting our kids down" every day, the kids would be unhappy and would move out...and maybe never talk to us again except on holidays.
 
It's hard being young.  I know; I felt young once and went through all that you are going through.  Just smile at us old folks and cut us some slack...sometimes generation gaps really do exist...and can be bridged only by patience, tolerance, and understanding on both sides. 
 
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And finally, Why do you feel the need to degrade or put others down because of something they have no control over such as age?

The only time I am guilty of this is when I catch someone in an amazing act of selfish immaturity.  It's not really the age, but how a person behaves.  At least with youth, we can hope they will outgrow it and become more considerate of others.  I, too, have no control over age.  One of you youngsters  might want to call me an "old person" and there's nothing I can do about it.  Degradation and put downs?  Just wait till you have stretch marks from having babies, have to wear thick glasses, get wrinkles or age spots...have your breasts sag.  It ain't that rosy on this side of the fence.
 
For every person who acts like an asshat, you will likely meet a dozen more who are nice and friendly.  You are where you need to be right now...and I wish you a happy journey through life. 
 
Long time ago, when I was 19, I worked for an "old" woman who put me down all the time...and then I realized that she envied me my youth.  Her life was winding down while mine was just beginning.  I was gentle with her and chose not to hurt her more by standing up for myself.  My life was my own life, and nothing her words could say would change anything.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:38:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vc: its not specific personal references its more like generalized statements, like on threads such as flakey 19yo slave and the would you introduce your sone/daughter threads that sparked the questions.

The 18 to 22 aren't emotionally mature enough for the life or similar statements like she's 19 what do you expect comments that have fueled my wonderings.


I also have to add that knowledge goes both ways generationally my generation knows typically more about electronics and the like because we were raised on them from baby up. Where as someone in their 40s had to pick it up at a different stage. So being 40 or 50 doesn't mean all the time you have had X number of years that's means superior.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 4:41:33 AM   
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Ageism would be refusing you legal rights because of your age such as housing.



Ageism, like racism, isn't just about attempting to limit a person's legal rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 5:05:20 AM   
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In answer to your questions.

I wouldn't change the age of majority.
Some people behave like adults by the time they are 18, others behave like children when they are in their 50s. Every individual is different.
An adult is someone who behaves like one.
Experience in what? some people start sexually experimenting with their partner long before 18 and by 19 could have a wealth of experience. Some men may not start experimenting in this world until a much later age, often after a failed marriage and 2.5 children!
I never put down over age, though I know some people do. I started a topic on just this about a year ago.
I think the reason people put down the young ones is, they feel threatened. You only have to go to clubs in London to see younger guys now coming out onto the scene. Six or seven years ago there were a lot of young women but most of the men were much older, but as the fetish scene has grown, so has the younger male BDSM crowd.
Young sub women are starting to look at guys more their own age and this is obviously going to disgruntle some of the older guys. Mouthing off about experience is in my opinion, just a ploy to capture the younger females attention!

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 5:11:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh

To quote George Orwell... "Each generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it."





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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 5:30:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey there,

In the uk the age of "consent" is 16, the age of majority 18.

I wouldn't change either.

I've no doubt that there are some people younger than 16 with the maturity, wisdom, etc to have sex, but I think 16 is a pretty good stopping point (and even if I didn't think it was a good stopping point, I'd be risking jail time if I chose to ignore it, no matter how worldly the minor). I've also met people in their 20's who (in my very subjective and non-qualified opinion) aren't mature or wise enough to have sex...

I would point out though that when you say - 
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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance
I do not think that age has really anything to do with being an adult.


You're right to add - ultimately someone's level of maturity is more about life experience, but there's a pretty strong general correlation between age and life experience.

And yes, some people are lucky (or unlucky as the case may be) to gain 30years' worth of life experience in 16 - but I do think it's fair (as a general rule) to say that people in their 20's are generally more mature than people in their teens.

So, yeah - if a 19 year old starts ranting on the boards about how they know all there is to know about Domliness, I'm inclined to think (and occasionally reply) "fuck off you silly little boy/girl". Although, I'd say that a 19 year old's willingness to make such claims is pretty much proof of their immaturity - just as a 40 year old's willingness to make the same claims is also proof of their immaturity (I should also point out that when I was 19 I was absolutely one of those self-certain silly little boys).

On the other hand, I'll occasionally follow someone on the boards and take a look at their profile and be surprised to see that they're in their early 20's - Much as I was just now when I snooped your profile. In that event wouldn't hold their age against them for a second.

