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The children should be charged with elderly abuse and tossed in jail.

You do realize there a set of problems here and nothing is this simplistic.
Children have jobs, many of them full-time, some without excessive time off to care for elderly parents.  This is a social problem.  Those same adult children also have families and children of their own.  They are paying childcare, how do you expect them to also fund elder care?  It is expensive.  I am not excusing their behavior in any way, but I think it is more logical to look at the complete picture.

sorry Katie...the complete picture does not include abandonment. No excuse.

What if this were a child that could not be cared for as opposed to an elderly person? Would you still say it is a societal issue and we should look at the whole picture?

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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The children should be charged with elderly abuse and tossed in jail.

You do realize there a set of problems here and nothing is this simplistic.
Children have jobs, many of them full-time, some without excessive time off to care for elderly parents.  This is a social problem.  Those same adult children also have families and children of their own.  They are paying childcare, how do you expect them to also fund elder care?  It is expensive.  I am not excusing their behavior in any way, but I think it is more logical to look at the complete picture.

sorry Katie...the complete picture does not include abandonment. No excuse.

What if this were a child that could not be cared for as opposed to an elderly person? Would you still say it is a societal issue and we should look at the whole picture?

You really have very little information to go on, the article was not very informative.

Edited to add, just because someone mentions the societal situations that lead to a problem does not mean they are "excusing" something

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  I can't say that I firmly believe adult children are forever tied to their parents, just as parents are not forever tied to their adult children.

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ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox

here kids forgot their mother in the car park before they went off to a trip on a ferry  that trip was meant to be their mothers "treat" btw....

http://policeoracle.com/news/Police-Find-Mother-In-Law-In-Car-Park_23667.html

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This is a fast reply

Both my parents are gone - my mom almost 25 years and my dad for over 10. That said - I don't believe an adult child has any legal obligation to take care of elderly parents. As a matter of fact, when my dad's second wife (not my mom) put him in the nursing home and I started asking questions, the home administration told me to mind my own business. I had no legal rights.

I know I certainly don't feel my children owe me anything. When I can no longer care for myself, I hope I can just disappear somewhere so my kids don't have to watch the decline. I wouldn't wish watching the decline of a loved one on my worst enemy.

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You seem to be making all sorts of assumptions based on NOTHING but a headline

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You seem to be making all sorts of assumptions based on NOTHING but a headline

Na...there was an small article UNDER the headline, Julia...i read that too.

Now...if you read my initial post  i clearly said i have seen it happen, though in a hospital setting as opposed to a hotel.

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elderly people do not lose the right to self determination when they reach a certain age. In fact, they have the right to determine for themselves until someone takes them to court or they hand over that right for themselves.

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You advocate forcing people to take responsibility for their parents? I suppose this is what the conversation comes down to, is who is responsible for the elderly.

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Granted the adult child, short of a court mandate, has no legal responsibility to care for the parent. However, there is a responsibility to ensure the parent is cared for. Leaving them in a hotel room to care for themselves when they have diminished capability, if in fact that is what has happened, is abusive.

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I do not advocate jailing people because they make life choices I do not agree with, including taking their old parent to a hotel or to a hospital and leaving them there. Do I think they are asshole? Well, yeah, I think they are probably assholes.. would I do my mom that way? Oh, hell no. But we can't force legal adults to assume responsibility for other legal adults.

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Granted the adult child, short of a court mandate, has no legal responsibility to care for the parent. However, there is a responsibility to ensure the parent is cared for. Leaving them in a hotel room to care for themselves when they have diminished capability, if in fact that is what has happened, is abusive.

There are a lot of assumptions in this statement... if someone has their mental faculties I do not think you can hold anyone responsible for them, medical conditions, or not...

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Do you know how many elderly people resist their kids trying to take away their independence? It is not something the elderly want to give up easily... and who can blame them

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As far as leaving someone at a hospital, it might be nasty, and something a jerk would do, but it shouldn't be against the law...

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f the elderly person under your care cannot physically or mentally care for themselves it is your responsibility to notify one of the agencies set up for this. The one that comes to mind in Pa is the Pa Dept of Aging.

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i had sole responsibility for both of my parents...both who refused any outside care.

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It is NOT against the law. Not at all. And it is not always nasty...not always done by a jerk. Sometimes it is an act of desperation by the caregiver.

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Granted the adult child, short of a court mandate, has no legal responsibility to care for the parent. However, there is a responsibility to ensure the parent is cared for. Leaving them in a hotel room to care for themselves when they have diminished capability, if in fact that is what has happened, is abusive.

There are a lot of assumptions in this statement... if someone has their mental faculties I do not think you can hold anyone responsible for them, medical conditions, or not...

. If the elderly person under your care cannot physically or mentally care for themselves it is your responsibility to notify one of the agencies set up for this. The one that comes to mind in Pa is the Pa Dept of Aging.

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Do you know how many elderly people resist their kids trying to take away their independence? It is not something the elderly want to give up easily... and who can blame them

i had sole responsibility for both of my parents...both who refused any outside care.

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As far as leaving someone at a hospital, it might be nasty, and something a jerk would do, but it shouldn't be against the law...

It is NOT against the law. Not at all. And it is not always nasty...not always done by a jerk. Sometimes it is an act of desperation by the caregiver.