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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

Did you (like I did) spend 6 years of your life in the US Air Force (4 May 1977 to 11 Apr 1983).  Respectfully Ma'am, I did not sacrifice those six years of life to see the notions of the founders tossed aside.

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ORIGINAL: MistressLavinia

No I didn't spend 6 yrs of my life in the Air Force and I do appreciate the fact you did. I'm not going to sit on this post and tell you what I did lose from the destruction. You message stated 100,000 yrs from now we'll be dead so what? I wont give up the post is : Am I okay with the Mosque near Ground Zero, my answer NO I am not okay. I can have and will have any feeling I want about it, and that's my opinion.
I said there's no disrespect intended, I stated my opinion, I'm not disrespecting you so do you know why some people are still raw? Im raw as hell, I'll be raw until the day I die, and 100,000 years I wont care but now I do, I care very much so, and like I said, wounds for me wont heal. My answer is No to the question posted, and my answer to you was, I will care until I'm dead. I didn't ask what you did, so don't disrespect me by asking me if I was in the Air Force for 6 yrs.

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

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ORIGINAL: MistressLavinia

No I didn't spend 6 yrs of my life in the Air Force and I do appreciate the fact you did. I'm not going to sit on this post and tell you what I did lose from the destruction. You message stated 100,000 yrs from now we'll be dead so what? I wont give up the post is : Am I okay with the Mosque near Ground Zero, my answer NO I am not okay. I can have and will have any feeling I want about it, and that's my opinion.
I said there's no disrespect intended, I stated my opinion, I'm not disrespecting you so do you know why some people are still raw? Im raw as hell, I'll be raw until the day I die, and 100,000 years I wont care but now I do, I care very much so, and like I said, wounds for me wont heal. My answer is No to the question posted, and my answer to you was, I will care until I'm dead. I didn't ask what you did, so don't disrespect me by asking me if I was in the Air Force for 6 yrs.

Again no disrespect intended, I mentioned my own service because of this little oath I swore to on 22 Dec 1976 (I was in "delayed enlistment")

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Now even then I was somewhat the atheist, so to me swearing to god was bullshit, BUT, I sure as hell took the part about supporting and defending said Constitution of the United States rather seriously, still do.  

I do not argue that you have to see it as I do, but I point out my time spent as a way of getting you to see where exactly I come from, the 100,000 year line is to show all of US this is really stupid and petty in the long run.  If it won't matter in 100,000 years why does it matter now....oh yeah silly fucking human emotions.  Would that we were all more like "Spock of Vulcan" and could see beyond our frailties as humans to realize this.


Philosophically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

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ORIGINAL: switch2please

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

Did you (like I did) spend 6 years of your life in the US Air Force (4 May 1977 to 11 Apr 1983).  Respectfully Ma'am, I did not sacrifice those six years of life to see the notions of the founders tossed aside.

Not to get too off-topic but with all due respect, what did you do during those six years? Would the founding fathers have approved?

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ORIGINAL: switch2please

The Westboro Baptist Church was brought up as a parallel; appropriately, I think. They are also devout religious activists. If they opened up a center for good ol' gay-hatin' get-togethers across the street from my apartment, let them. I'm firm enough in my beliefs not to see a group of hateful people with poorly-constructed signs as a threat. I'm also not about to confuse the people at every other Baptist church in the country with those pricks.

This isn't an attempt to subvert the Constitution or the Magna Carta - or if it is, it's a rather poor try.
How exactly would a new mosque in New York City force you to be 'silently, effectively overtaken and overwhelmed into a new alien culture/law/opressive religion'?

I'm against ANY form of totalitarianism, including the suppression of what I don't believe in. It's valid, it's just not my cup of tea - so I don't drink it, but I certainly don't try to force my brew down your throat. I was raised better than that, dammit.

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The Westboro Baptist Church was brought up as a parallel; appropriately, I think. They are also devout religious activists.

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Ive duct taped my fingers so they can't move. I will not respond to this, except you swore on something you don't believe in? I don't want to get in trouble for being a malicious bitch, but how could you swear on something you don't believe in?

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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No. I loathe the idea of putting a mosque near ground zero. I think the people who are building it are assholes.

However.. it's their right to build what they want on their land. I'd rather have them build it, however unwise and distasteful, than stoop to not allowing citizans to build legal buildings on their property.

I'm more pissed that the 9/11 monument has been so fucked up and that ordinances weren't put in place to protect the surrounding area. For crying out loud, we can put rules in place to keep Wal-Marts from being built near historical sites but the governement didn't act quickly enough to put rules in place regarding religious sites near ground zero. Too late now.

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WBC was used as a parallel to Islamic terrorists

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ORIGINAL: switch2please

Of course my laptop battery dies as I'm replying to a cute girl...er, boi... :)

WBC was used as a parallel to Islamic terrorists - practicing Muslims but very extreme, using violence as a means to their goals. Likewise, WBC is a group of practicing Christians who choose to interpret their doctrine to allow hate and verbal abuse, and would likely be more extreme if it were possible without punishment.
Sorry for any confusion. Both are the exception, rather than the rule.