I do filter by age, which isn't quite as strong as "discriminating" - I won't pay much attention to profiles of people in their early 20's, but if I bump into someone who is younger than my normal range I wouldn't dismiss them either.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 5:56:10 AM   
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Des: its actually a form of age descrimination basing sterotype on ones age to my understanding.

I do not discredit that I will know more in 10 years, my question is that those that believe they know more, why must they discredit someone else because of age. While time gives the added advantage of extra learning its hypocritical to say all 21 year olds think they know it all and never listen when they do the same on themselves.

The comments while they don't apply to me at times can be frustrating because your basing your life on another person. Some find the life very early on, some don't until later. I know for a fact I'm more together then most I'm 21 and have the ability to have not one but three careers.

I've held down a full time job at times two since I was 16. I've had a lot of eyeopening experiences. I don't mean or intend to come across as whining when I say why shouldn't that matter more then a date?

If you constantly had someone say of you don't know crap your such ans such an age and I know better would it be different?


Would you be less concerned by these general comments if they were qualified, e.g. I know I thought I had a much better grasp on the world from 18-22 than I actually did, and looking back I realize I didn't know my head from a hole in the ground when it came to some things. I ask, not because I tend to make general statements about the young (I don't think I do), but because when I read others making those statements I always assume they are speaking from personal experience. They're not attacking you or young people in general, they're just sharing their perspective.

I confess I sort of rolled my eyes at the OP, because really, this is sort of a "beginner at life" train of thought. It's not that you're not an adult, or that you're lacking maturity across the board. It's more like... think of life as a series of novels and you just finished the first one. Due to your intellectual sophistication you may have a much richer understanding of that first book than someone who's done a more shallow read of the entire series. But you're still only working from the first book. All sorts of fresh plots and characters are set to come. Given the surplus of available information these days, it's easy enough to locate some Cliffs Notes that give you a sense of what to come, but that isn't the same thing as the understanding you'll have when you've taken the time to actually read the novels.  And a lot of the understanding that comes with age is realizing just how little you know.

"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." Socrates said that over 2300 years ago. I first read that about 20 years ago. It made sense when I first read it. I thought I got it then. But it makes more and more sense every day.With age, I've discovered new layers of it to "get." That's just how this works.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 6:08:00 AM   
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Ageism would be refusing you legal rights because of your age such as housing.



Ageism, like racism, isn't just about attempting to limit a person's legal rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism

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Ageism was a term coined to deal with discrimination against the old. Given the etymology, I can see why people want to attach all other sorts of age related concerns under that umbrella but I think they probably need to get their own terms otherwise it's a mess. For example, using the term "ageism" to discuss a bunch of strangers on the internet who have refused to validate the sexual choices of a teenager. Compared to: we live in a country where recent unemployment trends have disproportionately affected older workers and due to a combination of systemic bias and lack of jobs, it is likely that a significant number of those older workers will not be able to find full time employment that utilizes and compensates their skills fairly. One of these things is more important than the other. But far be it from me to accuse the youthful adopter of "ageism" to describe the horrific unfairness of being denied internet validation as lacking perspective or maturity.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 6:37:34 AM   
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I confess I sort of rolled my eyes at the OP, because really, this is sort of a "beginner at life" train of thought. It's not that you're not an adult, or that you're lacking maturity across the board. It's more like... think of life as a series of novels and you just finished the first one. Due to your intellectual sophistication you may have a much richer understanding of that first book than someone who's done a more shallow read of the entire series. But you're still only working from the first book.


Or Ive finished the third or fourth, and am sitting back and wondering how age makes ones opinion more or less valid. Why is a 40 year olds opinion more valid to many then a 21 year olds? Does ones aging mean automatically they know everything from here on out?

Many people in their 30s and 40s are just starting to deal with the loss of a parent, of dear loved ones, of taking care of elderly parents. Ive been doing as such when I was 15.

Sadly I am simply a little tired of being told or reading often in some times more tactful ways "you dont know anything little girl simply because you have only been alive for so many years".



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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 7:02:04 AM   
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I confess I sort of rolled my eyes at the OP, because really, this is sort of a "beginner at life" train of thought. It's not that you're not an adult, or that you're lacking maturity across the board. It's more like... think of life as a series of novels and you just finished the first one. Due to your intellectual sophistication you may have a much richer understanding of that first book than someone who's done a more shallow read of the entire series. But you're still only working from the first book.


Or Ive finished the third or fourth, and am sitting back and wondering how age makes ones opinion more or less valid. Why is a 40 year olds opinion more valid to many then a 21 year olds? Does ones aging mean automatically they know everything from here on out?

Many people in their 30s and 40s are just starting to deal with the loss of a parent, of dear loved ones, of taking care of elderly parents. Ive been doing as such when I was 15.

Sadly I am simply a little tired of being told or reading often in some times more tactful ways "you dont know anything little girl simply because you have only been alive for so many years".





I don't think being an adult hinges upon exact age.

What does matter is the type of situations and life events that happen and how they are dealt with. Not so much death and dying, but changes in careers, finances, kids, and most importantly, major health issues.

I find that people who are of a certain age who have battled the above situations do so with much more grace and maturity than much younger people, myself included.

I most certainly did not handle the above very well when I was 25 as I do now.

I was also never bothered when older people gave me advice when I was younger because I knew I had more time than they did to fix things.

That may be why older people say you have not lived yet when someone young complains about something.

Oh, and wait OP, you will have reverse ageism as you get older regarding job hunting. So the tables will turn eventually.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 7:18:33 AM   
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I confess I sort of rolled my eyes at the OP, because really, this is sort of a "beginner at life" train of thought. It's not that you're not an adult, or that you're lacking maturity across the board. It's more like... think of life as a series of novels and you just finished the first one. Due to your intellectual sophistication you may have a much richer understanding of that first book than someone who's done a more shallow read of the entire series. But you're still only working from the first book.


Or Ive finished the third or fourth, and am sitting back and wondering how age makes ones opinion more or less valid. Why is a 40 year olds opinion more valid to many then a 21 year olds? Does ones aging mean automatically they know everything from here on out?


I'm not familiar enough with your posts to have an impression of you outside of what you're posting in this thread, but I'm getting the impression that I was wrong to credit you with an above average degree of intellectual sophistication. I don't understand what has prompted this focus on the age question. You haven't given many examples, and you specifically said you were responding to things said about others, not said about you personally. I think there's plenty of evidence around that most people are not impressed by numbers as much as experience. And most people are impressed by the content of a person's posts. You don't see anyone saying that VC's opinions are less valid because of her age, because she's obviously kind of fucking brilliant. It would be absurd to take her less seriously than one of the many 40 year old twits running about. This is how smart people work. Stop worrying about people who hold obviously stupid positions like "aging means automatically they know everything from here on out." I don't know that such people really exist, but if they do I'm not seeing what effect they are having on you. You just seem to be dancing with a strawman.

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Many people in their 30s and 40s are just starting to deal with the loss of a parent, of dear loved ones, of taking care of elderly parents. Ive been doing as such when I was 15.


And that is sad. Has anyone here suggested that you can't possibly comprehend the situation that you've already experienced?

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Sadly I am simply a little tired of being told or reading often in some times more tactful ways "you dont know anything little girl simply because you have only been alive for so many years".


Who is telling you this? It seems like you feel that you've had a lot of life experience for someone your age and you resent being assumed to have had the average life experience of someone your age. Is this a problem with people who actually get to know you as an individual, or is this just something you're picking up in general on the board? If the former, find better people. If the latter, get over it, it's not about you.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 8:09:49 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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OP: perhaps I get less riled at things like the flaky 19-yo thread because I can see those posters' point-that particular girl is in a fucked-up relationship, and that suggests to me that she's immature, no? People use 'her life is fucked because she's only 19' as a shorthand for 'her life is fucked and that, combined with her age, makes me think that she's probably too immature to be in this relationship'. Is it the most justified shorthand ever? Probably not, but in most cases it really *is* only a shorthand, and I don't think it's worth taking personal offence at.

You mentioned people directly attacking you for your age above-that's different to a general statement. I don't know how I'd react to that, because it tends not to happen to me.

One time I sent a memo to a poster after they mentioned another poster's age (which was a good ten years older than me) in an argument. Their response was something along the lines that however much knowledge a person has now they *will* have more later in life. That's a more positive way of looking at the situation, I reckon.

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 8:32:45 AM   
Lucienne


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

Excuse me while I go bright red for a minute-thankyou, Lucienne :-)



You know I only included "kind of" to deal with your modesty issues. ;)

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RE: BDSM and Ageism - 8/16/2010 8:38:59 AM   
HisBestGirl


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I struggle with threads like this, because I have rarely felt discriminated against on this site. A handful of people have made reference to my age in a negative way, and most of those people were trolls.

I find that if you take other people seriously, and expect to be taken seriously yourself, then you generally get taken seriously.

If anything, I have more problems at real life kink events because I look even younger than I am (or at least I did until I cut my hair short).


I agree with this- I've only ever had one person negatively refer to my age on CM (he thought I was a troll because I was 21 and 'couldn't possibly be interested in him'). In all my other interactions, my age has either been a non-issue or somewhat of an attraction. However, at community events, I'm constantly carded because I look underage (and in Australia, the legal drinking age is 18 so I must look pretty damn young).


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